[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I specifically said not musically speaking. All your examples are about musical difference. The Beatles had a magazine they published, were worshipped by little girls, their concerts weren't actually musical events so much as people being like, "omg, leyk, teh beatles lololol!!" much like Backstreet Boys concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, including their early stuff, but I fail to see how people can argue that they weren't essentially a boy band up until around Rubber Soul.[/QUOTE]

I know you love the Beatles and i dont mean to sound like i'm having a go at you but the Beatles were definatly not a boy band, They were the start of the end of boy bands as they were one of the few groups at that time who wrote their own lyrics (rather then have a lyric writer write lyrics for them).
They made their music theirselves.
They did not dance (as such) on stage.
Sure alot of there songs had lyrics about boys and girls and love but so did many bands in that era.

thats all i have to say.

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]I know you love the Beatles and i dont mean to sound like i'm having a go at you but the Beatles were definatly not a boy band, They were the start of the end of boy bands as they were one of the few groups at that time who wrote their own lyrics (rather then have a lyric writer write lyrics for them).
They made their music theirselves.
They did not dance (as such) on stage.
Sure alot of there songs had lyrics about boys and girls and love but so did many bands in that era.

thats all i have to say.[/QUOTE]

I got with an argument with one of my friends at school about that today. Its true in their early days but there is NO boy band that would later put out political music, and if the did they would stop the second the lost popularity because of it, but not the Beatles.

There were plenty of other groups around during the Beatles' early years that were much much more a boy band then they were. The Beatles, except for people like Bob Dylan and stuff, were the least boy-bandish until like 64-65.

Somthing that pisses me off is that people who don't listen to the Beatles always thing of their fab four days instead of their political rock band days.

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Somthing that pisses me off is that people who don't listen to the Beatles always thing of their fab four days instead of their political rock band days.[/QUOTE]


I know this one girl I used to be friends with who was listening to "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" saying "This **** is so gay, man!"

Don't you love girls who act like 7th grade boys?

Guys who like Beatles > Guys who don't like Beatles.
(I am female, if it matters)

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I know this one girl I used to be friends with who was listening to "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" saying "This **** is so gay, man!"[/QUOTE]

Yeah - a man and a woman, together - that's so gay!

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Guys who like Beatles > Guys who don't like Beatles.
(I am female, if it matters)[/QUOTE]
psh. you want me. its obvious.

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I know this one girl I used to be friends with who was listening to "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" saying "This **** is so gay, man!"

Don't you love girls who act like 7th grade boys?

Guys who like Beatles > Guys who don't like Beatles.
(I am female, if it matters)[/QUOTE]

Yea man I mean people need to take the Beatles for what they are and in time all of their songs, even the pop ones, will grow on you.

I love their music. All of it. Although I don't think they really got all that political.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I love their music. All of it. Although I don't think they really got all that political.[/QUOTE]

Yea but there political songs have had such an impact on me (and I'm sure others). I mean when John (or any of them) is singing about polotics everything just seems to sort of make sense and is so simple a child could understand it, but so complex that those without a free mind won't understand.

I think of the Early Beatles as a boy band, but definitely not in the contemporary sense.

Boybandish aspects:
Sang boy-girl songs almost exclusively
Merchandising (magazine etc)
Most fans teenage girls
Enormously Populat

Unboybandish aspects:
Played own instruments
Most songs played were original (at the time most bands did covers almost exclusively)
Drug use (towards the end of Early Beatles period)
Did not use stage theatrics

I definitely think (and believe most people would agree) that they had ceased to be a boy band when they stopped touring. They still maintained some pop elements (esp. Paul's songs) but took on a totally new direction (esp. John's songs).

Every band has merchandise, Most bands have sung songs about boys and girls and i think its unfair to class the beatles as a Boy Band because of their fans and their popularity to me they have always been a Rock band.

I dont think the Beatles ever got super politcal, i can only think of a few songs that i'd consider "Political" (Revolution 1 and i guess All you Need is Love, also The Ballard of John and Yoko)

I think one of john lennon's best political songs was "Gimme some truth"

Question: Are there anyother singers that you can think of that make political songs meaniful to you, or have and effect on you?

for me only: Liam Gallagher, Noel Gallagher and John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Roger Dawltry

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]psh. you want me. its obvious.[/QUOTE]


ooh, you got me there :lol:

let it be is my fav hey jude!

Tom Gabel of Against Me! writes great political lyrics.

white album all the way biotch

I just got HELP! last night. It is so good! I was afraid of it being like "Beatles For Sale" which was a little dissapointing. I love "I Need You"(Harrison's first masterpeice?) and "I've Just Seen A Face"(Bluegrassy :D). I guess now I have the all of their albums

I don't have all the Beatles albums yet

[QUOTE=blue3]I don't have all the Beatles albums yet[/QUOTE]

Which ones do you have?

[QUOTE=Med57] I'd say Nicky Wire and Richey Edwards of The Manic Street Preachers write, or wrote, some really excellent political lyrics, especially on their earlier songs[/QUOTE]
this is true. manic street preachers are awesome about that. my favorite song by them is ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayitsworldwouldfallapart.

