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Kronos 08-03-2006 09:10 AM

Sounds truly grim - I reckon I'd hate regaeton too (if I ever heard any)

Atica 08-03-2006 09:13 AM

lol almost every one that listens metal hates it. Hey what instrument do you play?

Kronos 08-03-2006 09:14 AM

I started with bass, then 6 string, now I fumble about on the drums - dreaming of being Martin Lopez....


/sighs

Atica 08-03-2006 09:21 AM

Cool, I play guitar, and know some drums but I suck at it.

Kronos 08-03-2006 09:35 AM

I find drumming is more "me" than guitar - I was always goofing up on key changes and such, and my soloing ability was completely non-existant.

Drums only have the key of "thud"

which I like

Shadows 08-03-2006 10:40 AM

Getting back on the topic of Opeth...

Spoonful of Shame 08-03-2006 10:44 AM

I am really interested in how the drumming will sound on their next album. Like Axe is known for his blast beats and stuff so I wonder if more of that will finds its way onto the new album.

Kronos 08-03-2006 10:46 AM

I hope not - the rather jazz/latin influences in ML's drumming helped to make Opeth's unique sound. I don't think loads of common-or-garden blast beat drumming would be a step in the right direction at all

Spoonful of Shame 08-03-2006 10:53 AM

That's the thing though. As far as I know, Axe is noy heavly influenced with jazz or latin music. Therefore I would conclude it just won;t be there anymore.

Btw, I just watched the Grand Conjuration again and I noticed that Gene Hogan from Strapping Young Lad is on the drums in that video. I heard they made the video on tour so I guess it was at a time when Lopez was ill.

Darkness 08-03-2006 11:02 AM

Why would Mikael want him to repeat what Lopez did though? The latin/jazz thing is over now, and it's up to Axe to find something new to do. That's the way I see it, anyway.

Atica 08-03-2006 11:06 AM

I only hope that the new drums sound as good as how Lopez did, no matter if it is a new sound.

Kronos 08-03-2006 11:08 AM

If "new" is blast beats and constant manic double pedalling on everything then I'm predicting that we'll all look back on the the Lopez years with a wistful sigh....

the2stranger 08-03-2006 11:10 AM

I hope Axe will be able to bring the Lopez songs alive the way Lopez himself did.
Subtle and with feeling.
I agree it's up to Axe to find a new style, but I doubt he will top Lopez.
Lopez just had a very good style, although that is just my opinion.

Shadows 08-03-2006 11:10 AM

I don't think blast beats would kill the band at all. They've never done them before so you don't know how they'd turn out.

Darkness 08-03-2006 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I don't think blast beats would kill the band at all. They've never done them before so you don't know how they'd turn out.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I can only see Axe stepping up the metal sections where Lopez didn't. It's the softer parts we should all be wondering about.

the2stranger 08-03-2006 11:13 AM

Blasbeats would kill the emotion and atmosphere in Opeth, of course Mikeal is still main song writer and won't allow Axe to 'ruin' the sound with blastbeats everywhere unless Mikeal wants it.

Kronos 08-03-2006 11:13 AM

Opeth are a blend of heavy and light with a lot of subtlety - I hope that's not lost in the future, 'tis all.

And I think we can imagine how blast beats everywhere will turn out - like blast beats I reckon

Atica 08-03-2006 11:13 AM

I agree with you, Lopez style is amazing, and it would be very hard for Axe to create something better, but who knows... maybe he will give us all a surprise.

Darkness 08-03-2006 11:14 AM

I can see emotions such as anger/sadness be stepped up with some kind of blast beat. In a song like Wreath.

Spoonful of Shame 08-03-2006 11:15 AM

Well look how Lopez started out. He came from Amon Amarth which didn't have any soft moments or anything. Maybe we will be surprised at what Axe can do with regards to the mellow sections.

Kronos 08-03-2006 11:16 AM

Anyway, I'm off to see them in November - so I'll see what the drumming's like then.

He must be pretty good as Opeth have used him for like 5 tours

the2stranger 08-03-2006 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=Darkness]I can see emotions such as anger/sadness be stepped up with some kind of blast beat. In a song like Wreath.[/QUOTE]
True, bit it's not just blasbeats everywhere.
Agression makes that the contrast btetween certain emotion is shown better.
But if there's only heavy stuff, there is no comparison.
And of course, all things should find their balance in the song.
The heavy and the soft parts.

Darkness 08-03-2006 11:19 AM

Well ofcourse there should be balance. If there's any sense left in Mikaels head (as we saw a lack of with GR... :p ) he won't allow blast beats all the time. Only on the most agressive parts, I imagine.

Atica 08-03-2006 11:23 AM

Yeh they will balance all the sounds, as they have been doing it all this years, and create the feelings they made the people feel when listening to their songs.

the2stranger 08-03-2006 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=Darkness]Well ofcourse there should be balance. If there's any sense left in Mikaels head (as we saw a lack of with GR... :p ) he won't allow blast beats all the time. Only on the most agressive parts, I imagine.[/QUOTE]
GR was pretty bad indeed. :(
I still have good hope for them though.

Shadows 08-03-2006 11:27 AM

Ghost Reveries was hardly a bad album. :mad:

the2stranger 08-03-2006 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Ghost Reveries was hardly a bad album. :mad:[/QUOTE]
:mad:

Well, It didn't stand up to any other of their releases and trust me, I'm a big fan :(:(

Kreator2112 08-03-2006 11:31 AM

I'm so tired of talking about Opeth. They're a great band, they have good albums.


[center][size=5]Enough said.[/center][/size]

Shadows 08-03-2006 11:31 AM

I'm a big fan of them too, and GR is near the top of my favorite Opeth albums list.

Spoonful of Shame 08-03-2006 11:31 AM

I actually thought Ghost Reveries was a solid release. Not their best but it has many good songs. In my opinion, Ghost of perdition and Reverie/Harlequin forest are some of their best songs they have ever done. The baying of the hounds, Beneath the mire and are solid songs, especially once they get going. The grand conjuration just blew me away when I saw them live.


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