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kevbud187 02-13-2006 12:51 AM

hey long time no posting in S&L

sup all? SubbtleDagger remember me?

DeadReligion 02-13-2006 01:07 AM

I remember you.

TojesDolan 02-13-2006 06:41 PM

I don't know but the guy seemed pretty seros.

BassMan182 02-13-2006 06:58 PM

Idea
 
i wasn't gonna advertise in a new topic, but i've come up with an idea (of sorts)...

i am currently designing a community website where users can sign up and post their lyrics for others to see and comment upon. i'm also going to include a section for writers profiles and maybe even venture into other area (lyric competitions etc).

i know many people on here (including myself) are very passionate writers, and wondered how much interest a site like this would recieve. basically - think musicianforums, but more customised/personalised.

drumass04 02-14-2006 03:48 PM

Hey,

Any chance of a Mod clearing up my thread? Some new guy's hijacked it big-time.
Cheers :thumb:

Hope everyone's OK, still the infestation of noobism is dragging me down, causing me not to crit as much as I would've liked. if only they'd listen.

Tim

TojesDolan 02-14-2006 06:56 PM

Haha, infestation. That happened once. Not to me of course, some random guy.

On a related note, the site idea above is basically S&L minus a lot of people, and I suppose it's good, but not my thing.

TojesDolan 02-16-2006 01:15 PM

And yes, I was was telling you tojes, your conversation just murdered the thread.

No one's in the mood to discuss something? :(

OK... so... let's all talk about... hmm... Let's talk about how our writing has evolved through the years.

Nightvision 02-17-2006 04:29 AM

Mine has really, really, really come on. I don't consider myself an excellent writer by any standards, but in comparison to when I started (my third post here was in S&L) I'm like a completely different writer.

I'll edit in a few songs I've posted over the 21 months I've been here in a second.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178709"]Home[/URL] - My first song on here (yes, I edited it today to clean up an annoying habit of lengthening the vowels where I wanted to hold a note (ie: aaaaaaaaaand nooooow) - it's not as awful as I remember, but it's still n00bilicious.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266408"]Sunup Over Main Street[/URL] - Posted November '04, I'd been experimenting with imagery, and decided to use it as part of a set of six inter-linked songs I was writing. This was the third, and was probably the best of the lot, with me going too far in the later songs to the point of being downright pretentious. :upset:

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320671"]Fatale[/URL] - This was probably the point where I was writing my most imagery-heavy stuff (March '05). It's coincidentally some of the writing I'm least fond of.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337765"]1200cc Romance[/URL] - My first (and probably only) foray into the murky depths of poetry. Once again, overly heavy on imagery. I didn't write again for 2 months after this. :-\

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=428674"]Cocente[/URL] - One of my most recent pieces (Jan '06), this is a return to the sort of writing I enjoy the most - plenty of imagery, but remaining accessible (or at least, that's what I aim for).

Reading the first and last pieces, it's quite scary how much my writing style has changed in such a short time, particularly when it's been influenced more or less entirely by what I've read on this forum, be it critiques or others' songs.

Nice topic, Tojes :)

drumass04 02-17-2006 12:56 PM

That's certainly quite a large difference!!

Since I started writing properly a few months ago my writing hasn't really changed hugely, though I'm still experimenting with my writing.

Since I started writing my style has changed dramatically, from the noob like cliched love songs to what I think is a mature style of poetry.

Timmy P

deathscreamingsheep 02-17-2006 01:28 PM

All I can really say is that I've changed a lot.

Shadow Puppets (my first song that I put music to):
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302608"]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302608[/URL]

The Emerald Man (I begin to improve- kinda)
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332151"]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332151[/URL]

Tired After Seven Years (a change of style)
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433916"]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433916[/URL]

Two Recent ones:
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441131"]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441131[/URL]
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438249"]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438249[/URL]

And now I'm attempting another different style, following a more strict rhyme scheme and metre.

DeadReligion 02-17-2006 01:57 PM

Heh, so have I. I mean, for those who remember my first stuff...It's amazing that the same person who wrote "Misshapen Duality" wrote "Die, Oil Sucker, Die". Lol.

TojesDolan 02-17-2006 02:37 PM

OK, I'll give mine a try. I thought this could be made a thread, but As long as it keeps this thread going.... :)

My early writing was... very basic. And usually dealing with my interpersonal relationship, moresoever a certain girl I loved (And I still care for...) back in the day. However, as pure as all that was, my writing was... meh. Pretty meh. It was never posted, so I'll add it here:
[B]
FIRST ATTEMPT: [/B]

[I]Lost and freezing
Convinced of nothing
seeking for answers that
never existed at all.

