^^^

I read, in the tool faq, which can be trusted, I think


that it is maynard squeesing his cat.

how do do speed it up?
do you have profesionel equipment at home?

o, and has anyone ever listened to lateralus (album) at a 20 bit cd-player?, it should contain hidden sounds and all kinds of weird things

i had heard from my friend that it was maynard squeezing his cat, but i dont know about this. and yeah, i used soundforge 6 to speed it up. i have experimented with the pitch modulation, and it does support the theory that it is dry heaves, as it sounds like a woman groaning and a man heaving :naughty: (not what ure thinkin) but it is definitely a weird track

if anyone has any tips on deciphering mantra, then it would be much appreciated :D

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hey, I had a question for any fans of Tool that play guitar (AdamjonesisGod particularly): what do you find attractive about Adam Jones' style? Drummers and bassists obviously have alot to look for, as alot of the songs are heavily geared towards those instruments, but most of Jones' playing isn't especially technical, aside from the rhythmic aspects obviously. I mean, there aren't any huge arpeggio million note Petrucci/Romeo style solos and crazy leads. So, what are Adam's strengths as a player, and what are good examples?[/QUOTE]

To me, Adams strenghts lie in the range of tones he can produce. Some people may say that anyone can create a tone like that, but Adam consitnetly produces ones that fit the feel of a song, or set a good template for the foundations of a song.

As for skill, the one thing that impresses me the most about Adam is the way he can carelessly tremelo pick, then tremelo with pinch harmonics all at once. Not many guitarists can do such a thing. And I ignore the critics of the drop D tuning, since half the chords that he uses are only possible to play in D, and produce unique styles.

Also, i love the guys stage performance. he's not one of those guitarists who jumps around, plays behind his head, etc. He just stays there and flows with the music, a style I adopted when playing a while ago. And he very rarely messes up due to this


examples of his best playing - (solos) Lateralus, Eulogy, Push[I]i[/I]t (live)
ANd of course, Triad best shows off his unique feedback manipulation

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hey, I had a question for any fans of Tool that play guitar (AdamjonesisGod particularly): what do you find attractive about Adam Jones' style? Drummers and bassists obviously have alot to look for, as alot of the songs are heavily geared towards those instruments, but most of Jones' playing isn't especially technical, aside from the rhythmic aspects obviously. I mean, there aren't any huge arpeggio million note Petrucci/Romeo style solos and crazy leads. So, what are Adam's strengths as a player, and what are good examples?[/QUOTE]

That's actually the best part, he doesn't have to be f**king randy rhodes to play a good song. he takes a cool riff, breaks it down to "the molecular level" and just add's different aspects until HE is happy with it. and every time it comes out beautifily. you may not know this but difficultly doesn't make a good song. how it sounds with jc and danny is whats important.

forgot, forty six and two is an excellent example. he uses the intro riff, and turns that subtle riff into the chorus, the solo thingy where he uses pinch harmonics on different parts of the strings. a perfect example of one riff broken down and built up to create something beautiful.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]To me, Adams strenghts lie in the range of tones he can produce. Some people may say that anyone can create a tone like that, but Adam consitnetly produces ones that fit the feel of a song, or set a good template for the foundations of a song.

As for skill, the one thing that impresses me the most about Adam is the way he can carelessly tremelo pick, then tremelo with pinch harmonics all at once. Not many guitarists can do such a thing. And I ignore the critics of the drop D tuning, since half the chords that he uses are only possible to play in D, and produce unique styles.

Also, i love the guys stage performance. he's not one of those guitarists who jumps around, plays behind his head, etc. He just stays there and flows with the music, a style I adopted when playing a while ago. And he very rarely messes up due to this


examples of his best playing - (solos) Lateralus, Eulogy, Push[I]i[/I]t (live)
ANd of course, Triad best shows off his unique feedback manipulation[/QUOTE]

I agree. I like how he doesn't run around and stuff. It makes him a unique guitarist. His sound is very unique and his tone is incredible. And let's not forget about 4 Degrees, kick as.s solo in that song.

I,ve just listened to faaip de oiad. I don't realy know what to think about this track so i'd like to have your opinions about it. Thanks

Like others have said, Adam is extremely unique rhythmicly and I love the way he constructs songs out of his riffs, streaming different ideas together seamlessly to make these epic songs. Also, he's able to create weird tones and atmospheres, and his solos are so unique, that they don't need to be technical.

[QUOTE=Quebec]I,ve just listened to faaip de oiad. I don't realy know what to think about this track so i'd like to have your opinions about it. Thanks[/QUOTE]

Its a snippet from a call in to a radio station a while back, by a man claiming to be a former Area 51 employee (you can find then 'lyrics' at most tool sites)

It was later dismissed by the caller as a hoax, but the interesting part was that the end of the track is when the radio station went down, as well as several others across the state. So maybe there was something else afoot there.....

the 'music' in the background is tool created of course

[QUOTE=Quebec]I,ve just listened to faaip de oiad. I don't realy know what to think about this track so i'd like to have your opinions about it. Thanks[/QUOTE]

pretty much everything AJIG said, but also, if you follow the Lateralus and the Quabala theory, it turns out that it is the "Voice Of God at the end of the journey" but, the caller said it was a hoax, so what does that imply about god? very intresting stuff, more can be learned at [url]www.toolpantheon.com[/url], ok later

i like adams style because it is heavy on rhythm and not so flashy, i would much rather listen to a guitarist who stands there and does his thing, then runs around and feels the need to show off and improvise, because, i suck at lead, i can play almost (keyword almost) anything that Adam does, thats my schpeal, ok later, again

I like adam because his stuff doesn't stick out, it supports maynards lines and re-inforces them. But if you wanna listen to adam you can still find stuff to listen to...if it makes any sense...

