Whenever I have the cash I still buy albums so I don't care. They still get the same amount of money whether I download or not. I do only like to buy albums I feel are worth it though. Some albums you just know are worth buying.

[QUOTE=satchforever]:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maynard doesn't believe in God, so one could assume he doesn't believe in Satan either. The album doesn't even have any cursing on it. Make your dad listen to it over and over until he sees the brilliance. Wait, than he wouldn't give it back to you either. hah.[/QUOTE]
Maynard never said he didn't believe in God.

[QUOTE=Mr Herb][url]http://www.pluggedinonline.com/music/music/a0000926.cfm[/url]


Dude with dad that says tool is satanic, show that to your dad![/QUOTE]

Taken from that site:

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]As if inspired by Matthew 18:21-22, "The Grudge" urges listeners to forgive others.[/QUOTE]
Wishful thinking.

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]Angry at human parasites, a man berates them on "Ticks and Leeches" [B](once using the f-word)[/B] and hopes they suffer for the pain they’ve caused.[/QUOTE]
Where?

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]The music remains foreboding, but Tool’s lyrics have brightened considerably since 1996’s Ænima.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]Nevertheless, Lateralus]marks a dramatic improvement for the act that has Ticketmaster using a stopwatch to see how long it takes them to sell out concerts (three minutes in Atlanta; [B]sixty seconds[/B] in New York).[/QUOTE]
Holy sh[font=]i[/font]t!!

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]Pray that, in the musicians’ search for truth, God sharpens Tool.[/QUOTE]
That pissed me off. I "pray" that people stop rubbing religion in the faces of others.

[QUOTE=Moses]Maynard never said he didn't believe in God.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure?

[QUOTE=Sliptallica] Some albums you just know are worth buying.[/QUOTE]
Leviathan :thumb:

[QUOTE=satchforever]Are you sure?[/QUOTE]

Yes. He may say "**** your god" or somthing like that but he never said he didn't believe in a god. For all we know he could be a Christian.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]Taken from that site:


Wishful thinking.


Where?


Agreed.


Holy sh[font=]i[/font]t!!


That pissed me off. I "pray" that people stop rubbing religion in the faces of others.[/QUOTE]


Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

I'm young and get around alot so I see all these religions people
try to force on other people and it's pissed me off to the point of
wanting to never come back...if that makes sense

My mom is the worst about it everyone she meets she has to pursacute*
and rub her religion in there face's

I got to get that cd back!

I can kinda see why he might not like undertow with some of the stuff one there
but if that's the case why not just take undertow?

Britt, you should tell your dad why he thinks tool is satanic.

Tool is actually against what his father wants though because his father wants to make him into a right-wing christian. Nothings wrong with being one but it's the individual's decision. Tool is about choosing your own path and his father wants him to follow his.

Here's a nice Zappa quote: "I made a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get whiter?". Another one: "There are more love songs than anyother kind. If music could take control, we'd all love one another".

Tool? Not Satanic in the least. They are a great band with a message of: 'Think for Yourself, Question Authority.' Ask your father why he thinks that particular album is Satanic. There is virtually no cursing (the F-Bomb in Ticks and Leeches is hard to pick out at the first listen, but you can), although Ænema makes up for any swearing since.

There are no Satanic themes:

[B]The Grudge:[/B] Forgiveness.

[B]Eon Blue Apocalypse:[/B] The end of something (I believe).

[B]The Patient:[/B] Patience is a virtue in any relationship.

[B]Mantra:[/B] Monotany and Boring Repetition.

[B]Schism:[/B] Rift in a relationship, longing to reunite.

[B]Parabol/Parabola:[/B] Love, the feeling of euphoria.

[B]Ticks and Leeches:[/B] Facing demons.

[B]Lateralus(is):[/B] Spiritual ascendancy, spiritual truth

[B]D/R/T:[/B] A change/casting away your old, shallow self/reaped rewards.

[B]Fiaap de Oiad:[/B] Ultimate truth.

End of discussion.

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Tool? Not Satanic in the least. They are a great band with a message of: 'Think for Yourself, Question Authority.' Ask your father why he thinks that particular album is Satanic. There is virtually no cursing (the F-Bomb in Ticks and Leeches is hard to pick out at the first listen, but you can), although Ænema makes up for any swearing since.

There are no Satanic themes:

[B]The Grudge:[/B] Forgiveness.

[B]Eon Blue Apocalypse:[/B] The end of something (I believe).

[B]The Patient:[/B] Patience is a virtue in any relationship.

[B]Mantra:[/B] Monotany and Boring Repetition.

[B]Schism:[/B] Rift in a relationship, longing to reunite.

[B]Parabol/Parabola:[/B] Love, the feeling of euphoria.

[B]Ticks and Leeches:[/B] Facing demons.

[B]Lateralus(is):[/B] Spiritual ascendancy, spiritual truth

[B]D/R/T:[/B] A change/casting away your old, shallow self/reaped rewards.

[B]Fiaap de Oiad:[/B] Ultimate truth.

End of discussion.[/QUOTE]



I really like your view on Lateralus.

Thank you....I was planning on writing an essay for it if I needed to for English class or something, but I don't think that'd pan out well, considering I kinda suck at intepretations.

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Thank you....I was planning on writing an essay for it if I needed to for English class or something, but I don't think that'd pan out well, considering I kinda suck at intepretations.[/QUOTE]


Eon Blue always struck me as a memento to someone or something.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Eon Blue always struck me as a memento to someone.[/QUOTE]

It is named after a Tool chat room...so....maybe they're telling the fanboys to get the **** off the Internet and do something.

I like your avatar...that looks like Ike Barinholtz from MadTV, but I probably am wrong.

****, that show kinda sucks.

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]It is named after a Tool chat room...so....maybe they're telling the fanboys to get the **** off the Internet and do something.