Breathing,
Losing all chances of warmth
In the gears of wise
Clockwork hearts

Burning, Crushed
inside, broke apart,
and just fading away...[/I]

Ugh, the angst. Now, check this other piece, which was angst^5. All the notations are as I wrote them:

[B]ANGST[/B]

[I]1 2 3 go
why! survive! death isn't bad at all
malformation? Disintegration?
Anyway I was feeling down tonight

So turn of the lights, turn on the sound
and go..... away.
Turn out the sound, turn the light back on
and stay............ right here...

aloooooooooooooone....
Panic and screaming your heart away
Your throat just slashed off
the winds of slamming fire
against the wall, your flesh
Resisting to come on to us...

And now, I'm gone. My spirit feels crushed
And my knees just hurt us all...
[/I]

Agh. It even hurts when read as retreospective. :(

I have plenty more, I suppose, but it's waaaaaay too long and unnecesary to post. It's basically an extension of all you've read so far.

Then, the posts came on. I started with a rambly poem, and then an angsty, pointless poem:

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322377"]Moody song #3 or something[/URL]
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355907"]Sea's Den[/URL]

that was a word game. I was still a bit confused over what I wanted and what I was meaning... wow. Looking back I was waaay angry.

The first signal of semi-good writing was [URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357881"]A note in the mist[/URL], which was more thoroughly thought, and I guess I kinda left myself less lose. Then I started using more vocabulary, and it's all been downhill from there.

HIGHLIGHTS:

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386606"]It's the shadows[/URL]
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394040"]Gemini sister[/URL]
[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405412"]Ticks and soliloquies[/URL]

I guess that's about it.

RunAmokRampant 02-18-2006 04:05 AM

My first post was an LC entry about Butter Scotch Fingers cheating on each other lol. They're a type of biscuit if you guys don't know what they are. Well more less that's what it sounded like. That was like in challenge 78 and I've only missed 4 or 5 challenges since then. Wow that's like 20 challenges, quite a milestone for me anyway.

Oh yes by the way, if anyone's bored, they can give me an in depth crit if they want to. PLease, somebody?

Nightvision 02-18-2006 04:16 AM

I'm currently posting in the pit, but if it slows down in there I'll see if I can't send a few words your way. Linkage?

deathscreamingsheep 02-18-2006 05:20 AM

TojesDoLan: to be frank your first attempt is probably better than a lot of people's here.

RunAmokRampant 02-19-2006 03:55 AM

[QUOTE=Jason101]I'm currently posting in the pit, but if it slows down in there I'll see if I can't send a few words your way. Linkage?[/QUOTE]

It's in the in depth crit thread.

metaliq 02-20-2006 06:29 PM

All I can say is... I still suck.
Compare:

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160996"]Shadows In The Dark[/URL] --- I forgot I even wrote this. Pretty bad.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161127"]Fornever Euphoria[/URL] --- Pretty much awful. I dont remember writing this either! Hah. Well, I do... but I forgot about it.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223537"]Silence Or Something[/URL] --- First semi decent song.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259124"]Dear You[/URL] --- I guess my favorite? I turned this into an actual song with my old band.

[URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425388"]Some Koan[/URL] --- Latest complete set of lyrics.

Yeahhh. Not much improvement.

Shucks.

TojesDolan 02-20-2006 06:46 PM

Oh no, not at all.

I think you're among the better songwriters around.

I mean. The regs. You know what I mean.

Sade 02-20-2006 07:42 PM

Community thread, suppose I should read what this is about?

Nah, better off this way.

metaliq 02-20-2006 07:47 PM

Hmph. Thanks. :)

Maybe your words of encouragement will bring to write something new sometime. Hmmph.

TojesDolan 02-20-2006 08:06 PM

I have two things to write in mind at the moment.

The first one, which is only a bare-bones text, code-named "Lady Sue" will be about how fu[size=2]c[/size]king horrible it is to be alone in this world. I mean, sexually, fornicationally alone in this world I am, to be precise.

The other one is about this girl... but she happens to be a big time slut. Problem is, I haven't gotten a chance to... ehem... intercourse or interact in any form with her because of circumstances... including me being too odd.

So there's a lot of projects in hand. And a bunch of pretty good one-liners.

And Sade, yeah come here and talk to us. We don't do any harm.

metaliq 02-20-2006 08:08 PM

Hmm. Interesting project.

