Hey, we agree on something for once :cool:

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Hey, we agree on something for once :cool:[/QUOTE]

The Apocalypse is upon us!

I'm with you and Charming on this one. Religion has always been out of realistic grasp for me.

I dont beleive in abortion and last time we talked i think i had swayed u unless im mistaken or youve changed your mind about it,and im not explaining myself i said what my views were a page or so back thats all im saying about the religion thing

Sooo...just to be completely off topic...CoB had better bring out a DVD sometime in the very near future.

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]I dont beleive in abortion and last time we talked i think i had swayed u unless im mistaken or youve changed your mind about it,and im not explaining myself i said what my views were a page or so back thats all im saying about the religion thing[/QUOTE]


I know where you stand on religion and abortion. You're very clear on that.


Yes, I'm anti abortion & anti death penalty. That's correct.

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]
Hey, we agree on something for once
[/QUOTE]
:thumb:
I think the only thing we disagreed on really was the swastika. That and I bashed nu-metal. Other than that, I can't think of any e-duals or battles we've fought.


[QUOTE=The Sandman]
Sooo...just to be completely off topic...CoB had better bring out a DVD sometime in the very near future.
[/QUOTE]
We don't stand for off topic posting in this thread. Take your CoB discussion somewhere else. :p

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]I dont beleive in abortion and last time we talked i think i had swayed u unless im mistaken or youve changed your mind about it,and im not explaining myself i said what my views were a page or so back thats all im saying about the religion thing[/QUOTE]

What does abortion have to do with anything at hand?

c'mon... god is dead ... lets stop this discussion :p

/sarcasm

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]I know where you stand on religion and abortion. You're very clear on that.


Yes, I'm anti abortion & anti death penalty. That's correct.




We don't stand for off topic posting in this thread. Take your CoB discussion somewhere else. :p[/QUOTE]


Thats what i thought the last time we talked, ok

[QUOTE=repcak]c'mon... god is dead ... lets stop this discussion :p

/sarcasm[/QUOTE]

Even though it was sarcasm...I agree with both statements in that post.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]What does abortion have to do with anything at hand?[/QUOTE]


Her bashing my opinions. I pointed about the fact that we both hold the same belief on abortion.

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Her bashing my opinions. I pointed about the fact that we both hold the same belief on abortion.[/QUOTE]

Ahhh okay, I understand now :)

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]

Yes, I'm anti abortion & anti death penalty. That's correct.
[/QUOTE]
äh... are you now pro or contra child-abortion and death penalty?! you're from america. i am from europe and on these things we general have different opinions.

child-abortion is legal in europe and no one is against it... beside some ppl who are too(!) religious. Death penalty was last executed after WW2 on some nazis (nürnburger process)

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]
:thumb:
I think the only thing we disagreed on really was the swastika. That and I bashed nu-metal. Other than that, I can't think of any e-duals or battles we've fought.
[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. I don't necessarily agree with the abortion thing though. Death penalty though, I agree with you.

[QUOTE=repcak]äh... are you now pro or contra child-abortion and death penalty?! you're from america. i am from europe and on these things we general have different opinions.

child-abortion is legal in europe and no one is against it... beside some ppl who are too(!) religious. Death penalty was last executed after WW2 on some nazis (nürnburger process)[/QUOTE]

It's fairly mixed in the US. It mostly depends where you live as well. Most people in a liberal state like California would accept it as ok. Texas or most southern states would be against it.

It's legal as of now. South Datoka just banned it within their state and made it a criminal offense. That's basically a pathway to getting the supreme court to review and (hopefully) overturn Roe V Wade. That won't erase all abortion though. Overturning it would just make it up to the states. In other words, if you live in Texas, you gotta get on a plane to Cali.

I'm against the Death Penalty for several reasons, here they are.

1. It's not a deterent as it's meant
2. Life without Parole is far worse on an inmate
(Death row is your own cell, no contact with other inmates, lots of family and lawyer visits, basic cable and radio if you but it from the prison and after 20 years if appeals failed, get a needle in your arm and fall asleep forever).
Compared to the dangers of prison for the rest of your of natural life.
Fights, getting shaked, raped or killed.
3. Innocent people wind up on Death row many times
4. I think it's used on Minorities more and unfairly applied.
5. Example,
Say you have a brutal rape & murder of a drug addict hooker with no family and you have the exact same rape and murder except the victim is a single mom of four? Who would you "feel deserves to die" more?
Most people would say, the killer of the single mom despite everything being the same....

