[QUOTE=Kage]Jones definately gets some bizarre tones in his playing...he's basically my guitar idol.[/QUOTE]

He's definetly my guitar idol!

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]That's interesting. As far as I knew it was just a Silverburst studio LP or something.[/QUOTE]

People complained about the Silverburst having odd tones, but Adam didn't.

So, I am certain that some of his tones do come from the guitar's uniqueness.

Also, he has used an Epilady at least once, although I don't know on what song. Third Eye, maybe?

And he does something weird on Triad too. When I say weird, I mean behind weird harmonics, but weird.

His tone also comes from what he uses to play. He uses an epilady sometimes to get that whirring, builing buzzing sort of sound.

EDIT: WTF Joz. You pre-emptively stole my post and had more to say in yours.

thanks for explaining that to me. i appreciate it :thumb:

Frogs on parabola?
 

i was mucking about trying to reoder the tracks according to this 'holy gift' theory (angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html if u havent seen it) and came across a strange feeling while trying to sync up the end of parabola with the start of schism. i had the volume turned up loud, and i mean LOUD to make it easy to hear what was going on, and stumbled upon something. if you listen to the very end of parabola, just as the distortion dies down and the slow picking moves in, i heard what sounded like a swamp... Now i am very new to Tool, and already think theyre awesome, and i know that they have been around the block, so i did numerous searches on google to see if anyone had found this, but nobody had posted anything....at all. I was just wondering if its significant or if anyone else knew about this (perhaps some symbolism with 'swamp song') but i am confused no end :confused:

[QUOTE=The JoZ]People complained about the Silverburst having odd tones, but Adam didn't.

So, I am certain that some of his tones do come from the guitar's uniqueness.

Also, he has used an Epilady at least once, although I don't know on what song. Third Eye, maybe?

And he does something weird on Triad too. When I say weird, I mean behind weird harmonics, but weird.[/QUOTE]

I know he used an Natural finish LP custom in the past, not sure if he does now (still havent seen them live :angry: ) for songs such as Prison Sex and Parabola, due to the lower tuning.

[QUOTE=viruz]i was mucking about trying to reoder the tracks according to this 'holy gift' theory (angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html if u havent seen it) and came across a strange feeling while trying to sync up the end of parabola with the start of schism. i had the volume turned up loud, and i mean LOUD to make it easy to hear what was going on, and stumbled upon something. if you listen to the very end of parabola, just as the distortion dies down and the slow picking moves in, i heard what sounded like a swamp... Now i am very new to Tool, and already think theyre awesome, and i know that they have been around the block, so i did numerous searches on google to see if anyone had found this, but nobody had posted anything....at all. I was just wondering if its significant or if anyone else knew about this (perhaps some symbolism with 'swamp song') but i am confused no end :confused:[/QUOTE]


Does this sound anything like the end of disgustipated? There is a constant swamp sound all the way through to Adam's little phone speech, is it the same?

i know tool encorporate a lot of 'can-only-hear-at-full-volume bits in their songs (most noticeable being on the Undertow album), but I wasnt aware of anymore.

Oh well, its an excuse to turn tool up loud some more I guess. maybe thats the motive they had in mind, and its a fake rumour usd to encourage loud playing of their albums to further promote their work? Or maybe they just like messing about

I searched but I couldn't find it. Can anyone tell me what pu****'s about? I've fallen in love with that song.

[QUOTE=risbo]I searched but I couldn't find it. Can anyone tell me what pu****'s about? I've fallen in love with that song.[/QUOTE]


Come on man, try and find your own meaning. Tool's songs are 4 times better when you have your own meaning for the song. There is no definitive meaning for the songs, the only thing you'll find on the internet is interpretations of others.

Some guy managed to make an amazingly accurate and detailed comparison between Pu****'s lyrics and a philosopher's work.

Its one of tools songs where the meaning could be a very personal one for the listener (i know it is for me), and whatever the original message of the song was will not be important for those who draw their own meaning. I wouldn't like to hear MJK suddenly tell us all 'no, you're wrong, this is what its about'. It would take something away for me

yeah i wouldnt really like to know what the song is REALLY about because i kinda like to make my own meanings, i mean i like reading others reviews to see what they got out of the song but i just think you should find your own meanings to the song because its alot funner that way (well for me it is because i like trying to find meaning to lyrics or songs, whatever...)

I want to know exactly what it's about just to spite AJIG. :p

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]I want to know exactly what it's about just to spite AJIG. :p[/QUOTE]

Its all about the terrible consequnces that occur to cheeky young men who try and get one up on their elders :evil:

ohhh.... :upset:



Guess I'm going to hell now.

[QUOTE=Otherside]Come on man, try and find your own meaning. Tool's songs are 4 times better when you have your own meaning for the song. There is no definitive meaning for the songs, the only thing you'll find on the internet is interpretations of others.[/QUOTE]
Your exactly right, thats what makes Tools stuff so great. Everyone can have thier own opinion on what it means. Some of the lyrics I write are like that. People always get thier own opinion on what it means. I think the worse thing would be to write a song and someone come up and say, this is exactly what it means (unless your shooting for that) and be correct.

Some of Tool's stuff is pretty easy to see the meaning of, Aenema, 46 and 2, songs like that. Most of it is left to interpretation...

