You're putting Underoath on the same level as **** like Attack Attack!, basically, when in reality, Underoath's image has changed time and time again along with fashion trends of the time they're in.

J.S.

again

why should fashion matter at all

Well, he's got a point honestly. You've got terrible terrible generic bands like Attack Attack! who are clearly just in the scene for the fashion.

But I'm just confused as to how this band fits that at all:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CuGyu0mdao[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oozx7DT4Ays[/url]

man look how scene timmy is, in those cut off jeans

I guess I'm only really concerned with bands that use image to sell, as I've said. It should be about the music. Look at KISS, they made so much moeny, they are not anything special. They just whored out to make action figures and all kinds of gimmicks. I'm not comparing underoath to kiss or anything but I'm saying image does matter. It alone WILL get you fans.

Dude, watch those two videos.

They're not an image based band.

Idk dude, I see a small change in style. Could just be the time passed and some members left/joined. I mean its obvious Aaron is fan of the scene style. Now the rest of them aren't but look at this shot.
http://www.100xr.com/100_XR/Artists/U/Underoath/Underoath_2004.jpg

They were all trying too hard there. That's around the time they exploded in popularity too. I mean fashion is a big part of that scene. Attack Attack! isn't even as ridiculous as Alesana, Escape the Fate, Blessthefall,The Word Alive, Drop Dead Gorgeous. It's easy to see that image is a large part of these bands.

2004

not 1998-2002

not 2006-now

they had an ultra scene phase yeah

Yes. So.....I just have this thing where I don't like image driven music. That is fine if you don't care about it. And we will never agree on Zao vs Underoath so lets just forget that. I'm a bit drunk now and have summer slaughter tommorow so, I end my rant here.

needs moar suicide silence

band is so bad

image based music?

idk i just listen to the music without worrying too much about how they look on stage or whatever.

same mayne

yeah dallas ****ing rips (late reply my bad)

I love Dallas vocals, Zao is pretty poopty, UO don't wear scene clothes to try and retain some dignity cause 75% of their audience is young scene girls.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17289565]i disagree

caitiff choir has the poppy songs with a lot of clean singing, but if you skip those, the heavy stuff is all in all better than the new one

plus, defeatism man, that song is awesome[/QUOTE]

i dont mind poppy songs but, i didnt like the vocals on catiff choir

Dallas vocals were ****ing awesome, I really like everything Underoath has done except probably TOCS, it's not bad, but I rarely listen to that album. Cries of the Past is the best <3

underoath is so ****ing good really digging DFTGL

I don't get the big deal about Underoath I was into them 4 years ago when I liked gay emo-y **** and now I'm over it and realize they're lame as hell

is it because theyve gotten more popular the last 4 years? band rules and the fact theyve gotten popular and loved by scene kids hasnt bothered me or swayed how much i love them

no not really...around here they seem to have gotten less popular but i don't get cable or listen to the radio so i wouldn't know

just back then i listened to really immature music like Dead Poetic, Underoath, All That Remains, Unearth kinda music and I feel like I've grown past all that now and just see it as formulaic pop music. So when you guys rave about Underoath it just reminds me of all that other gay emotion-based crap that was made to make money.

lol emotion based music

music should never be emotional

[QUOTE=hXcPLISIT;17290027]lol emotion based music

music should never be emotional[/QUOTE]

yes take one phrase from my post that i didn't spend 10 minutes finding the perfect words for and use it to blow the entire post out of proportion

I like Underoath very much and I don't give a **** who likes them or not. They were/are very good.

Goddammit i don't dislike them because they're popular! I dislike them because they're empty meaningless cash cow drivel!

edit: not that i mean to argue with you txusy i just wanted to make myself clear

I actually respect them for not signing to a major, they could have signed long ago and still can sign.

Their last 2 LPs just sound forced to me, like they're trying to be heavy for the sake of being heavy.

to get the pit movin brah

hda youre ****ing retarded

how are Underaoth immature?

[QUOTE=SKUDstorm;17290097]hda youre ****ing retarded[/QUOTE]

because...i don't like underoath?

jrowa: It's just very shallow music, bands like underoath are a dime dozen. There's literally thousands of bands that sound just like them. WHat makes them so special?

have you heard their early stuff? i cant believe you dont even like that.

your taste is good sometimes man but wow some of your opinions are ****ing retarded.

[QUOTE=Txus;17290175]have you heard their early stuff? i cant believe you dont even like that.

your taste is good sometimes man but wow some of your opinions are ****ing retarded.[/QUOTE]

Like Cries of the Past and what is the other one something Depression. Haven't listened to those in a few years but I remember the song with the lolbad double bass intro.

I dunno, I don't have a ton of Underoath experience besides Only Chasing Safety and the previous album and I've heard random songs of the new stuff seemed like more of the same. I dunno I've just always lumped them in with that Chiodos Saosin Receiving end of Sirens girl rock scene. Idk agree to disagree if we must?

np: Daedelus why the **** would i listen to underoath when i can listen to daedelus

Underoath shouldnt be lumped with Saosin, Chiodos and REoS. Theyre Only Chasing Safety is their only real poppy album. theyve grown and matured musically and sound nothing like those bands.

oh

well ill get some of their new stuff and see how i feel

yeah def do that.

Again no matter if UO is good or not there are much better metalcore bands.

thats blatantly obvious

[I]Act Of Depression[/I] would be good if the lyrics weren't so ****ing awful.

[QUOTE=Txus;17289970]Dallas vocals were ****ing awesome, I really like everything Underoath has done except probably TOCS, it's not bad, but I rarely listen to that album. Cries of the Past is the best <3[/QUOTE]

i remember my muxtape had i'm content with losing on it and you approved

which is good, because that song is ballin
[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17290272]Again no matter if UO is good or not there are much better metalcore bands.[/QUOTE]

wanna name drop some overrated bands that are less popular now so that everyone can see how smart you are?

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17290165]jrowa: It's just very shallow music, bands like underoath are a dime dozen. There's literally thousands of bands that sound just like them. WHat makes them so special?[/QUOTE]
1. how is it shallow? because there's not enough theory behind their music? :p
2. underoath isn't really a dime in a dozen band, as they actually execute their style tastefully, and started a few trends... and well, they change their sound every album, so i'm not really sure exactly what they "sound" like
3. literally thousands of bands that ripped them off

4. Mappy loves em.