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SlaveToTheGrind 04-09-2004 08:02 AM

it's like master of puppets, it has a few good songs..

RideTheSpiral 04-09-2004 08:08 AM

Fair enough. Maybe I'll pick it up if i see it lying in the gutter. Maybe not.

superpeer 04-09-2004 08:09 AM

Rtl > Ajfa > Mop.

SlaveToTheGrind 04-09-2004 08:17 AM

rtl <> mop <> ajfa

superpeer 04-09-2004 08:56 AM

What does that mean?

SlaveToTheGrind 04-09-2004 09:10 AM

that they are equal..

Burdcheese 04-09-2004 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=SlaveToTheGrind]that they are equal..[/QUOTE]

Couldn't you just use "=" ?

Anyway:
AJFA>MOP>RTL

SlaveToTheGrind 04-09-2004 09:19 AM

no. then it would be to obviously

superpeer 04-09-2004 09:58 AM

I see.

They aren't equal though.

speedhitler 04-09-2004 10:08 AM

No, like this
IF criterion="pop" then KEM<RTL<MOP
IF criterion="thrash" then KEM>RTL>MOP

superpeer 04-09-2004 10:09 AM

If we're talking about greatness of album : RTL > all.

DimebagDarrell 04-09-2004 10:15 AM

MoP RTL AJFA

dougefresh 04-09-2004 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=speedhitler]No, like this
IF criterion="pop" then KEM<RTL<MOP
IF criterion="thrash" then KEM>RTL>MOP[/QUOTE]

Uh.. are you saying MoP and RtL is pop? [SIZE=4]YOUR OPINION SUCKS[/SIZE]

RtL owns all

GothicGoddess 04-09-2004 11:47 AM

Kill em all and Ride the Lightning best in my opinion.

superpeer 04-09-2004 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=dougefresh]Uh.. are you saying MoP and RtL is pop? [SIZE=4]YOUR OPINION SUCKS[/SIZE]

RtL owns all[/QUOTE]

/me agrees with Doug.

speedhitler 04-09-2004 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=dougefresh]Uh.. are you saying MoP and RtL is pop? [SIZE=4]YOUR OPINION SUCKS[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

I am clearly not. I am looking at it from that viewpoint, you sh1t-for-brains. And MOP is more worth in a pop-viewpoint than in a thrash-viewpoint, even though it is much closer to thrash. Your sense of logic is apparently that of a 12-year old.

Metallicafreak_28 04-09-2004 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=speedhitler]I am clearly not. I am looking at it from that viewpoint, you sh1t-for-brains. And MOP is more worth in a pop-viewpoint than in a thrash-viewpoint, even though it is much closer to thrash. Your sense of logic is apparently that of a 12-year old.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I'm not going to critizice you but please tell me how do you think MoP can be more pop than thrash metal????? PLEASE explain how you came to conclusion???

speedhitler 04-09-2004 12:43 PM

[QUOTE=Metallicafreak_28]Dude, I'm not going to critizice you but please tell me how do you think MoP can be more pop than thrash metal????? PLEASE explain how you came to conclusion???[/QUOTE]
No, I think YOU should please explain WHERE I said MoP is "more pop than thrash metal".

There is nothing which prevents me from taking a Slayer or Cannibal Corpse album, and looking at it from a modern rock or pop viewpoint. Or why not compare Cradle of Filth and Red Hot Chili Peppers from a reggae viewpoint, and come to the conclusion that CoF<RHCP? Why the hell not?

superpeer 04-09-2004 01:27 PM

What he means that it is more accessible to the mainstream public. I think?

soundcheckxx 04-09-2004 01:31 PM

MOP isnt as thrash as RTL
,,but its straight up metal!!!

ManWithDaPlan 04-09-2004 01:54 PM

I think
RTL > AJFA = MOP

dougefresh 04-09-2004 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=speedhitler]I am clearly not. I am looking at it from that viewpoint, you sh1t-for-brains. And MOP is more worth in a pop-viewpoint than in a thrash-viewpoint, even though it is much closer to thrash. Your sense of logic is apparently that of a 12-year old.[/QUOTE]

Ok. I'm not going to flame you on the count of you must be highly intoxicated and be buzzed on some foreign drug.

speedhitler 04-09-2004 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=dougefresh]Ok. I'm not going to flame you on the count of you must be highly intoxicated and be buzzed on some foreign drug.[/QUOTE]
And so what if I am, when you're unable to even present a counter-argument?

