[QUOTE=sack-man]all the bassists in metallica had their own time in the base, its not like any of them got kicked out because of arguing; burton was killed in the crash, and as far as i know newsteds left without any arguments or anything, did he just want a change? and now they've got trujillo, but why bother arguing about who was / is better when they have a perfectly good bassist now?[/QUOTE]

That's bullsh!t man!

1st: Jason "got kicked" due to the fact that James didn't want him to go on with two projects. It was either Metallica og Echobrain.

2nd: No doubt that Rob really is a great bass player, But we haven't seen him doing anything very cool yet. Like Burton doing solos and interludes (Pulling Teeth, and almost interludes on KEA(Four Horsemen), MOP(Master of Puppets) and RTL(Fade to Black))

All the bassist are very different, and has diffrent effects on the music. Burton played the bass like an inviduel instrument. Jason followed the guitars and did as James told him.

I can't say much about Rob yet, cuz he hasn't been in metallica for an complete album recording process...

[QUOTE=I'mhungryForASandwich]Personally, I like Jason Newsted the best for Metallica bassist.[/QUOTE]


I think Jason Newstead was an amazing Bassist for Metallica, But i feel he didnt seem to have the image that fitted in with Metallica... You look at the pics with Cliff.. He fitted in great, look at pics with jason though... He seems to stand out, Rob fits in better than jason.

Just my opinion though :evil:

[QUOTE=Pisungen]That's bullsh!t man!

1st: Jason "got kicked" due to the fact that James didn't want him to go on with two projects. It was either Metallica og Echobrain.

2nd: No doubt that Rob really is a great bass player, But we haven't seen him doing anything very cool yet. Like Burton doing solos and interludes (Pulling Teeth, and almost interludes on KEA(Four Horsemen), MOP(Master of Puppets) and RTL(Fade to Black))

All the bassist are very different, and has diffrent effects on the music. Burton played the bass like an inviduel instrument. Jason followed the guitars and did as James told him.

I can't say much about Rob yet, cuz he hasn't been in metallica for an complete album recording process...[/QUOTE]

I accually saw Rock AM ring, which took place just before S.t Anger came out, and i must say Robs bass playing was accually awesome, He had also changed alot of Jason's work and replaced it with his own... But yes i agree we havn't saw him play bass for any of his own work with Metallica just yet

Btw When we're talking about good bassist we're about how creative they are... Not how good they play... Ofc Jason rocked doing the bass, but in the studio is kinda .... boring?

[QUOTE=Pisungen]Btw When we're talking about good bassist we're about how creative they are... Not how good they play... Ofc Jason rocked doing the bass, but in the studio is kinda .... boring?[/QUOTE]


How creative they are???? I am a drummer, and a guitarist.. I am highly creative but as far as playing of the bass goes its awfull because i rarely play it..... Its not just how creative they are... Its how good they play it also

How 'good' somebody is at something depends entirely on peopls definition of the word.
If you are going to discuss how 'good' someone is then agree the defnition before hand so that no confusion arises.
I'm sick to death of people trying argue about how good someone is, when in fact they're talking about completely different things.

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I think Jason Newstead was an amazing Bassist for Metallica, But i feel he didnt seem to have the image that fitted in with Metallica... You look at the pics with Cliff.. He fitted in great, look at pics with jason though... He seems to stand out, Rob fits in better than jason.

Just my opinion though :evil:[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree, I think Rob fits in to Metallica with his awesome crabwalk and how he twirls his hair around :D

The crabwalk is fun to do, I do it all the time in school. Only problem is that I pulled a muscle doing it the other day, cos I bent my leg the wrong way. :(

[QUOTE=vashts80]The crabwalk is fun to do, I do it all the time in school. Only problem is that I pulled a muscle doing it the other day, cos I bent my leg the wrong way. :([/QUOTE]I guess it's a just a special skill then :D

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]How creative they are???? I am a drummer, and a guitarist.. I am highly creative but as far as playing of the bass goes its awfull because i rarely play it..... Its not just how creative they are... Its how good they play it also[/QUOTE]

Surething... I'm talking about when you compare Jason and Cliff...

Btw. Just watched SKOM, and noticed a really cool riff... It's in the "Unnamed Feeling" part... Just after they've talked trou the lyrics, and Lars Pisses james of... Can't find it anywhere on St. Anger... It's kinda speedy

[QUOTE=munky_magik]How 'good' somebody is at something depends entirely on peopls definition of the word.
If you are going to discuss how 'good' someone is then agree the defnition before hand so that no confusion arises.
I'm sick to death of people trying argue about how good someone is, when in fact they're talking about completely different things.[/QUOTE]

That's why i tried settling it ;)

[QUOTE=CreepingDeath~]I guess it's a just a special skill then :D[/QUOTE]

Must be (Attepts going downstairs doing the crab) lol :evil:

[QUOTE=Pisungen]That's why i tried settling it ;)[/QUOTE]


I did understand... I pointed out that a good bass player does not nesassarily mean they are creative... You can be the most creative guy in the world but if you can play the instrument well, then its not going to sound good Eg: Playing drums with pencils :D

