[QUOTE=~grif~]Piling on problems on you thinking about you're dad latley will get you real down, as it has.
Maybe you should put you're dads death aside for a while. Just dont think about it or try not to. Or put the other problems aside...take one at a time i suggest.

Relax.[/QUOTE]


Ya. Relax. Thats always been hard for me to do for anything. Im always worrying or something. But lately i have found out that i dont need other people to be happy. it comes from inside my self.

thats deep, just take a break from whatever your doing, listen to some music, or go for a jog and try to clear you r head

[QUOTE=Destined_for]Ya. Relax. Thats always been hard for me to do for anything. Im always worrying or something. But lately i have found out that i dont need other people to be happy. it comes from inside my self.[/QUOTE]
I donno if you smoke or anything. Not that it has anything to do with this...

but going to somewhere beutiful sitting there and breathing it all in, a beautiful view or anything.
you dont even have to go alone, just go with a friend or girlfriend or whatever - nothign has to be said - just lie there and look around you, relax, look at the sky or sit out at night and stare at the stars

take a break - it clears you're mind, gives you time to think about things.

i live on the coast so i usually sit on the side of a cliff or by the beach or something...dono about you.

[QUOTE=~grif~]I donno if you smoke or anything. Not that it has anything to do with this...

but going to somewhere beutiful sitting there and breathing it all in, a beautiful view or anything.
you dont even have to go alone, just go with a friend or girlfriend or whatever - nothign has to be said - just lie there and look around you, relax, look at the sky or sit out at night and stare at the stars

take a break - it clears you're mind, gives you time to think about things.

i live on the coast so i usually sit on the side of a cliff or by the beach or something...dono about you.[/QUOTE]


I live by lots of mountains. I would like to get up there more and take a walk and listne to some cold chilling black metal but i havent had the chance. I used to smoke but i stopped. I should go with my gf though. I would love that.

