this page is amazing

[QUOTE=Si1v3RfaNg;17288609]Hey do you guys like brodowns!!!???[/QUOTE]

Do you?

can't find the link for that video, anybody hook a brother up?

It's on the previous page I think.

yeah i found it, it diddn't work at first

I really love Christian Metalcore. Its one of my favoirte sub genres of Metalcore because you got bands like.

As I lay Dying
The Devil Wears Prada
August Burns Red
Oh, Sleeper
War of Ages
Destroy the Runner
Haste the Day
Blessthefall (kind of)
Underoath
Becoming the Archetype
The Chariot
Demon Hunter
Mychildren Mybride
Norma Jean

The list goes on. :p

check out For Today, i like them but lost a lot of respect when i saw them live and tried to be preachy and cram religion down everyone's throats

Listen to Zao at least. Bless the Fall, Underoath and The Devil Wears Prada are disgusting.

On another subject, How about Pulling Teeth? They are closer to proto-metalcore I guess. Metallic Hardcore became metalcore. I like the new album.

Underoath is awesome dude, Zao on the other hand is terrible, stop failing so hard.

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289504]On another subject, How about Pulling Teeth? They are closer to proto-metalcore I guess. Metallic Hardcore became metalcore. I like the new album.[/QUOTE]

i would feel very off about calling them metalcore, but yeah, the new album is definitely sick.

listened to new it dies today, better then catiff choir

i disagree

caitiff choir has the poppy songs with a lot of clean singing, but if you skip those, the heavy stuff is all in all better than the new one

plus, defeatism man, that song is awesome

Whatever, Zao is actually relevent, they actually put out good albums. They have good live shows. They got me into extreme music. So ****, I love them. Underoath on the other hand is the true fail. Lets compare lyrics.

MYYyyyyyy KNUCKLES HAVE TURNED TO WHIIIITE SO KISS ME ONE LAST TIIIIME!

JESUUUUUUUS IM READY TO COOOOME HOOME!
- Underoath

"Open your mouth, boy
Just to swallow your teeth
I will not pay the price for your self-inflicted grief
My meekness lies there shivering and raped
Trembling prophet
Anointed wrath of God incarnate

Cutting and tearing dissection
Strangled and hanging before me
Weeping and screaming become you
Carry out your suffering"
- Zao
Now lets compare vocalists.
Dan from Zao
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/Zao_US_band.jpg[/IMG]
Spencer from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/uo_bhamspencer.jpg[/IMG]
Aaron from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/l_98d031089d908e47f52cc420afd6c2c0.jpg[/IMG]


Dan could wipe the floor with both of them lol. Musically, Zao is much more abrasive and powerful, more my style. This is my opinion. You can keep defening underoath, Zao annihilates them. They came before, they pioneered, they are superior musically.

i agree with everything bleekill said

zao rule...well their discography is a little bit up and down, but overall solid stuff

Enjoying the new Coalesce..........

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289568]Whatever, Zao is actually relevent, they actually put out good albums. They have good live shows. They got me into extreme music. So ****, I love them. Underoath on the other hand is the true fail.

Dan could wipe the floor with both of them lol. Musically, Zao is much more abrasive and powerful, more my style. This is my opinion. You can keep defening underoath, Zao annihilates them. They came before, they pioneered, they are superior musically.[/QUOTE]

Okay. Firstly, Underoath have released at least three albums better than anything Zao has ever done. I like Zao, both old Zao and new fake-Zao, but they've been releasing the same album for over a decade. Secondly, comparing lyrics is pointless. Neither band writes anything but average lyrics. Thirdly, Zao didn't pioneer ****.

well they're arguably the first big christian metalcore band

and lol at the statement "Underoath have released at least three albums better than anything Zao has ever done"

Well it's true. You could throw all of Zao's albums into a hat and no matter what you pick out you're getting the same level of quality. Granted they've probably never released anything as terrible as They're Only Chasing Safety or Act of Depression, but I digress.

