Might be time to sell my Matamp :|

My Pod sounds amazing, and I wouldn't complain at £1000 sitting in my bank :/

Well that was a fucking odd outing to the pub. We went there and found out our old drummer hung himself like a year ago. There was a memorial chair in the corner and everything... and now I'm drunk.

Brutal.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;18604292]lol ryan

Sold my Pitchfactor, in other news! Not that I had any worries about that one. Pitchfactors hold their value well because they're such hot pedals. I will probably regret this in about 5 months when I start playing bass more actively again. :([/QUOTE]

Practicality > ... Ridiculosity

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;18605147]Practicality > ... Ridiculosity[/QUOTE]

Meh. I got a ton of practical use out of my pedal. Playing in a three piece, it really let me double up on sounds, good for melodies, and other stuff. True, I wasn't getting 100% use out of it, but enough to justify it.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;18605149]Meh. I got a ton of practical use out of my pedal. Playing in a three piece, it really let me double up on sounds, good for melodies, and other stuff. True, I wasn't getting 100% use out of it, but enough to justify it.[/QUOTE]

I was more referring to sub-contra tuning on a 6 string bass :lol:

But that too, I guess. I've become somewhat disillusioned towards fancy toys and am adopting a more "back to basics" ideology. I think I'm just sick of all the over produced indie (oxymoron?) shit that clogs Australian radio. And if it's not that, then it's some kind of generic dance/"r&b" track consisting of a basic synth drum beat, some "ooohhhs" and "wooahhhs", then about 4 minutes of wailing about some "fine girl".

Maybe I'm generalising.

No... No, it's the artists who are wrong.

lol

Yeah. I like a back to basics thing, for sure, but sometimes more is better. Or at least useful.

Distortion/Overdrive pedal, compression pedal (or rack) and an EQ.

All you need for bass. :p

My new secret weapon for recording direct bass guitar:

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Really? Preferring that over the VT?

I want a Rickenbacker, for some inexplicable reason.

[QUOTE=fatbandit;18605612]Really? Preferring that over the VT?[/QUOTE]
yeah man, I told you, I can't get the mother fucker to distort nicely. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I will post some clips of the tones maybe if I get a chance tomorrow.

The reason I like the pedal is I'm using it in a way it aint designed to be used, but I'm still making it work.

I fuck around with the knobs etc, then into my GAP pre73, then into my Art PRO VLA II, at a slow attack quick release, 20:1 Ratio and it just has such a smooth low end. Like the compressor is only compressing like very other millisecond, just catching the biggest transients and letting them go almost straight away. The VLA really even outs the lows/low mids in a way I find my plug ins wont. You stop having notes poking out at you and it just gels into the mix way easier.

Plus it's all analog.

Still love the SVT for clean sounds though, sure beats a plain DI in most cases.

[quote=funkyhoney;18604161]So, basically your choices are a) standard, b) stupidly low, and c) incomprehensibly low?

Oh wow... how will I ever choose...

:thumb:[/quote]

The second is lower than the third (with C# being around 17Hz and E sitting at about 20Hz), but yes. I'm quite heavily leaning toward the E-F tuning, but I'm worried about how the low notes will sound on the fretless.

Yes please Joel, would appreciate some clips! :)

I've got an ART Tube mic preamp coming in the mail, hopefully by the end of this week. It'll get me by for vocal work until I can afford the coveted GAP Pre73 and I've heard it does a decent job of warming up the bass for DI-ing. Plus, at $40 shipped from Music123 (including a 2-year warranty), it was hard to say no.

By the way, fatbandit, what the hell is going on in London? Is it something you did?

anybody who thought rioting would be a good idea can suck my dick. there's police over my city 'just incase' it happens here too. fuck that shit.

[QUOTE=fatbandit;18608071]Yes please Joel, would appreciate some clips! :)[/QUOTE]

Whats your email?

chris6mm @ aol.com

[COLOR=Black][B]What is fucking wrong with people?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456065

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424
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My god, I think my IQ droppd 10 points listening to that second video.

Inorite. There are reasons the riots are happening. There is a lot of underlying unrest and unhappiness in a lot of the population right now, and this just seemed like a tipping point for it to be unleashed. But that doesn't make it okay. They all still have the choice not to put on their shit kicking shoes and leave the house, no matter how their situation makes them feel. I don't think it's the beginning of the end, I think it's a cyclical thing - look at what happened under Thatcher's government in Brixton 20 years ago? But there are a lot of people just copycat rioting, not understanding why, and just ruining their own cities. Take that audio clip - those two girls obviously don't understand why they're rioting. They said it was fun, and it was to show the police they can do what they want. Wait, what? And anyone who destroys a small independent business really has no understanding of the economic environment they want to try and take down. It makes me pretty angry!