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hey, I had a question for any fans of Tool that play guitar (AdamjonesisGod particularly): what do you find attractive about Adam Jones' style? Drummers and bassists obviously have alot to look for, as alot of the songs are heavily geared towards those instruments, but most of Jones' playing isn't especially technical, aside from the rhythmic aspects obviously. I mean, there aren't any huge arpeggio million note Petrucci/Romeo style solos and crazy leads. So, what are Adam's strengths as a player, and what are good examples?[/QUOTE]


The rhythmic playing is my favorite part. He also is very good at writing simple yet effective riffs (the entirety of Lateralus (song and album)). Then he uses interesting effects and ways to play. He's creative without being mindblowing.

The song Lateralus is probably the best show of how he plays. The intro riff is perfect, the rhythm in the chorus part is unique and there's the solo

See, yeah....alot of these things are noticable to me just as a musician, which is why I can appreciate him, but I was just wondering how the music sounds from a guitarplayer's perspective. I'm in a band right now with a guitarist who's just an absolute DT nut, and I was trying to convince him to do the song "Schism" because I'm fairly certain I can play it on the drums given a little bit more practicing to it (odd time's my speciality, and that's really the most demanding part of the song aside from the end).

thats another thing, tool isnt just adam jones. danny has some of the best drumming i've ever heard. jimmy for instance right befor e the flanged interlude thing. jc on bass especially like 46&2. tool simply wouldn't be tool without all four of them. if somebody died (knock on wood) they couldn't pull it off with a replacement.

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]thats another thing, tool isnt just adam jones. danny has some of the best drumming i've ever heard. jimmy for instance right befor e the flanged interlude thing. jc on bass especially like 46&2. tool simply wouldn't be tool without all four of them. if somebody died (knock on wood) they couldn't pull it off with a replacement.[/QUOTE]

yeah, i really dont get why alot of people treat Tool and APC as Maynard and some other people, which is totally false. theyre an entity, one mass of music made by a collection of people, not just one man. thats all i really have to say, ok later

i am a 15 year old musician, so i tend to dissect music and look at it from a musician's point of view, and personally, i think that all of them are excellent musicians, not just as a group but in themselves. each of the members are fantastic, and bringing them together has made them an epic band. there is no other band out there, past or present, that could be compared to them. they are daring musicians who push the boundaries of perception and raise the bar of music. they are more than just a band, they are god. they combine soulful rhythms with powerful emotion, and skyrocket the feelings of everybody who has ever listened to them. they are physically and spiritually the best band that has ever existed. the music that can be percieved in a personal way by the fans is something that EVERYONE should strive for, and only Tool can do it as well as they do. in conclusion, it can only be said that Tool=God, and there is your proof. best band of all time, no argument will stand :thumb: and anyone who disagrees can go straight to hell for not believing in the god that is jc, dc, aj, and mjk combined into the greatest band that ever existed EVER

[QUOTE=Kage]Get Lateralus first.[/QUOTE]
i got lateralus first and it was kinda alot for me to take in so i think aenima would be a good choice for a first cd to get but thats just my opinion.

[QUOTE=viruz]i am a 15 year old musician, so i tend to dissect music and look at it from a musician's point of view, and personally, i think that all of them are excellent musicians, not just as a group but in themselves. each of the members are fantastic, and bringing them together has made them an epic band. there is no other band out there, past or present, that could be compared to them. they are daring musicians who push the boundaries of perception and raise the bar of music. they are more than just a band, they are god. they combine soulful rhythms with powerful emotion, and skyrocket the feelings of everybody who has ever listened to them. they are physically and spiritually the best band that has ever existed. the music that can be percieved in a personal way by the fans is something that EVERYONE should strive for, and only Tool can do it as well as they do. in conclusion, it can only be said that Tool=God, and there is your proof. best band of all time, no argument will stand :thumb: and anyone who disagrees can go straight to hell for not believing in the god that is jc, dc, aj, and mjk combined into the greatest band that ever existed EVER[/QUOTE]

ok calm down i dont think best band EVER maybe to you or iin thier genre maybe
i mean dont get me wrong tool is my favorite band and i agree they are fantastic and VERY talented but saying theyre god is just a little far fetched
to me
i dont know thats just me but im just saying i dont agree with the whole "BEST EVER" concept because thats like saying your music sucks and everyother band sucks compared to tool i mean theres a whole lot of good music thats out there not just tool.......