I like your avatar...that looks like Ike Barinholtz from MadTV, but I probably am wrong.

****, that show kinda sucks.[/QUOTE]


Its in the usertitle its a guy from red dwarf his name is lister.

I want to go back to my tr00 avatar though.

What is your tr00 avatar?

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]What is your tr00 avatar?[/QUOTE]


Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger album cover good album good avatar.

Haha....anywho, what do you want to talk about now? The new album, Blair's degrees of asshatness, bowel movements, drunken sheep, it's really your call.......

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Haha....anywho, what do you want to talk about now? The new album, Blair's degrees of asshatness, bowel movements, drunken sheep, it's really your call.......[/QUOTE]
Well I feel sorry for the way blair gets treated he really cant say a word because he risks his job badly.


I have no clue when the new album is gonna be out if it is a double disc I had a theory that I probably am still gonna stick beside.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]Well I feel sorry for the way blair gets treated he really cant say a word because he risks his job badly.

I have no clue when the new album is gonna be out if it is a double disc I had a theory that I probably am still gonna stick beside.[/QUOTE]

He does catch a lot of flack, and I understand he does this stuff for a reason, but it's downright irritating sometimes.

As for the album, well...........I hope it's longer than Lateralus, it very well could be a double disc....we'll see.

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]He does catch a lot of flack, and I understand he does this stuff for a reason, but it's downright irritating sometimes.

As for the album, well...........I hope it's longer than Lateralus, it very well could be a double disc....we'll see.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the "official" thing said it would be about the moon so I though one disc the sun the other the moon, cool?

I don't think there's really anything else to say at this point. Once the new album comes, it'll be a madhouse, but for now, we just have to wait.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I don't think there's really anything else to say at this point. Once the new album comes, it'll be a madhouse, but for now, we just have to wait.[/QUOTE]


We have been over everything and sucked everything dry.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]We have been over everything and sucked everything dry.[/QUOTE]
We're just Ticks & Leeches :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=One Groovin Clown]We're just Ticks & Leeches[/QUOTE]

Some say that was the reason the song was written, fans have sucked the band dry.

I really love the vibe from the Album ''Opiate''. God I want more albums with a vibe like that! :thumb: Hush ftw

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Some say that was the reason the song was written, fans have sucked the band dry.[/QUOTE]
we'll we have analyzed EVERY single word out of each of their songs. The slightest clue about new information will set us all into a frenzy, i think you have it right :p

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Tool? Not Satanic in the least. They are a great band with a message of: 'Think for Yourself, Question Authority.' Ask your father why he thinks that particular album is Satanic. There is virtually no cursing (the F-Bomb in Ticks and Leeches is hard to pick out at the first listen, but you can), although Ænema makes up for any swearing since.

There are no Satanic themes:

[B]The Grudge:[/B] Forgiveness.

[B]Eon Blue Apocalypse:[/B] The end of something (I believe).

[B]The Patient:[/B] Patience is a virtue in any relationship.

[B]Mantra:[/B] Monotany and Boring Repetition.

[B]Schism:[/B] Rift in a relationship, longing to reunite.

[B]Parabol/Parabola:[/B] Love, the feeling of euphoria.

[B]Ticks and Leeches:[/B] Facing demons.

[B]Lateralus(is):[/B] Spiritual ascendancy, spiritual truth

[B]D/R/T:[/B] A change/casting away your old, shallow self/reaped rewards.

[B]Fiaap de Oiad:[/B] Ultimate truth.

End of discussion.[/QUOTE]

I have pretty much the exact same view on Lateralus as you do.

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Tool? Not Satanic in the least. They are a great band with a message of: 'Think for Yourself, Question Authority.' Ask your father why he thinks that particular album is Satanic. There is virtually no cursing (the F-Bomb in Ticks and Leeches is hard to pick out at the first listen, but you can), although Ænema makes up for any swearing since.

There are no Satanic themes:

[B]The Grudge:[/B] Forgiveness.

[B]Eon Blue Apocalypse:[/B] The end of something (I believe).

[B]The Patient:[/B] Patience is a virtue in any relationship.

[B]Mantra:[/B] Monotany and Boring Repetition.

[B]Schism:[/B] Rift in a relationship, longing to reunite.

[B]Parabol/Parabola:[/B] Love, the feeling of euphoria.

[B]Ticks and Leeches:[/B] Facing demons.

[B]Lateralus(is):[/B] Spiritual ascendancy, spiritual truth

[B]D/R/T:[/B] A change/casting away your old, shallow self/reaped rewards.

[B]Fiaap de Oiad:[/B] Ultimate truth.

End of discussion.[/QUOTE]

Very vague descriptions, yet concise. As for the whole Lateralus being satanic topic, let us keep in mind that Schism has direct ties to The Great Schism formed between Catholic and Protestant branches of Christianity. That is where the term "schism' came from in the first place, wasn't it? How is writing a song about Christianity Satanic?

Oh well, glad to see you got the album back, as it's one of the greatest albums ever conceived.

[b]Jake's realization on the new album[/b]
Well, not so much a realization, but more of a in-progress theory- From what i learned from speculation, Maynard and the rest of Tool perhaps have a thing for the Pagan concepts involving yin and yang- Opposites attracting to form a supreme being. Eg. Parabol/a is a 2 part song- The intro being quiet, the rest being heavy, and also the song sounds like it could be about sex, the 'ultimate union of 2.'

The rumors of the album being about light and dark seem to tie in well here.

Just a thought/topic starter

Listen to these tracks in this order on Lateralus and you'll see that it is darker than the rest of the albums.


Schism
Eon Blue Apacalypse
The Patient
Parabol (not Parabola)
Ticks and Leeches
D/R/T
The Grudge