Aren't you putting more worth on one persons life in that situation?


EDIT: Don't claim Death Row would be lonely. These guys are sociopaths, they aren't warm fuzzy people lovers who long for friendship.

I'm all for abortion...I'm against the death penalty though. I must say everyone's favorite drunk redneck, Ron White, said it best.

"If we catch Osama, I wouldn't want a firing squad to take him out. Nah, I'd want him stuck in a maximum security prison and forced to lick the jelly outta Thunderdick's buttcrack for thirty-five years."

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I'm all for abortion...I'm against the death penalty though. I must say everyone's favorite drunk redneck, Ron White, said it best.

"If we catch Osama, I wouldn't want a firing squad to take him out. Nah, I'd want him stuck in a maximum security prison and forced to lick the jelly outta Thunderdick's buttcrack for thirty-five years."[/QUOTE]


haha. That's wishful thinking, he'd get dusted in five minutes.

So your all for babies getting killed

I am 100% for abortion.

nice to know u like babies being killed

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]I am 100% for abortion.[/QUOTE]

Alright then it's 2-2 right now.

FuryInArt and Josh for it. Mandy & I against it.

I reccomend an e-dual!

PS,

You have a free ticket to call me a hypocrite and laugh at me Josh.

NP: Disturbed

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]nice to know u like babies being killed[/QUOTE]

As opposed to the babies and the mothers dying (or living in poverty throughout their lives, in rare cases) as well? Yes.

@I'm Charming: ok, now i understand and i am share the same opinion... more or less, though i am strictly against death-penalty; how said before... we don't practise it in europe and thats good so. i hope this will never change.

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]So your all for babies getting killed[/QUOTE]
and what when a 16yrs old girl is pregnant? i know a lot of girls who get pregnant early! even at the university when you are 20+ it can happen to get pregnant... what do you do? there are situation in life where abortion is necessary and believe me, nobody wants to become a mother or a father with 16/17yrs ... or even 20!

3:2

I'm only okay with Abortion in cases of rape & incest.

There's no way to say she should have to bear a child conceived through rape or incest. That would be just f[size=2]uc[/size]ked up.

[QUOTE=repcak]@I'm Charming: ok, now i understand and i am share the same opinion... more or less, though i am strictly against death-penalty; how said before... we don't practise it in europe and thats good so. i hope this will never change.

[/QUOTE]

Alright. So we've got you and I against the Death Penalty.
2-0

I don't think we should have it.
One more reason,

Europe > all

i became a mother at 15 got pregnant at 14 i didnt choose to kill my baby that didnt ask to be created i had my baby and im going to raise him,btw you can get help insurance,takes care of daycare and food,and its called working so u wont starve to death

even if i was raped the child didnt ask for any of it,i would still raise that child

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]nice to know u like babies being killed[/QUOTE]
Yeah, ok.

Anyway.

I believe it should be used for any case of rape, incest, unable to care for the kid, if the kid will be born with severe mental problems, if it could severely hurt the mother/child.

EDIT: I'm also against the death penalty. By the way, listen to some real metal :p

and whats about a mistake? when she forgot to take her pill or the condom burst`?

@Lil: you are a mother? how old are you now? ... and how did this happen to you with 14? i even haven't a girlfriend with 14... my first sex i had with 16 ...

I believe it should then be up to her.

read my post above,the child didnt ask for any of it,and its called medicaid so you can care for the child

im 17 now ill be 18 in august

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Yeah, ok.

Anyway.

I believe it should be used for any case of rape, incest, unable to care for the kid, if the kid will be born with severe mental problems, if it could severely hurt the mother/child.

EDIT: I'm also against the death penalty. By the way, listen to some real metal :p[/QUOTE]

To late: NP Bodom Living Dead Beat

Yeah. I forgot to add "danger to the mother" as another okay reason for abortion.


Mandy: It ruined your chance of finishing High School though. It'll prevent you from doing many things young people would like to, because being a parent comes first.

Repcak: My first GF and only sex was at 14(almost 15). Though I've only a 3 or 4 GF's in my life. I've never been the pimp or anything.

Josh: Alright that's 3-0 against the Death Penalty

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]read my post above,the child didnt ask for any of it,and its called medicaid so you can care for the child

im 17 now ill be 18 in august[/QUOTE]

As will I.

No offense, but they covered because you can't afford it otherwise.

Point being, someone who's middleclass will be screwed. They won't qualify for that yet won't hold the funds in their own pockets.