This is a conversation I had with a m8 through email tonight. He has love problems, he is trying to find love, he is good with women and stuff, but latley he is getting nowhere - he is stoned, he is sad and feels rejected.
what do ye think?
[quote=John Says]
What is love? Love is when one person knows all of your secrets... your deepest, darkest, most dreadful secrets of which no one else in the world knows... and yet in the end, that one person does not think any less of you; even if the rest of the world does. Someone to make my faults redundant, transparent. Not to find the person I can spend the rest of my life with, but, to spend it the person who I can’t live without. I want only that someone will need me. To bring the recurring desires of their mind to me, every time they emerge. They cannot shock me, because I’ll love them! Bring me your confusion, your fear, your craving, your anxiety, your inability to love the world, your hesitation to serve, your jealousy, your addiction, your insecurities’, all the deficiencies that defy your sanity. The most terrible poverty is loneliness, and the emotion of being unloved and most of us feel it everyday. Right now. Love is when you render yourself vulnerable and still want her, it's when she ignores you and you still want her, it's when she loves another prick but you still smile and say I'm happy for you, when all you really do is scream. Love ****ing burns, and the stronger the flame the deeper the scar. Its easy to get pissed off when you realize everyone you love will eventually reject you and die. So what is happiness? I can’t believe simply that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have. It can’t be that simple. I believe this because I’m greedy, a prick, a selfish self pitying dickhead. Maybe there is only one true happiness in this life, to love and be loved. Mutually. Ironically I’ve come to the conclusion that the person we love and the person who loves us is very rarely going to be the same person. I mean, we can’t all be so lucky, Maybe unhappiness can simply be defined as not knowing who we want to love but nearly killing ourselves to trying to find out. However, Man can only endure a certain degree of unhappiness; what is beyond that either annihilates him or passes by him and leaves him apathetic, sullen, and again, a selfish self pitying dickhead. [/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
Talking about love as if to say its something so complicated when really it can be just so easy.
Some people define love as being this one person, one in a million, you're soul mate that you can talk to for the rest of you're life without having the knowing fact that it will end because you love that one person so much that they love you just as much back.
The greeks had a definition of love, or the meaning of it - it goes something like, you are born together as one, you are sepereated and all you're life you have this emptyness in you that is this one you are missing, and when you find it you feel whole again, you have found you're "soul mate" - you're love...
I dont believe that man, there can be so many people you can fall in love with, one greater then the next, you just havent met them yet. There are always more then one.
You talk about it as if it will never happen, when patience will take its toll and you will find that girl you arent even thinking about right now. [/quote]
[quote=John says]
I dunno, I'm tired, stoned and all i want is to curl up to someone and sleep. I agree with you, love isnt a noun, its a verb. But I mean, there's no guarantee that we’ll live happily ever after, no assurance that everything will be alright, no promise its going to turn out nice and dandy! All thats left is this scary unknown. I mean, as i was asking before Why does the rest of the world put up with the hypocrisy, the need to put a happy face on sorrow, the need to keep on keeping on? I don’t know the answer; I know only that I can’t. I don't want any more bull****, I don't want any more of this try, try again stuff. I just want out of this train of thinking and this way of living. I’ve had it. I am so tired. I am 18 and I am already exhausted of hearing all this ****! [/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
If we didnt put a happy face on sorrow, if we didnt keep on keeping on, we'd get nowhere. We'd finish with this first love and frown about it for the rest of our days because we didnt keep on, keeping on.
Getting over it, moving on and finding someone else is what we all do because we know if we kept up with the one before we'd never break away from the fact shes always on you're mind - so we find someone new, someone better, a better lover a better friend just to block out that one before. For better or for worse.
If you wanna find someone to love, to hold and to wake up beside every morning, ya gotta go beyond the people we know because it will end up in one big circle.
Plenty of fish in the sea they say. Women arent fish though..
[/quote]
[quote=John says]
Some of them smell like them...
What your saying, keep going, I mean, everytime were rejected it leaves a scar and no matter how much happiness we find we always have the memory that for that immediate instant, some girls eyes have told you that you simply not good enough. Your inadequate. Loving is a feeling that brings both joy and pain to my heart. Joy from being with someone, being filled with an emotion so deep and tender that no other feeling can compare. Pain from knowing that I'm so in love, that I'm more vulnerable than I've ever been. I mean your life in someones hands. People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bull****. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry!
You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain. To feel loved or unloved.
I'm way too stoned for this...
[/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
feel love and feel that pain. We are all human, men feel pain and have that dreadful feeling of being let down rejected or unloved surprisingly. Its nature as you said one time, that we have to be the alpha male - to be the stronger one and to not look weak - but when it comes to something like love, we crumble like a biscuit. We may not show it but its there - women may not realise it but its there.
To have scars that noone is to see is something we hold close to ourselves and rather not share.
Knowing we have scars from past lovers or rejection from someone you feel so great about and to share it with someone we would not.
Unless we are pissed drunk, off our face...or stoned.[/quote]
[quote=John says]
If this life was a drama, a play, a stage proformance...i'd have walked out an hour ago. Guess it's the whole half empty half full dispute. Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. But anyway....****, i can't remember what my point was, I always ****ing do this!! oh ye, what happens when you fight for love? My mind tells me to give up, but my heart won't let me. There's no guarantee the ends will justify the means.[/quote]
[quote=Kevin says]
always go with you're heart.
Because no matter how terrible, or great it turns out - you know you did what was in you're heart, what you wanted. Not because you were told not to, or told you couldnt, but because it was in you're heart - that made you take that decision, act on it - and see the outcome. Knowing that you tried rather then not trying, and wondering what if.
Sounds all too cliché - but its always worth a shot.
Walking out on life, and you'll miss the big fight, the drama and the twists, the romantic scene and the big finish. Nothing comes to you on a plate laced with gold - working at something you want in you're heart, will prove you to be the better, bigger man.
Its 4:30am.
im going for a smoke.
[/quote]

So Julia just left my house. When she first got here we were at the computer and I craftily worked my way to her myspace. I was like "hey look at this comment, who is Nathan?" She said "Oh he's funny, he's one of my good friends" So I decided it wasn't a big deal. Shortly after we moved to my basement, Nathan called her. She didn't answer and I asked why she didn't pick up. She said cause I'm with you. So again I thought, alright this seems good. Then her friend, thats on her volleyball team, called her. Julia had a volleyball tournament all day, and she visited Nathan because he lives out by where the tournament was. I could hear her friend talking, and she said did you do anything with that guy. And then Julia said, "are you drunk, I dont know what youre talking about" And then she looked at me, and I was asked, "did you do anything with him." Then she said, "no i didn't do anything with him." I want to believe her, but past experiences with other girls makes me skeptical. I'm going to talk to her more online about it soon. I would have talked to her face to face about it, but she had to pick her sister up and take her home. If anyone wants, I'll tell you how our next conversation goes.

[QUOTE=~grif~]It would give you time to relax, dont listen to music while you are up there - just listen to whats around you, pick a spot and sit.
Dont talk - and when you want to - just let it out.

You will feel better, and with you're girlfriend, im sure shed be there to understand.

best of luck anyway..[/QUOTE]


Thanks :thumb:

Hi guys.

