I remember I gave some stuff into whispering and you can hear them going fu[b][i][/i][/b]k yeah and whooing at the end.

I love Jimmy, I don't know why people dislike it. Pus[font=]h[/font]it is the only song that took a long time for me to grown on.

I've always loved pu[FONT=]shi[/FONT]t, the ambience is just great, and I love the guitar tone throughout the song.

I noticed the crickets at the end of Parabola.....could it be some tie-in to the Holy Gift business? Who knows........

[QUOTE=Otherside]I've always loved pu[FONT=]shi[/FONT]t, the ambience is just great, and I love the guitar tone throughout the song.[/QUOTE]

The riff he plays following the guitar solo makes me have joygasm after joygasm.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]The IP adress that it was created on did prove to be non-affiliated with Tool. Someone on Something Awful forums also admitted to doing it. :-/ What a fag/loser.[/QUOTE]

could you direct me to the post/thread on SA?

Woah, that teleincision.com/music page had an entire NIN live show.

So anyway, Jimmy's a weak track.

Discuss.

Honestly, if it was on Undertow it would still be one of the weaker tracks, as opposed to being the weakest track on Ænima. I actually prefer Message to Harry Manback and Intermission over Jimmy. I just don't see how the song is special at all, it just seems the most bland and unoriginal to me. I don't find it especially "dark" either, Push[i]i[/i]t, Third Eye and Hooker are surely equally as dark? In fact, Push[i]i[/i]t is far darker.

If we're talking instrumentally dark, Third Eye and Hooker have it beat. Lyrically, Push[i]i[/i]t has it beat.

I understand it sounds like a very personal song to Maynard, but I just don't think he projects it very well on that song.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]Woah, that teleincision.com/music page had an entire NIN live show.[/QUOTE]

Elaborate.

[QUOTE=Shadius]So anyway, Jimmy's a weak track.

Discuss.

Honestly, if it was on Undertow it would still be one of the weaker tracks, as opposed to being the weakest track on Ænima. I actually prefer Message to Harry Manback and Intermission over Jimmy. I just don't see how the song is special at all, it just seems the most bland and unoriginal to me. I don't find it especially "dark" either, Push[i]i[/i]t, Third Eye and Hooker are surely equally as dark? In fact, Push[i]i[/i]t is far darker.

If we're talking instrumentally dark, Third Eye and Hooker have it beat. Lyrically, Push[i]i[/i]t has it beat.

I understand it sounds like a very personal song to Maynard, but I just don't think he projects it very well on that song.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I see what you mean. Every band has weak moments though...Its okay. Its not unlistenable. Im just now starting to appreciate the last half of the album like I should though so I dunno...

I listened to Jimmy to see if I understand why most of the people in here dislike it. I must say, I can't really find why someone wouldn't like it. Sure it's not as good as Third Eye or Eulogy, but it's still a good song. I really like the way Maynard sings in this song and how he holds out "home." It seems to mainly come down to opinion. I guess I agree that it isn't one of the better songs, but I wouldn't put it below the "filler" tracks. I like it more than some of the songs on Undertow and Opiate, so it's not all that bad.

[QUOTE=emo=elmow/otheL]Elaborate.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.teleincision.com/music/nin/live_3_23_05/[/url]

It is a good song, but fails in comparison to the others.

As already said, jimmy is just increadibly bland, any other tool song beats it.:)

Meh. Underrated.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]It is a good song, but fails in comparison to the others.[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what i think about the song. Its a good song, but its on a cd where the song isnt on the same plane as the others. The other songs are just too good for it.

I'd say it's because they don't listen to the part about 4 minutes through.

Whenever I play(ed) that cd, I'd listen to it. I think its a good song. But compared to H., Eulogy, 46 & 2 etc. Its just a formuletic, dark sounding rock song

Why would Tool host a bunch of music on a website of theirs? And [i]why[/i] would they have a SOAD cd on there?

I really dont see the need to compare Jimmy to any other song from any other album, do you guys think its lyrically weak or instrumentally weak, or both maybe? Why not compare the song Lateralus to lets say... Part of Me? Both are great songs in their own right wouldnt you say? But when you truly compare them they are vastly different, the complexity of Lateralus out weighs that of Part of me, making it “weaker” in that sense. Now if you just don’t like the song, thats an opinion, since it is my opinion that all Tool songs are perfect.

I think it would fit in better with Undertow, due to the dark shadow it casts, and Undertow, being a dark album,(stfu Moses) it would fit right in. :)

Yeah, you know....

[QUOTE=Moses]Yeah, you know....[/QUOTE]
Agreed.

Oh, he sucked you into his Lateralus=darkness theory too, Kage? Weren't [I]you[/I] the guy telling me that even though the music may not sound dark and angsty, Wilson's lyrics make Porcupine Tree's songs very forboding and dark? :fistshake:

oh, and btw, those 2 posts made me laugh, just because it kind of shows the really community of this thread. :)

First time we talked about it Kage was the one to agree with me.

[QUOTE=Moses]First time we talked about it Kage was the one to agree with me.[/QUOTE]
Yep, yep yep.

I always thought that about Lateralus. And, yes to the PT thing as well.

Yeah, I think I remember that, now that you mention it. I knew there was one person who thought the same, but I wasn't sure who. :shrug: Meh, I guess you're probably right from a musical standpoint, but that's only half of the beauty of Tool. For the most part, Lateralus is supposed to be an album of inspiration. You know how Tool always chooses the song that best encompasses the entire album, and they name that song after the album?(or vice versa, not sure) If you consider that fact, and then consider what the song Lateralus is about, ("Spiral out, Keep going" great words of inspiration) I think it then becomes apparent that the album was almost supposed to create an almost uplifting feeling.

I agree with you in that aspect. Lyrically, I know what you mean, and the instrumentals as well can be quite uplifting. But to me it's dark in a different sort of way. Like, this atmosphere that runs underneat all the songs on the album add an almost ominous tone to it, which almost builds up until the final climax of the title track. That's kind of the way I see the album, anyway.

Oh, and Reflection is about as haunting as you can get. :p

I beg to differ....

One word


Rachmaninoff

[QUOTE=Moses]I beg to differ....

One word


Rachmaninoff[/QUOTE]
One word

owned. :upset: