[QUOTE=kattunlover69;16256244]he basically wrote a whole paragraph to take a crack at the circus riff...lol im done now[/QUOTE]

I love that riff... :(

Yeah, that wasn't very well done at all, but there is one point I sort of agree with...it does almost seem like the album gives off an air of pretentiousness. It's the same feeling I get when I listen to Be by Pain of Salvation, albeit Fortress is a lot better.

I dont see how there's at all a sense of pretentiousness. It's ambitious, lyrically, but there's a lot of schmaltz and cheese thrown in to balance it out.

I don't know how to explain it. The songwriting has a little bit of pretentiousness though...

It's not pretentious at all... I don't know what you are talking about.

I see what he's saying I just don't think ambition =/= pretentious

Anything that's not post-rock can't be pretentious.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16260256]there's a lot of schmaltz and cheese thrown in to balance it out.[/QUOTE]

Case in point: "DUN DUNDUNDUN *Meow* DUN *Murrh*"

couldnt find a Fall of troy thread

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWnFxiepk2k[/url]


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsIT-t-xgeA[/url]

the riff at 2:00 in limb from limb is the greatest riff ever writtten

there's no riff starting at 2:00 in limb from limb

do you mean that the end of the riff theyre playing there si great or something

[QUOTE=kattunlover69;16270055]couldnt find a Fall of troy thread

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWnFxiepk2k[/url]


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsIT-t-xgeA[/url][/QUOTE]

The first video is probably the most entertaining thing I've seen all week.

Edit: Does anyone else get a feeling that Rody has a thing redheads?

I <3 protest the hero.

Fortress took me a little while to get into just because it's all over the place. They pack more music in one song than most do in an entire album. It's also a bit less catchy or sing-along-able as a result (compared to Kezia)

I think I prefer Kezia, but I still can't get enough Fortress. I've listened to Bone Marrow 100+ times according to my mp3 player.

[QUOTE=Pete;16270689]there's no riff starting at 2:00 in limb from limb

do you mean that the end of the riff theyre playing there si great or something[/QUOTE]

He's talking about the chromatic breakdown behind the cookie monster vocals.

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace;16271451]I <3 protest the hero.

Fortress took me a little while to get into just because it's all over the place. They pack more music in one song than most do in an entire album. It's also a bit less catchy or sing-along-able as a result (compared to Kezia)

I think I prefer Kezia, but I still can't get enough Fortress. I've listened to Bone Marrow 100+ times according to my mp3 player.[/QUOTE]

I've listened to Sequioa Throne like over 300 times.

That's awesome because it's a competition you know!

I wasn't competing... I was just stating a fact. You know, you don't ALWAYS have to try to make people feel stupid.

It's so easy to do.

Why do you have to be such a stupidface!?

new video is premiering on much right now

They performed. Rody's voice is absolutely shot, lol.

Which song is the video for?

Sequoia Throne

[url]http://axs.muchmusic.com/?fr_search=%22Protest%20The%20Hero%22[/url]

It's there. If you're Canadian you can watch it.

Performance was Bloodmeat.

I'm getting a heavy Mike Patton influence from Rody in the new vid. also gnarly stache.

*weak stache. Mine is at least 20 times bigger. He's a Patton fan for sure though.

horrible quality

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIYylN8fUho[/url]

Rody's black lungs must have loved being chased through those (lecture) halls.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16273015]*weak stache. Mine is at least 20 times bigger. He's a Patton fan for sure though.[/QUOTE]

That's awesome because it's a competition you know!

It is with moustaches. Always. Those guys (well, Tim) take facial hair seriously.

Haha, I was being serious in that case.

Tim is always going to win. I think the only guys who can top him are the guys from ZZ Top and this guy:

[url]http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-05/windmill-beard.jpg[/url]

nvm

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16274831]It is with moustaches. Always. Those guys (well, Tim) take facial hair seriously.[/QUOTE]

Facial hair is very important, especially when you need to create the illusion of jawline.

so how is moe like irl.....to me he seems like a stoner guy



also i think the video is suppose to follow the "to stalk us like a predator" line and rody is suppose to be the supposed ones to come and kill them...i dunno just sumthing i thought up the past 1 min

not really it's just supposed to be rody chasing and killing them, there isn't that much thought to it.

also, moe is a stoner. nice guy but kind of creepy.

they all seemed like stoners when i got baked with them after a show in Halifax a few months ago :p

ps this album is so good it doesn't get old

Oh my god, im watching the latest pth performance at much, this is embarrassing. He never sounded this bad even in shitty live kezia performances before they were 18. So bad! Complete with lackluster backup vocals by tim trying to bail him out in sequoia throne. Now its bloodmeat, his voice is popping/cracking when he tries to shriek, he's murmuring the soft parts-thats not even singing! When he's performing his bellowing parts his voice 'falls out.' He sounds like (gasp)M. Shadows with blown vocal cords who cant reach those notes.

Hmm the interview does explain that he does indeed have blown vocal cords from this last tour. I had a buddy at work tell me he saw this live on tv and said it was bad--i had previously given him the instrumental album so i was just saying the usual 'yeah his voice is pretty polarizing'... but i didn't know what he saw was this terrible; so i think this was his first time hearing them with vocals. What a bad day for the label trying to garner new fans.

Well on the live videos I saw, his vocals were always pretty crap

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ovh35HHi8A[/url]

he smokes during the performance.....wuheva

lol @ people throwing stuff at him


another matt murphy interview

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9NLXVJ8Mvs[/url]

While some people have a distaste for his voice and he sometimes struggles live, the performance on much music is definitely a big aberration. His voice was ****ED - during the interview, he barely spoke, and when he did he sounded like a zombie.

I've seen these guys play many times and in general Rody has got better and better at singing live. This was just a case of catching them right at the end of a tour that had few offdates. He probably shouldn't have sang at all with his voice in that condition, I guess. It might have been interesting if they'd just performed instrumentally - didn't they have to do that for a show or two when they toured the States last year or the year before?