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]Every band has merchandise, Most bands have sung songs about boys and girls and i think its unfair to class the beatles as a Boy Band because of their fans and their popularity to me they have always been a Rock band.

I dont think the Beatles ever got super politcal, i can only think of a few songs that i'd consider "Political" (Revolution 1 and i guess All you Need is Love, also The Ballard of John and Yoko)[/QUOTE]

They have much more political songs then that, those are just the songs that are straight up political. I think a lot of their other stuff when interperted, is very political.

I mean there stuff was also political in the sense that a lot of it is about everybody living in peace and how we are all one.

I don't think so... I just never really think of the Beatles as a political band.

I guess they wern't, but all and all their lyrics have a lot of themes of peace, and a lot of morals that should be listened to more carfully, and I guess I think of those themes of peace as political because you have to get rid of war to have peace, though I am probally thinking too much into it.

I have a question about some lyrics I have heard rumors that in the song "I Am The Walurs" the eggman refers to Eric Burdon of the Animals and later War because he had some fetish with cracking raw eggs on his sex partener, but I also know John Lennon has been known for writing lyrics just so people will make up crazy ideas about what they mean. Any one know anything about this?

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]I have a question about some lyrics I have heard rumors that in the song "I Am The Walurs" the eggman refers to Eric Burdon of the Animals and later War because he had some fetish with cracking raw eggs on his sex partener, but I also know John Lennon has been known for writing lyrics just so people will make up crazy ideas about what they mean. Any one know anything about this?[/QUOTE]

That may be it, I may be wrong but I also think thats a line from Hamelet, and depending on how you interpet the song it fits.

I think it's just Lennon trying to confuse people.

Yea I love I am the Walrus. It has so many meanings, and so many means to different people. What I love about the Beatles lyrics is they seem to be written in a way where the song means somthing different to different people. Most of the Beatles songs have a very deep and personal meaning to me.

Gimme Some Truth has gotta be the greatest 'political' song of all time. Its the second best song on Imagine (next to Imagine, naturally).

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Gimme Some Truth has gotta be the greatest 'political' song of all time. Its the second best song on Imagine (next to Imagine, naturally).[/QUOTE]

I love Imagine. I have trouble listening to it I mean here you have this guy describing a world that he wanted to create, a world where everything is perfect, and he was murdered. I know the person who shot him was insane, and didn't know what he was doing, and I forgive him for it, but it really does represent how the phrase "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" is not true. Those who fight against the sword die by the sword.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]I have a question about some lyrics I have heard rumors that in the song "I Am The Walurs" the eggman refers to Eric Burdon of the Animals and later War because he had some fetish with cracking raw eggs on his sex partener, but I also know John Lennon has been known for writing lyrics just so people will make up crazy ideas about what they mean. Any one know anything about this?[/QUOTE]

i dont think that rumour is true.

the first and posibly secound verse of I am the Walrus is a nursery rhyme jumbled up, i think the nursery rhyme might of been something like:

"Add a drip of yellow matter custard and then throw in a dead dogs eye......"

I think John was high when he wrote the song, so some if it is not suppose to make sense, they are just words he picked because they were coming out of his head, and he felt the individual would be able to add their own interpetation of it. But some lines like "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together" are just brillent and say so much.

John was truely the greatest song writer of all time...
Anyone know any news about if David Chapman is going to get parole like he wanted? I heard bout this but didnt hear any follow ups.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Gimme Some Truth has gotta be the greatest 'political' song of all time. Its the second best song on Imagine (next to Imagine, naturally).[/QUOTE]

I really like Oh Yoko!

That's possibly my favourite.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]John was truely the greatest song writer of all time...
Anyone know any news about if David Chapman is going to get parole like he wanted? I heard bout this but didnt hear any follow ups.[/QUOTE]

Nah, he got denied.

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]I really like Oh Yoko!

That's possibly my favourite.[/QUOTE]

I love the harmonica solo at the end so much... it is like the breath of life, that good

-Oh My Love reminds me of snow falling

/revives thread

Heres something i found one georger harrison playing the song 'in my little snapshot album' a while ago. He was at some festival of Banjo/Uke players, were many performed, and Harrison decided to et onstage himself and play his rare song...which he forgot some of the words to while playing.

[url]http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/dennis.taylor/Page_036_george_harrison_mbe.htm[/url]

Just thought it would be interesting. And since this is so rare...the quality is naturally crappy, since some random guy in the audience recorded it with his tape player, but cool nonetheless.

Meh. My computer will not allow it

I was always wondering what a banjo uke was, now I want one :(

I'll listen to that mp3 when I get a chance. What is George playing on it?

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I'll listen to that mp3 when I get a chance. What is George playing on it?[/QUOTE]

A hybrid ukulele/banjo

The text on the site explains...but i shouldve said it. It a song called "In My Little SnapShot Album". It not bad, but is hard to make out the solo at the end.

And also...the link doesnt have to be 'save taget as'...you just click it and itll play on RealOne.