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]i got lateralus first and it was kinda alot for me to take in so i think aenima would be a good choice for a first cd to get but thats just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

ive only got lateralus and undertow, and i think that getting them in the order ppl are suggesting is quite good. im kinda gonna work my way backwards, and go: undertow, lateralus, aenema, salival, opiate. kind of an odd order, but hey, whatever works for you.

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]ok calm down i dont think best band EVER maybe to you or iin thier genre maybe
i mean dont get me wrong tool is my favorite band and i agree they are fantastic and VERY talented but saying theyre god is just a little far fetched
to me
i dont know thats just me but im just saying i dont agree with the whole "BEST EVER" concept because thats like saying your music sucks and everyother band sucks compared to tool i mean theres a whole lot of good music thats out there not just tool.......[/QUOTE]


Just to add to this (and this is going to seem very ironic considering my screen name), I dont think its possible to give an musician the title of God. bands like Tool can provoke some very strong emotions, but i try to not get carried away with my view of the band.

And as for best band ever, I dont think any band could ever deserve that title. There are those that are influential, those that are unique, those that have consistency and those that have mass appeal. of course, there are more qualities to consider, but there will never be a band that can do it all.

well said :thumb:

[QUOTE=viruz]ive only got lateralus and undertow, and i think that getting them in the order ppl are suggesting is quite good. im kinda gonna work my way backwards, and go: undertow, lateralus, aenema, salival, opiate. kind of an odd order, but hey, whatever works for you.[/QUOTE]

Weird how you carry on about them, yet you only have two of their albums.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Tool fanatic, but your rant went a little far. :naughty:

As for the which album first controversy, I got Lateralus, Aenima, Undertow, Opiate in that order. It worked well for me. Lateralus was, indeed, a lot to take in, but it was worth it when it really soaked in and I was able to appreciate it more. Then, buying the other two albums helped me realize what led up to that point, which, to me, is the height of their career.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]See, yeah....alot of these things are noticable to me just as a musician, which is why I can appreciate him, but I was just wondering how the music sounds from a guitarplayer's perspective. I'm in a band right now with a guitarist who's just an absolute DT nut, and I was trying to convince him to do the song "Schism" because I'm fairly certain I can play it on the drums given a little bit more practicing to it (odd time's my speciality, and that's really the most demanding part of the song aside from the end).[/QUOTE]
My advice, tell him to learn the actual part, and then if he can play it on time with you guys, tell him to alter the track to his liking. Keep the feel, yet incorporate some of his ideas. You could turn it into a fun song for him, and if you ever played it live, you could revert to the real version. I know, I know, I'm a traitor for even thinking about changing a Tool song. Well, if he is really discouraged with Adam Jones' playing, this might change his mind.

And, those parts at the end of Schism are not anything to discard or shrug off... it's incredible how strong and powerful the ending is, not many people can pull that feeling off, good luck to you man.

Or he could just put in a bunch of strange fills in random spots. That way he gets to do the virtuoso thing and you get Schism. A more unique Schism than all the other cover-ers.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Just to add to this (and this is going to seem very ironic considering my screen name), I dont think its possible to give an musician the title of God. bands like Tool can provoke some very strong emotions, but i try to not get carried away with my view of the band.

And as for best band ever, I dont think any band could ever deserve that title. There are those that are influential, those that are unique, those that have consistency and those that have mass appeal. of course, there are more qualities to consider, but there will never be a band that can do it all.[/QUOTE]
I agree, well said. The thing is, look at how much emotion this band evokes out of most of us. When you listen to thier music and it helps you feel spiritual how can you be in awe of thier music.

I do agree that Maynard gets too much credit. All 4 of them make the perfect fit, without any single one of them the band would not be the same.

ok perfect circle is basically billys band right? because ive heard form some people that maynard started it and then heard from some other people that billy started it. i believe billy started it but im not sure id just appreciate it if someone could tell me who started it thanks
(almost positive billy started it but just making sure :thumb: )

I think its handy that, if tool are GOD, then at least they have JC in the band already.

billy started APC, magicaltroll, go google for a bio of the band and do some research....then post if you find anything unusual :)
surely there's an APC FAQ that answers these questions somewhere :)

Not to be "one of those guys" but I really don't think APC questions belong in the Tool thread. I know many would argue, but, really, Tool and APC have nothing in common and are not the same in any way except that they share one band member.

Tool > APC

[QUOTE=Expresso]My advice, tell him to learn the actual part, and then if he can play it on time with you guys, tell him to alter the track to his liking. Keep the feel, yet incorporate some of his ideas. You could turn it into a fun song for him, and if you ever played it live, you could revert to the real version. I know, I know, I'm a traitor for even thinking about changing a Tool song. Well, if he is really discouraged with Adam Jones' playing, this might change his mind.

And, those parts at the end of Schism are not anything to discard or shrug off... it's incredible how strong and powerful the ending is, not many people can pull that feeling off, good luck to you man.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Somehow, I think when he tries to play it with a full band, he'll gain a new respect for what they're doing....the challenge in Tool is not the individual parts (aside from Carey), but actually keeping everything tight as a group while playing such contrasting rhythmic patterns.