It must be hard for Rob makin' that face he does, crabwalking, twirling his hair, and playing bass at the same time. :cool:

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]I did understand... I pointed out that a good bass player does not nesassarily mean they are creative... You can be the most creative guy in the world but if you [B]can[/B] play the instrument well, then its not going to sound good Eg: Playing drums with pencils :D[/QUOTE]
Can or can't? :confused:

I think pencil drumming is cool :upset:

[QUOTE=CreepingDeath~]Can or can't? :confused:

I think pencil drumming is cool :upset:[/QUOTE]

I think it's can't :wave:

[QUOTE=Pisungen]I think it's can't :wave:[/QUOTE]
Okay, that's what I thought.. :)

[QUOTE=Pisungen]I think it's can't :wave:[/QUOTE]

Yea its cant lol

[QUOTE=I'mhungryForASandwich]Personally, I like Jason Newsted the best for Metallica bassist.[/QUOTE]
Same.
Someone said something about how Jason looked very out of place with Metallica, I totally disagree with that. That guy has a pretty metal face and knows how to perform, and he also can do very good growls (Live Sh*t). IMO, after Cliff passed away, he was the god-sent replacement who would try to mantain Cliff's legacy, but never pass it. As far as I see Cliff, it was rarley about his playing... It was about his presence and performance. Jason did his job on every single one of those Metallica never realized this (self admitted), and coincidently, in the 4ish albums Jason was with them, their fanbase became 10X bigger. As soon as he left, Metallica seemed to have lost its mind. Not that I'm bashing Rob, but his performance leaves me cold and his image just makes Metallica seem like an everyday trucker band (don't ask me to explain, i have no clue why :confused: ).

btw, since I haven't been on this in about 4 days, i just noticed the new rep thing. Funny because just a few days before I was battling about that topic with some morons in another thread. Repping was starting to be used as a weapon to enforce your opinions, and in the end only the biggest were able to keep up. Thats just missing the entire point. Kudos to the mods.

[QUOTE=CreepingDeath~]It must be hard for Rob makin' that face he does, crabwalking, twirling his hair, and playing bass at the same time. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Well he's been playing with Ozzy for years, and I think they said he's around the same age as the rest of the band (38-42 range prolly) so he's had a long time to practice multitasking :thumb:

edit: i haven't been on all day. where'd my stars go?!

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Same.
Someone said something about how Jason looked very out of place with Metallica, I totally disagree with that.[/QUOTE]


Claypool tryed out for Metallica the same time as Newsted did. Claypool is an awesome bassist, but he would be totally out of place in Metallica. Primus is a great band for Claypool.

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Not that I'm bashing Rob, but his performance leaves me cold and his image just makes Metallica seem like an everyday trucker band (don't ask me to explain, i have no clue why :confused: ).[/QUOTE]
:lol:

[QUOTE=I'mhungryForASandwich]Claypool tryed out for Metallica the same time as Newsted did. Claypool is an awesome bassist, but he would be totally out of place in Metallica. Primus is a great band for Claypool.[/QUOTE]

Jason was out of place with metallica too, though, and in my opinion claypool is the better bassist...So it surprises me that he wasn't picked over jason, but your right, claypool did fit very well in primus

[QUOTE=llauoykcuf]Jason was out of place with metallica too, though, and in my opinion claypool is the better bassist...So it surprises me that he wasn't picked over jason, but your right, claypool did fit very well in primus[/QUOTE]
Jason only felt out of place because the other band members did not give him enough credit/creativity etc. He wasn't out of place becaues he wasn't the right man for the job (IMO).

What is Jason doing now, I know he is not with Echobrain or Ozzy, he must be still playing with Voivod. I read in an old interview that James shot down alot of Jason's ideas because his(Jason's) riffs sounded like Black Sabbath.

yeah jason is still playing with voivod. i love rob as metallica's bassist, i mean seriously the guy is so hard not to love, watch him play battery its incredible how nuts he goes and how fast he can pluck, also he has the most powerful power stance of any guitarist ive seen. jason was a good bass player i liked all of his little interlude things he did live, however i dont think he was creative enough on stage, he just follows the guitars

The reason why he followed the guitars was because most of the riffs were wrote that way, IIRC.

As far as the whole bassist issue goes, and I've said this before, I believe that Rob is the most skilled of their three, but Jason had the most stage presence. I have started taking a liking to the crabwalk, though. It's teh pawnage.

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[QUOTE=lecky]yeah jason is still playing with voivod. i love rob as metallica's bassist, i mean seriously the guy is so hard not to love, watch him play battery its incredible how nuts he goes and how fast he can pluck, also he has the most powerful power stance of any guitarist ive seen. jason was a good bass player i liked all of his little interlude things he did live, however i dont think he was creative enough on stage, he just follows the guitars[/QUOTE]

I think jason was plenty creative enough. Rob just looks weird IMO with metallica.

I wonder if Jason will have regrets about leaving Metallica, I dont think he would go crawling back and I would say the decision is final, I doubt they would take him back.