Zmev 04-09-2004 04:30 PM

Kea>ajfa>mop>rtl

Squirrel 04-09-2004 04:30 PM

[QUOTE]And so what if I am, when you're unable to even present a counter-argument?[/QUOTE]

I think Dougefresh, as one of the better Mxicans, would rather stay out of arguments about such simple things.

dougefresh 04-09-2004 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=speedhitler]And so what if I am, when you're unable to even present a counter-argument?[/QUOTE]

If you are, it will be a total waste of time to pwn a n00b then find out the next day he forgets the lesson. Also, your "opinion" that MoP is pop or whatever is bull. It is no where near pop, and would never be linked to pop in any way. I don't argue over stupid things

gg

The-Greaper 04-09-2004 05:20 PM

hey re-re what makes ur thread so special? what? r u like a godlike person? i think not, so therefor ur Metallica thread is not the offical! ,,l,,

BuddyBigsby 04-09-2004 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=The-Greaper]hey re-re what makes ur thread so special? what? r u like a godlike person? i think not, so therefor ur Metallica thread is not the offical! ,,l,,[/QUOTE]

God really is a miraculous being. Look how much idiot he can cram into one person. It's amazing, really.

dougefresh 04-09-2004 05:23 PM

If by re-re, you mean the threadstarter, his post was a great one because it minimized the Metallica threads to almost none. And typin liek dis aint a gud ideer becuz u'll g3t flamed!!11!oneone!!11

speedhitler 04-09-2004 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=dougefresh]Also, your "opinion" that MoP is pop or whatever is bull. It is no where near pop, and would never be linked to pop in any way.[/QUOTE]
a) My argument was never nowhere near that which you say.
b) Talking to you is a waste of time, since you fail to understand it was nowhere near that.
c) Failing to understand such a simple argument proves that logic is not your strong side, and you should stop using your brain since you're not very good at it.
d) My argument was not about opinions or "opinions" as you like to call it
e) The importance of the statement was not greatly signifant, therefore it's not worth the massive job required to articulate it for a retard
f) You're obviously a retard, therefore I shall not bother

ckyfreak98 04-09-2004 07:09 PM

metallica
 
metallica is the most commercialized bands that i no of, they are also the worst. this band can be explained in three words. they ****in suck.
listen to the best band alive CKY
the best ****in band in the world keep it real fags

superpeer 04-09-2004 07:27 PM

Yes, because CKY isn't commercial at all.

dougefresh 04-09-2004 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=speedhitler]No, like this
IF criterion="pop" then KEM<RTL<MOP
IF criterion="thrash" then KEM>RTL>MOP[/QUOTE]

Just tell me what you mean by this, so I can understand.

superpeer 04-09-2004 07:51 PM

I think what he means is that MOP is more accessible to the mainstream public.

RideTheSpiral 04-09-2004 08:03 PM

Yeah. Which is true. Kinda.

superpeer 04-09-2004 08:10 PM

I guess.

RideTheSpiral 04-09-2004 08:25 PM

Well it has the most variety.

dougefresh 04-09-2004 09:57 PM

It's just as accesible as Ride the Lightning.. It's at the same stores as RtL, right next to MoP. Whatever though, not a big deal

Metallicafreak_28 04-09-2004 10:25 PM

[QUOTE=speedhitler]a) My argument was never nowhere near that which you say.
b) Talking to you is a waste of time, since you fail to understand it was nowhere near that.
c) Failing to understand such a simple argument proves that logic is not your strong side, and you should stop using your brain since you're not very good at it.
d) My argument was not about opinions or "opinions" as you like to call it
e) The importance of the statement was not greatly signifant, therefore it's not worth the massive job required to articulate it for a retard
f) You're obviously a retard, therefore I shall not bother[/QUOTE]

Dude, if u think we are such idiots why don't you GRACE us with an explanation of what you mean because we are clearly too stupid for you. Maybe if you explained what you are trying to say instead of us trying to guess, it would help us all end this argument.

speedhitler 04-10-2004 06:03 AM

[QUOTE=Metallicafreak_28]Dude, if u think we are such idiots why don't you GRACE us with an explanation of what you mean because we are clearly too stupid for you. Maybe if you explained what you are trying to say instead of us trying to guess, it would help us all end this argument.[/QUOTE]
Simple thing, complicated explanation. Now why is MoP sometimes considered to be the greatest metal album ever made? Simply, because the mainstream music people thinks so. And MoP is a hell lot more accessible for the mainstream than any pure thrash album, simply because it's less than thrash and has a more modern sound and more hooks, as in pop. Thus, the pop and modern rock listeners would consider MoP to be the greatest thrash album ever made, although they don't really like thrash.

Thrashers often don't consider MoP to be all that special. As a pure thrash album, Kill Em All, or for example almost any Overkill or Exodus album is better from a thrash viewpoint, simply because it's more thrash and MORE WORTH AS THRASH. Exodus' Bonded by Blood is one of the thrashiest albums ever made, but it's TOO THRASHY for the mainstream to consider it worth anything.


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