I know that if Maynard came out and was like this is what this osng is about and so on, I would be crushed. I like to take my own meanings from the lyrics. I think its more of a personal thing. Thank to have one defined meaning. This is especially important with Tool.

Hello everybody,

Im just really getting into tool now, so dose anyone have a good first cd to get by them?

I plan on getting the one with sober on it too.

Help would be apprecated!

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I know that if Maynard came out and was like this is what this osng is about and so on, I would be crushed. I like to take my own meanings from the lyrics. I think its more of a personal thing. Thank to have one defined meaning. This is especially important with Tool.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, his lyrics are like open minded questions...they'll be different for everyone and not staring you in the face.

[QUOTE=slaughteredfirst]Hello everybody,

Im just really getting into tool now, so dose anyone have a good first cd to get by them?

I plan on getting the one with sober on it too.

Help would be apprecated![/QUOTE]


Aenima would be a really good first CD to get of theres... Its extremely good and shows all of the many talents and sides of the band... Lateralus would be a good CD to start with too, and it has pretty much all amazing tracks. Sober is on Undertow, which is a very good CD, but I think you should start off with Aenima, tahts my opinion.

Aenima => Undertow => Lateralus => Opiate

^^^ that would be a good order.

You get to see their best first, then what led up to that album, then their most current work, and then go back to see what influenced them.

Get Lateralus first.

i got all of mine backwards (Lateralus, AEnima, Undertow, Opiate), and it was very intresting to see how theyve come along as a band, so you may want to try that, but you can do what you want, dont listen to me or anyone else

well, since i missed a few pages on eMOTIVe and Radiohead, ill give my 2 cents and my 15 minutes of fame now, even though i am a few pages late

ok so, eMOTIVe, i like it, call me crazy but i do. as whole, but the ones that stand out the most for me are People are People and Whats Goin'. Gimme Gimme Gimme i like, which may surprise some if you. i like the live version of Passive (or then called Vacant) better than the one on the album. the two songs that doesnt really do it for me is (Whats So Funny 'Bout) Peace Love and Understanding and When the Levee breaks, kind of boring. the part that surprises me the most about the album is that Billy does lead vocals on 3 or so songs, and Maynard plays piano on Imagine, even though i read this thing where he said he couldnt walk and chew gum at the same time, let alone play piano, also Paz's readdition is cool, and Lohner...james barely did anything, which was kind of dissapointing because i just got into Smashing Pumpkins and was expecting more from James, what i like about the new additions, is that its not Maynard and 4 other people, its 7 people as a whole

and the radiohead thing

i get music-asms listening to both bands, often, and alot]

ok later

[QUOTE=x the patient x6]i got all of mine backwards (Lateralus, AEnima, Undertow, Opiate), and it was very intresting to see how theyve come along as a band, so you may want to try that, but you can do what you want, dont listen to me or anyone else[/QUOTE]

Thats how I got mine too. Works great. I recommend it.

[QUOTE=Kage]Get Lateralus first.[/QUOTE]
Indeed.

Lateralus' songs each represent exactly what TOOL is known for.

Hey, I had a question for any fans of Tool that play guitar (AdamjonesisGod particularly): what do you find attractive about Adam Jones' style? Drummers and bassists obviously have alot to look for, as alot of the songs are heavily geared towards those instruments, but most of Jones' playing isn't especially technical, aside from the rhythmic aspects obviously. I mean, there aren't any huge arpeggio million note Petrucci/Romeo style solos and crazy leads. So, what are Adam's strengths as a player, and what are good examples?

Re: the order to get tool albums - I disagree that lateralus is the best get first...think its much easier to appreciate once you're familiar with the style..I think aenima or undertow are the best starters.
But really, perhaps no matter what order you first buy them , you'l still be able to appreciate them after a million listens, so go buy the first tool album you can get!

Also, bout the song-meanings - I think we're a bit precious about the whole issue. To me when someone asks "waht does push.it mean??" they don't mean "give the absolute definitve meaning" they mean "what does it mean to you?"
There's a big difference between attributing a fixed definition to a song, and sharing our veiwpoints of a song.
I for one don't like being an island: if I hear an interpretation that I like and hadn't thought of, I can modify my original thoughts.
Sometimes the way we talk about it, it seems that any interpretation HAS to be entirely our own and un-influenced by others for it to be valid. Since this is impossible, I embrace my desire to feel connected by tapping into the vast source of interpretation, conspiracy and semiotics that is the WWW.

I realise that i'm preaching to the converted mostly, but I felt it needed to be said.
Us aussies extend to americans a big hug of sympathy between our nations for somehow re-electing our war-mongering leaders.
cheers...

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hey, I had a question for any fans of Tool that play guitar (AdamjonesisGod particularly): what do you find attractive about Adam Jones' style? Drummers and bassists obviously have alot to look for, as alot of the songs are heavily geared towards those instruments, but most of Jones' playing isn't especially technical, aside from the rhythmic aspects obviously. I mean, there aren't any huge arpeggio million note Petrucci/Romeo style solos and crazy leads. So, what are Adam's strengths as a player, and what are good examples?[/QUOTE]

a good rythm player,tool is a rythm band.but adam is mainly responsible for tools weird image and sound.

just wondering if anybody has found any truth about that whole mantra=cat rumour, cos i found that speeding it up only makes it sound weirder (kinda like a car alarm)