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289568]Whatever, Zao is actually relevent,[/quote]
how is underoath irrelevant?

[quote]they actually put out good albums.[/quote]
one good album

[quote]They have good live shows.[/quote]
theyre kind of boring live

[quote]They got me into extreme music. So ****, I love them.[/quote]
cool

[quote]Underoath on the other hand is the true fail.[/quote]
lol k

[quote]Lets compare lyrics.

MYYyyyyyy KNUCKLES HAVE TURNED TO WHIIIITE SO KISS ME ONE LAST TIIIIME!

JESUUUUUUUS IM READY TO COOOOME HOOME!
- Underoath [/quote]

short segments taken out of context, nice

lets go with the second one shall we?

i heard a voice through the discord
a deluge of passer's by
and i saw one gaze frozen in time
watching me pass it by
and i'll see your face in the crowd
and i'll hear your voice aloud, when you're whispering

hey unfaithful, i will teach you to be stronger
hey ungraceful, i will teach you to forgive one another

here's my kiss to betray
desperate to brush the lips of grace
do you feel hollow, when you think of how i lied?
and o' sweet angel of mercy, with your grace like the morning
wrap your loving arms around me

/chorus

and jesus i'm ready to come home

hey unfaithful, hey ungraceful, hey unloving
i will love you

SUCH MEANINGLESS STUPID LYRICS

[quote]"Open your mouth, boy
Just to swallow your teeth
I will not pay the price for your self-inflicted grief
My meekness lies there shivering and raped
Trembling prophet
Anointed wrath of God incarnate

Cutting and tearing dissection
Strangled and hanging before me
Weeping and screaming become you
Carry out your suffering"
- Zao[/quote]

k, those lyrics are kind of boring and forced rhymey

[quote]Now lets compare vocalists.
Dan from Zao
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/Zao_US_band.jpg[/IMG]

Spencer from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/uo_bhamspencer.jpg[/IMG]
Aaron from UO
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Jordan1124/l_98d031089d908e47f52cc420afd6c2c0.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Now let's compare their voices.

Dan, generic rasps, no range.

Spencer extremely distinct and powerful, great range too, and he can sing.

Aaron, his vocals grow on you, or they grew on me.

Also, Dallas > Spencer > Dan

[quote]Dan could wipe the floor with both of them lol.[/quote]
both sound better.

[quote]Musically, Zao is much more abrasive and powerful, [B]more my style.This is my opinion.[/b][/quote]
very good. your opinion is also a bit over-the-top in regards too underoath

[quote]You can keep defening underoath[/quote]
and i will, with valid points

[quote]Zao annihilates them.[/quote]
old underoath is similar to old zao, but less monotonous

[quote]They came before, they pioneered[/quote]
doesn't make them any less boring

[quote]they are superior musically.[/QUOTE]
i disagree, i'll just go with drumming alone, since that's underoath's only fundamentally strong point other than vocals.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17289611]Well it's true. You could throw all of Zao's albums into a hat and no matter what you pick out you're getting the same level of quality. Granted they've probably never released anything as terrible as They're Only Chasing Safety or Act of Depression, but I digress.[/QUOTE]
They're Only Chasing Safety is awesome, it's like Taking Back Sunday meets Thursday with badass vocals.

Zao actually has some moving lyrics. They deal with politics and death and relationships. Underoath is basically melodrama.

How was the Fear the same as Funeral of God? One was more hardcore low production and one was super clean, almost MDM sounding.

[QUOTE]Zao actually has some moving lyrics. They deal with politics and death and relationships. Underoath is basically melodrama. [/QUOTE]
This is obviously biased and untrue. Their lyrics are relatively similar, they're both angsty with religious undertones and they're both relatively irrelevant.

Underoath's lyrics on the past two albums have been about praying for self-help.

Someone please turn the lights back on
I've been wandering here for days, disconnected, and in search for new air to breathe in

Some think I can fix this
Some think I could change

But that's the problem
We never speak to Him
Though our closing walls have cages in them
And I can't quite remember

This was the first time I didn't say enough
This was the only time I kept it close enough

song was the best thing ever to listen to while getting off of oxycontin.

