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Kronos 07-27-2006 05:16 AM

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Does anyone else in here barely like Morningrise at all?I really cant get into it for some reason.[/QUOTE]

I'm personally not that keen on most of that album, but I love "To Bid You Farewell" - it's one of my very favourite Opeth tracks. Even though a lot of its 10 plus minute length could be chopped out with little loss.

JamJar 07-27-2006 05:34 AM

[quote=PeEpHoLe 10]Does anyone else in here barely like Morningrise at all?I really cant get into it for some reason.[/quote]

I agree. I just can't get into Morningrise or Orchid. They're not really my sort of music. But TBYF destroys everything else.

Mr. Squiggles 07-27-2006 08:36 AM

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Does anyone else in here barely like Morningrise at all?I really cant get into it for some reason.[/QUOTE]

I love Morningrise. I can't really rate their albums, because I like them all. But it is one of my favorites.

Kronos 07-27-2006 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=Meatplow]I've only got Damnation, which i like a lot.

Whats the next step you guys would recommend?[/QUOTE]

That's a tricky one, 'cos Damnation is absolutely [I]nothing[/I] like any of their other albums, although there are some quieter tracks in most of them..

I think it's a case of take your pick and see, but personally I like Blackwater Park and Deliverence best on the whole.

beastman168 07-27-2006 08:57 AM

The first song I ever heard by Opeth was Master's Apprentices. I think right after that I went and bought the album Deliverance. I listened to it for about a month then I went and bought another album, "Blackwater Park". Yesterday I finally went and got "Ghost Reveries". I've listened to it about 4 times now and I love it. I own in all five albums by Opeth. "Damnation", "Ghost Reveries", "Still Life", "Deliverance", and "Blackwater Park". I don't really have a favorite Opeth song because they all kick ***, but Master's Apprentices has a special place in my heart, cause it was the first song I heard by them.

Neoteric 07-27-2006 09:14 AM

Hehe, I'm just getting into My Arms, Your Hearse

JamJar 07-27-2006 09:25 AM

[QUOTE=Neoteric]Hehe, I'm just getting into My Arms, Your Hearse[/QUOTE]

So you should be. That album is f[size=2]u[/size]cking amazing.

Kronos 07-27-2006 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=beastman168]The first song I ever heard by Opeth was Master's Apprentices. I think right after that I went and bought the album Deliverance. I listened to it for about a month then I went and bought another album, "Blackwater Park". Yesterday I finally went and got "Ghost Reveries". I've listened to it about 4 times now and I love it. I own in all five albums by Opeth. "Damnation", "Ghost Reveries", "Still Life", "Deliverance", and "Blackwater Park". I don't really have a favorite Opeth song because they all kick ***, but Master's Apprentices has a special place in my heart, cause it was the first song I heard by them.[/QUOTE]

Master's Apprentices is one of my fave tracks ever - I just love the crushingly heavy opening riff - and Martin Lopez's 32nd note double bass - awesome.
Pity about his problems and him leaving the band - he's my drumming idol. I expect his replacement is also very good ( I'll find out in November), what is it with Opeth and the name Martin? The replacement drummer's called Martin too, and none of them are english. It's like an english band having three members called Pascal or something...

Neoteric 07-27-2006 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=JamJar]So you should be. That album is f[size=2]u[/size]cking amazing.[/QUOTE]
When is immense.

JamJar 07-27-2006 09:38 AM

[QUOTE=beastman168]I own in all five albums by Opeth. [/QUOTE]

There's eight. You're missing Orchid, Morningrise and My Arms, Your Hearse.

[quote=Neoteric]When is immense.[/quote]

I love it. It's so emotional.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 10:22 AM

[QUOTE=Kronos]Master's Apprentices is one of my fave tracks ever - I just love the crushingly heavy opening riff - and Martin Lopez's 32nd note double bass - awesome.
Pity about his problems and him leaving the band - he's my drumming idol. I expect his replacement is also very good ( I'll find out in November), what is it with Opeth and the name Martin? The replacement drummer's called Martin too, and none of them are english. It's like an english band having three members called Pascal or something...[/QUOTE]

His replacement is very good. I got to see him live at the Opeth/Nevermore show. Still it just won't be the same without Lopez.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 11:01 AM

Yea, he did a drum solo at that show. You can't really go wrong with Bloodbath.