*damn I say*

I missed a lot today...errands and cleaning took up my time...but advice is flowing freely...so...

Hi guys.

btw, you guys rock.
:)

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi guys.

*damn I say*

I missed a lot today...errands and cleaning took up my time...but advice is flowing freely...so...

Hi guys.

btw, you guys rock.
:)[/QUOTE]


Hey Kimmie. Hows it going?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi guys.

*damn I say*

I missed a lot today...errands and cleaning took up my time...but advice is flowing freely...so...

Hi guys.

btw, you guys rock.
:)[/QUOTE]
Oh you:)

:chug:

Jon: I got a ton accomplished today...cleaning, shopping, etc. You?


dazmo: Good job on the advice. You're good.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Jon: I got a ton accomplished today...cleaning, shopping, etc. You?


dazmo: Good job on the advice. You're good.[/QUOTE]



Well today let me think.....my step dad came over and fixed my computer for 6 hours because it crashed. Then i spent the rest of the day re-ripping cds into my computer since i lost all my music on there. and im still ripping them on there right now. And in the middle of that around (4:00) i watched shaun of the dead and watched the new harry potter.

lol, today i was pretty crappy:p

Oh btw how many of you knew wizard's name was Damien?

[QUOTE=dazmo]lol, today i was pretty crappy:p

Oh btw how many of you knew wizard's name was Damien?[/QUOTE]


haha i didnt. Thats a awsome name haha.

So, uh, Kristen told me she loved me today and asked me if I love her, and i said no. She just looked at me like I was a monster then started crying. Then she got a friend to take her home. I felt like crap and came home. I was only gone for like 45 minutes, damnit.

What the hell was her problem? I'm supposedly going to see her again tomorrow, but she hasn't talked to me all day.

Damn, I was trying to have fun with her to avoid any more drama. :p

Uhg, Jon that sucks. But I got the DVD of "Walk The Line" today, so I'm gonna watch it tomorrow...


dazmo: I've always know Damien's name...

"pretty crappy" means what?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Uhg, Jon that sucks. But I got the DVD of "Walk The Line" today, so I'm gonna watch it tomorrow...


dazmo: I've always know Damien's name...

"pretty crappy" means what?[/QUOTE]



I rented that movie a few days ago. I watched it with my mom. Its a great movie. Im so tired!!!!! and i dont want to go to bed yet because im still riping cds!!!! ugh!!!!

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Uhg, Jon that sucks. But I got the DVD of "Walk The Line" today, so I'm gonna watch it tomorrow...


dazmo: I've always know Damien's name...

"pretty crappy" means what?[/QUOTE]

pretty crappy advice, today i was being lazy. My name is Damien too, and some one said b4 "just get over her Damien" and i was like "WTF?!?!?!"

:p

Whoa, so now there's four Damiens around MX.

ok theres u, me, damien rhodes and???

I am Damien Rhodes man. There's me, you, Magictroll over in R&M, and some kid in Punk that I ran into awhile ago. I don't remember his username.

I wonder if there is any more? :eek:

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I am Damien Rhodes man. There's me, you, Magictroll over in R&M, and some kid in Punk that I ran into awhile ago. I don't remember his username.

I wonder if there is any more? :eek:[/QUOTE]


Im not. My name is Jon.

There's way too many John's and variations around here.

[QUOTE=Tillius]Of course you should.

I mean, does she know how you feel yet? If not, that could change things completely if she found out, because there's always the possibility of her feeling the same.[/QUOTE]

I took 'soon-to-be' to mean that she is asking someone out and is damn sure they'll say yes. She barely knows me (I just have a big attraction to her), so yeah there's no possibility that she feels the same.

Worst thing is that I'm on school holidays now, so I have to wait 2 weeks to see her again and see what happens (unless I get her MSN addy somehow).

Thanks though.

how do you guys show a girl attention and affection? mine says i dont show her enough attention or affection. what should i do to make her feel spesh?

[QUOTE=~grif~]This is a conversation I had with a m8 through email tonight. He has love problems, he is trying to find love, he is good with women and stuff, but latley he is getting nowhere - he is stoned, he is sad and feels rejected.
what do ye think?[/QUOTE]

I don't know whether to call you dudes incredibly deep or heinously stoned! Interesting stuff there, a good read. I... might try to properly understand it in the morning.