Funnily, no book shops have been looted as far as I can tell, and neither have any Post Offices. Wouldn't want the benefits to stop would they...

Ah I see, I was wondering why this all started out of practically nowhere.

There's pretty much an underlying unrest and unhappiness with almost every government in the world right now, I don't think anyone is getting it right.

I say economically we wipe the slate clean (even though I know it won't work), start again with every country on zero debt. Realistically no government is going to pay back their debt, ever. Unless you tax the ass holes off of everyone then we'll be in this constant state of debt for the rest of eternity.

And while we're at it, lets take a zero of the cost of housing. Why is it that, probably the most necessary thing in everyone's life, shelter, puts you in debt for the next 25-50 years unless you happen to be very, very wealthy? I am currently with my partner saving for a house deposit. We almost have $8k and that has taken 9 months. Doing the rough maths it's going to take another 4-5 years (at our current savings amount per week) to get a 10% deposit. So for 4-5 years you save almost 50% of your paycheck, to then give that to a bank, only to be in 100% more debt than you spent 5 years saving for. Cut a zero off, and all that hard saving actually fucking pays off.

Again, this is completely half baked and would never work and everyone would be buying houses, it would eliminate the need for a bank essentially (if you don't need a loan to buy a house then all banks will close up), and the cost to actually build a house would need to fall and put a whole bunch of builders and contractors would basically lose their job.

Essentially, like petrol vs. electric cars, we have dug ourselves into graves in so many ways we can't make any change because it affects the bottom line. Electric cars would help the earth's atmosphere/environment, be cheaper to run, cost less to manufacture (therefore driving down the price of a car) and probably be more reliable. But because there is still so much money in oil, the "deciders" (i.e. the people with all the moolah) will strong arm anyone who tries to mass produce and market them.


Lol okay I don't know how I got on to all this, my main point is we are all fucked and there is nothing we can do about it.

I wouldn't say that countries are never going to pay back their debt. Look at Germany. It took them a while, but they recently finished paying off their World War I debt/reparations.

And you're right - that will never work. The global market is capitalistic and countries thrive on the debt of the masses.

The electric car isn't all it's cracked up to be. One has to consider more than just the bullet points. Like any rechargeable battery, it has a lifespan, and as it gets older, the charge becomes weaker, probably well before you ever hit the 100k miles (or the metric equivalent) that most petrol cars can run to before they start having problems, and battery replacements are ridiculously priced. The batteries require enough charging to almost offset the savings that you get from not fueling up. Then there is battery disposal, which is equally as bad for the environment as fuel emissions that are closely regulated. Also, what many electric car manufacturers don't tell you is that their vehicles still require oil to accelerate up to about 25 to 30 mph because the battery simply cannot produce the necessary power to accelerate 1+ tons as quickly as necessary to be safe in almost any traffic.

[quote=FunkMetalBass;18610592]I wouldn't say that countries are never going to pay back their debt. Look at Germany. It took them a while, but they recently finished paying off their World War I debt/reparations.

And you're right - that will never work. The global market is capitalistic and countries thrive on the debt of the masses.

The electric car isn't all it's cracked up to be. One has to consider more than just the bullet points. Like any rechargeable battery, it has a lifespan, and as it gets older, the charge becomes weaker, probably well before you ever hit the 100k miles (or the metric equivalent) that most petrol cars can run to before they start having problems, and battery replacements are ridiculously priced. The batteries require enough charging to almost offset the savings that you get from not fueling up. Then there is battery disposal, which is equally as bad for the environment as fuel emissions that are closely regulated. Also, what many electric car manufacturers don't tell you is that their vehicles still require oil to accelerate up to about 25 to 30 mph because the battery simply cannot produce the necessary power to accelerate 1+ tons as quickly as necessary to be safe in almost any traffic.[/quote]
Okay so I don't know much about electric/hybrid cars obviously :lol:

But my point still stays. And by time we are ready to mass produce these, someone will have figured away around it.

Also I assume that the batteries will be somewhat self powered, like how your car battery sort of charges itself as you use your car?

So lets say we all drive hybrids. Petrol is still needed, so it keeps the Texans happy. Oil should now be considered way more abundant compared to the previous demand. Which should technically lower the price? Then because everyone is driving hybrids the battery industry will go haywire and they will get mass produced for way cheap.

My real point is that until everyone is driving something more environmentally friendly, there's really no point in having these types of cars exist. Yeah sure one rich greenie might get one and think he is changing the world, but he isn't, it's just 1 grain of sand in the biggest desert in the universe.