Kronos 07-27-2006 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=Spoonful of Shame]His replacement is very good. I got to see him live at the Opeth/Nevermore show. Still it just won't be the same without Lopez.[/QUOTE]
Does he play the drum parts exactly the same, or does he do his own thing (within limits)?

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 11:08 AM

Probably within limits. It's kinda hard to play the exact same thing on every song.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=Kronos]Does he play the drum parts exactly the same, or does he do his own thing (within limits)?[/QUOTE]

Lets put it this way. I didn't notice any majors changes in the drums. It was an amazing show and the drums were no exception.

Kronos 07-27-2006 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Spoonful of Shame]Lets put it this way. I didn't notice any majors changes in the drums. It was an amazing show and the drums were no exception.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good! I wouldn't expect him to play exactly the same as Lopez - even he didn't play the songs identically live and studio, but hats off to him if the new guy can do it virtually the same; their songs are hard enough being mainly long with lots of different parts, but when you have to imitate another drummer's feel and style it must be much more difficult.

/looks forward to November even more now....

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 12:02 PM

When do Gigantour tickets go on sale?

Iron Bars 07-27-2006 12:03 PM

[QUOTE=Kronos]Sounds good! I wouldn't expect him to play exactly the same as Lopez - even he didn't play the songs identically live and studio, but hats off to him if the new guy can do it virtually the same; their songs are hard enough being mainly long with lots of different parts, but when you have to imitate another drummer's feel and style it must be much more difficult.

/looks forward to November even more now....[/QUOTE]

It was that I had read that Lopez was not there or I would not have noticed the difference. I'm more interested in how he is going to preform on the next studio album.

Shattered_Future 07-27-2006 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=JamJar]There's eight. You're missing Orchid, Morningrise and My Arms, Your Hearse.



I love it. It's so emotional.[/QUOTE]

He said IN all. Which means he knows there's 8, but only owns 5.

/grammer police ftw.

Pretty sure I'm going to Gigantour. If there's no tickets to a Jones Beach show (which I'm hoping will be one of the TBD dates), I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go to PNC.

JamJar 07-27-2006 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]He said IN all. Which means he knows there's 8, but only owns 5.

/grammer police ftw.[/QUOTE]

Misreading ftl :(

beastman168 07-27-2006 01:27 PM

My fault, there's suppose to be a comma. It won't let me edit it.

BlackFire_ 07-27-2006 02:16 PM

Im finding "To Bid You Farewell" a masterpiece right now. This song is amazing, I dislike new Opeth though, Ghost Reveries was horrid, IMO.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 02:49 PM

Ghost of Perdition, Reverie/Harlequin Forest, The Baying of the Hounds, and Beneath the Mire are all amazing songs off Ghost Reveries.

Overall, I think it is a really good album. Not a classic album or anything by Opeth's standards but has some amazing songs on it. \m/

btw, The Grand Conjuration is so heavy sounding live. Its intense.

JamJar 07-27-2006 02:51 PM

I'd say it's about middle in my order of Opeth albums. It's got some amzing tracks (Isolation Years, Ghost Of Perdition) but also some not so good ones (The Grand Conjuration, Atonement) The songs generally drag on a bit for me though.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 02:52 PM

I'd still put it near the bottom..along with D1.

JamJar 07-27-2006 02:53 PM

Yeah it's above D1 and the Orchid and Morningrise. The latter two do nothing for me at all.

BlackFire_ 07-27-2006 02:54 PM

I find Mikael's vocals on the new albums very annoying, personally. If you listen to "In Mist She Was Standing" and then "The Grand Conjuration", there's a huge difference.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 02:55 PM

MR is not anywhere near the bottom.

It's hard to make a bottom when all have such great elements.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 02:56 PM

Exactly. None of Opeth's albums are crappy or anything but when ranking them even the albums you would put on the bottom are still really good.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 03:01 PM

I have to go to work now, you guys have fun.


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