I decided to write one tonight based off of your encouragement.

The song has nothing to do with you or anything relating to you... but it conjured up because of you. :)

Expect it soon?

metaliq 02-20-2006 08:22 PM

Hmm. Done! It seems that I wrote a song in 30 minutes from mere encouragement.

I am listening to Michael Buble (with a tilde over the e).

I like him. Good words, although most arent his. He still has a great Sinatra-like voice.

Sade 02-20-2006 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]I have two things to write in mind at the moment.

The first one, which is only a bare-bones text, code-named "Lady Sue" will be about how fu[size=2]c[/size]king horrible it is to be alone in this world. I mean, sexually, fornicationally alone in this world I am, to be precise.

The other one is about this girl... but she happens to be a big time slut. Problem is, I haven't gotten a chance to... ehem... intercourse or interact in any form with her because of circumstances... including me being too odd.

So there's a lot of projects in hand. And a bunch of pretty good one-liners.

And Sade, yeah come here and talk to us. We don't do any harm.[/QUOTE]

It sucks, because everybody I used to know here is gone.

It's like being the new kid at school, you know? Only, it's elementary school, you're 39, and it's the same school you went to when you were in 5th grade.

Sade 02-20-2006 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=metaliq]Hmm. Done! It seems that I wrote a song in 30 minutes from mere encouragement.

I am listening to Michael Buble (with a tilde over the e).

I like him. Good words, although most arent his. He still has a great Sinatra-like voice.[/QUOTE]

Just hit you with some tough critique. Har har, I dig your work! Expect more from you PRONTO!

TojesDolan 02-20-2006 08:43 PM

Oh no dear... We are technically the new guys around. Do you remember Sloth?

Well. He's nice. I suppose it all comes along eventually.

On a related note, I'll go check metaliq's attempt, to avoid sadnessness and stuff.

Sade 02-20-2006 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Oh no dear... We are technically the new guys around. Do you remember Sloth?

Well. He's nice. I suppose it all comes along eventually.

On a related note, I'll go check metaliq's attempt, to avoid sadnessness and stuff.[/QUOTE]

The name rings a bell, yeah.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 02-20-2006 08:55 PM

I'm a ghost... boo.

Sade 02-20-2006 08:57 PM

Hey, one of the only people I remember!

What's up, APS?

A_Perfect_Sonnet 02-20-2006 09:02 PM

Not much, I haven't been writing at all so I've had no reason to be here.

Yourself?

Sade 02-20-2006 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=A_Perfect_Sonnet]Not much, I haven't been writing at all so I've had no reason to be here.

Yourself?[/QUOTE]

Same. Only recently have I started again.

Hurry, go critique one of my recent pieces, for old time's sake! "Swallow."

Gogogog.

TojesDolan 02-20-2006 09:32 PM

You can type the names you kind of remember so we can whine over how much the times have changed.

Sade 02-20-2006 09:51 PM

Man, I don't even remember. It's literally been a year, I think. I can barely remember what I had for breakfast...

I remember it being alot faster moving than it is now. There was alot more "depth" to it back then.

metaliq 02-20-2006 09:57 PM

Thanks for the crit Sade. :)

I am on the phone with my girlfriend right now so I cant really crit yours at this moment, but hopefully I will get to it tonight.

A year ago... it was crazy better.

Sade 02-20-2006 09:59 PM

It really was. There were people on here that knew more about me than my own mother.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 02-20-2006 09:59 PM

Oh look at Ty, dropping "my girlfriend" in there to try and impress us.

Sigur Ros's "Takk..." is a brilliant album. Accept it.

Sade 02-20-2006 10:01 PM

It's all about Angel Dust by Faith No More.

metaliq 02-20-2006 10:33 PM

:(

How'd it work Ben?

Sade 02-20-2006 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=metaliq]:(

How'd it work Ben?[/QUOTE]

Well s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it dude, I was impressed.

++2 testosterone points!

metaliq 02-20-2006 11:27 PM

Man, I hope I can cash in all these points I have been collecting all my life for something cool.

I am hoping for a Power Rangers lunch box or a mutlicolored slinky.

Yes... Someday...

Oh, Sade - it looks as if tonight has been escaping quite quickly. I fell asleep watching the long jump on the olympics and I have to wake up for work. Stupid work.

I cant wait till get I my degree in college. I am thinking about becoming an English teacher... but I need to learn the language a lot more if I plan on it. :)

School is cool.


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