[quote=Convectuoso;18610600]Okay so I don't know much about electric/hybrid cars obviously :lol:

But my point still stays. And by time we are ready to mass produce these, someone will have figured away around it.

Also I assume that the batteries will be somewhat self powered, like how your car battery sort of charges itself as you use your car?
[/quote]

I don't doubt that somebody will figure it out, but it's a hard technology to get to catch on in its current state. The electric car companies have a small, niche market to appeal to, and it's mainly of those who drive infrequently, short distances, are trying to "go green", and idiots buying into hype.

The problem with having any sort of alternator is that it still requires external power. If you want one to charge a battery-powered car, you'll probably need a normal gas tank just for that. I don't know the specifics, but that's my speculation.

[quote=Convectuoso;18610600]So lets say we all drive hybrids. Petrol is still needed, so it keeps the Texans happy. Oil should now be considered way more abundant compared to the previous demand. Which should technically lower the price? Then because everyone is driving hybrids the battery industry will go haywire and they will get mass produced for way cheap. [/quote]

Ideally, we want to keep a theoretical price P=1. Supply (S) and Demand (D) relate tot the price (in very simplistic terms) P=D/S. If one increases and the other cannot increase accordingly to maintain that price ratio of 1, then the price changes as well.

Unfortunately, economics isn't that simple. Oil requires manufacturing. All the oil companies have to do is downsize and manufacture less to decrease supply and maintain that price ratio. And, because it is a product that will continue to be necessity for a while, they can raise the price on oil to maintain necessary profit (not profit percentage). They have a market that can be more easily driven at their whim than the cars their products power.

[quote=Convectuoso;18610600]My real point is that until everyone is driving something more environmentally friendly, there's really no point in having these types of cars exist. Yeah sure one rich greenie might get one and think he is changing the world, but he isn't, it's just 1 grain of sand in the biggest desert in the universe.[/quote]

This.

3rd world countries need their debts wiping clean. They have been given unfair deals by developed countries.

[quote=fatbandit;18610836]3rd world countries need their debts wiping clean. They have been given unfair deals by developed countries.[/quote]
Wiping away the debt is a short-term solution because the debt will only accrue again. The problem with third-world countries is that they are usually unable to be entirely self-sufficient and don't produce much, if anything, that can translate to profit on the global market. Then you've got countries like Uganda that are constantly plagued by disease and civil unrest from terrorist organizations (namely, the LRA) that there's really nothing that can be done until the social status changes and the economy can be finally in a position to grow.


Why the fuck are we talking about serious shit? This is the bass forum.

Joel, have you ever used an isolation cabinet for recording? What do you think of them? I've been toying with the idea as it sounds like the quietest, most cost-effective way to record a guitar.

TBH no I haven't, I kinda don't trust them. I mean, I haven't really looked into them, but I would assume there would be a lot of phase issues within the box?

I would just use a blanket, or gobohs. Or once I get my Vox Guard I'd sort of fashion something out of that. Really I'm only worried about reflections, not so much noise. But I guess you want noise to be reduced?

Lol just get an Axe Fx, problem solved :P

[quote=Convectuoso;18611889]TBH no I haven't, I kinda don't trust them. I mean, I haven't really looked into them, but I would assume there would be a lot of phase issues within the box?

I would just use a blanket, or gobohs. Or once I get my Vox Guard I'd sort of fashion something out of that. Really I'm only worried about reflections, not so much noise. But I guess you want noise to be reduced?

Lol just get an Axe Fx, problem solved :P[/quote]

Most isolation cabs have a good amount of acoustic foam, so I can't see there being many issues with wave reflections and phasing. Mine would also contain only one speaker, so phase is even less of an issue.

I'd use it to isolate the noise - no outside into the mic, and no amp noise into other bedrooms (mine or the neighbors').

I guess the only pitfall is that I'll loose any of the room reverb, but I think I'd be okay without it.

[quote=FunkMetalBass;18611947]Most isolation cabs have a good amount of acoustic foam, so I can't see there being many issues with wave reflections and phasing. Mine would also contain only one speaker, so phase is even less of an issue.

I'd use it to isolate the noise - no outside into the mic, and no amp noise into other bedrooms (mine or the neighbors').

I guess the only pitfall is that I'll loose any of the room reverb, but I think I'd be okay without it.[/quote]
Trust me, any room you will be recording in that you want to block noise out to other peoples bedroom, the acoustics are probably not worth having a room mic.

Just chuck a 57 on it and be done with it ;)

Also would you be placing a mic permanently in there? Or making it so you can adjust the mic placement?