[QUOTE=bodger]how do you guys show a girl attention and affection? mine says i dont show her enough attention or affection. what should i do to make her feel spesh?[/QUOTE]
Just be sappy. Girls like sappy cliche s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it. Just hold her hand and kiss her in public and stuff. Usually when girls say that it's 'cause the guy hangs out with friends and stuff more than the girl.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]Just be sappy. Girls like sappy cliche s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it. Just hold her hand and kiss her in public and stuff.[/QUOTE]
Yikes. No girl I know would like that. I think it's an age thing. You young kids are all about PDA's and sappy stuff cos it's a way to show off you have a gf (or bf). I hate couples who are always touching and kissing in public.

Yeah, I guess it applies to younger crowds. But that's true for any girl I've ever been with.

I wouldn't know what to do if I actually got a girl with some maturity. Haha.

[QUOTE=Jonzey]Yikes. No girl I know would like that. I think it's an age thing. You young kids are all about PDA's and sappy stuff cos it's a way to show off you have a gf (or bf). I hate couples who are always touching and kissing in public.[/QUOTE]

I think it ok to an extent. I enjoy holding my bfs hand occasionally for a couple minutes, or the odd peck on the cheek - But making out and groping just draws the line.

I was in a bus shelter at 9am the other day outside of school, and these 2 kids (14, 15 years old) started making out. I was so appaulled, 9AM for fu[size=1]ck[/size]s sake. All I said was "EW, thats fuc[size=1]ck[/size]ing gross. Its 9AM, I dont want to watch you and your gf make out 2 inches from my face."

But yes, PDA = good in small doses/nothing extreme - no toungue/grope.

Eek, I'm not talking about getting it on with the girl in public. I'm talking about litle quick kisses, not sticking your tongue down her throat. That annoys the hell out of me too.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]Eek, I'm not talking about getting it on with the girl in public. I'm talking about litle quick kisses, not sticking your tongue down her throat. That annoys the hell out of me too.[/QUOTE]

Well Im glad we are on the same page! :)

So how are you feeling today about everything, Wizard? (sorry I have seemed to forget your first name :$)

I hope you are doing well, Ive been reading your posts, and although I have yet to reply to any of them, it seems like you are/were in quite the pickle :(

Guys that are really touchy feely all the time annoy me. I mean holding hands for various amounts of time is fine and a quick kiss sure... but anything more than that in public is a bit OTT. My mate was going out with a guy a few months back and a load of us went to chill in the local park. They were all over each other, she had straddled him and I don't think they came up for air for about 20mins. That was a little bit too much.

[QUOTE=purplefeet]Well Im glad we are on the same page! :)

So how are you feeling today about everything, Wizard? (sorry I have seemed to forget your first name :$)

I hope you are doing well, Ive been reading your posts, and although I have yet to reply to any of them, it seems like you are/were in quite the pickle :([/QUOTE]
Hah, I'm fine. I'm actually pretty happy now. Not sure why. <.<

Btw, my name is Damien. I should start posting on my other account. I'm not sure why I'm using this one anymore.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]Hah, I'm fine. I'm actually pretty happy now. Not sure why. <.<

Btw, my name is Damien. I should start posting on my other account. I'm not sure why I'm using this one anymore.[/QUOTE]


Well Im glad to hear that :)

What was your other account :$ Damien Rhodes? (if i remember that from a few posts up)

[QUOTE=Werny]I don't know whether to call you dudes incredibly deep or heinously stoned! Interesting stuff there, a good read. I... might try to properly understand it in the morning.[/QUOTE]
no i wasnt stoned, he was - and was opening up. :lol:

Hi, my kids.

I had totally crappy weather yesterday (snow and stuff around us) but today is looking good. I'm waiting for a friend to get here then it's motorcycle ride time.

How is everyone?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi, my kids.

I had totally crappy weather yesterday (snow and stuff around us) but today is looking good. I'm waiting for a friend to get here then it's motorcycle ride time.

How is everyone?[/QUOTE]
Hi Kim,

Its pretty foggy dark and dull out here in Ireland, suits the current mood lol.

Im good - spent all night talking to a m8 about "love" if you read it back on the previous page.

Have fun :chug:

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Hi, my kids.

I had totally crappy weather yesterday (snow and stuff around us) but today is looking good. I'm waiting for a friend to get here then it's motorcycle ride time.

How is everyone?[/QUOTE]

im in a good mood right now :) Listening to some new amazing music (dredg's El Cielo) And I don't know why.. just am. VERY nice out the past two days (sunny and 50 degree highs!!!) but this week will be more cloudy and chilly.. spring is just coming up though!

hope your doing well! :)

Not bad. I guess this weekend was the start of bike season. When I was walking home from the barbers, I counted 12 people out on their bikes, with 2 others parked.

What kinda bike are you going to be riding? I always wanted a Harley V-Rod *drools*