[QUOTE=McP3000;17289599]and lol at the statement "Underoath have released at least three albums better than anything Zao has ever done"[/QUOTE]
lol at acting like anything zao has released is anywhere near as good as underoath's last two albums or the changing of times, or even better

maybe im biased against zao because im from pa and im ****ing sick of hearing about how great they are, because they ****ing suck

Zao is pretty decent but they have no real character, it's the same **** over and over regardless of whether the production is different or not. I prefer Underoath because they at least do different things. They went from arguably straight metalcore to some death/black metal tinged metalcore to synthy stuff to straight up pop punk to what they play now which is almost like post-metal(core)

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17289630]lol at acting like anything zao has released is anywhere near as good as underoath's last two albums or the changing of times, or even better

maybe im biased against zao because im from pa and im ****ing sick of hearing about how great they are, because they ****ing suck[/QUOTE]
i dont know anyone thats heard of the band

also, i thought Lost In The Sound Of Seperation was pretty average

i like act of depression i am fag

that album is sloppy, its no good!

dallas' vocals on there are ****ing ridiculous

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17289635]They went from arguably straight metalcore to some death/black metal tinged metalcore[/quote]

IDK I'd consider AOD to be more like a weird mix between early deathcore and Converge. As for Cries Of The Past... metalcore? I don't see it, seems more of the boat of TTEOTD, just MDM with breakdowns.

[quote]to synthy stuff[/quote]
Changing of Times?

[quote]to straight up pop punk[/quote]
TOC's is not pop-punk at all.

[quote]to what they play now which is almost like post-metal(core)[/QUOTE]
I'd consider the last two albums the most straight up metalcore material they've released to date.

I'm from PA also, Pittsburgh actually. But I mean, even compare fanbases...Underoaths is a bunch of scene kids. I am not fond of scene kids. Just look at those gifs, underoath spawned I tell you.

I still stand by Zao's lyrics. They are much more visceral and powerful. Underoath just comes of as whiny and melodramatic.

[QUOTE]IDK I'd consider AOD to be more like a weird mix between early deathcore and Converge[/QUOTE]
You're probably right, I haven't heard it in forever.
[QUOTE]Changing of Times?[/QUOTE]
Yea
[QUOTE]
TOC's is not pop-punk at all.[/QUOTE]
What I remember of it was.

[QUOTE]I'd consider the last two albums the most straight up metalcore material they've released to date.[/QUOTE]
They're definitely metalcore I was just referring more to the atmosphere and layout of how they wrote the musics.

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289653]I'm from PA also, Pittsburgh actually. But I mean, even compare fanbases...Underoaths is a bunch of scene kids.[/quote]
And a bunch of people who are willing to listen to a great band regardless of how scene their new fans are.

[quote]I am not fond of scene kids.[/quote]
They're not so bad, they're just teenagers. Me and my friends were p. ****ing scene in highschool, and like, there were cool *** scene kids, and a bunch of douchebags too, like any other demographic.

[quote]I still stand by Zao's lyrics. They are much more visceral and powerful. Underoath just comes of as whiny and melodramatic.[/QUOTE]
Zao's lyrics = overdone imagery everywhere.

Underoath's lyrics = a bit too straightforward at times, but very awesome from a Christian perspective.

Or with Dallas, very awesome from the perspective of a whiny bitch like myself.

I guess I love the imagery in their lyrics. I never bought into the whole scene thing. I don't like bands that are focused on image/fashion.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17289654]You're probably right, I haven't heard it in forever.[/quote]
Yeah, well, you know how I do with ma Underoath son.

[quote]Yea[/quote]
Skramz purists will shoot me down right away in all cases, but **** it, skramz purists refuse to admit that You And I have metal riffs at the ***.

The Changing Of Times always seemed like a VERY screamo oriented metalcore album to me, which is what I like about it so much, it's two of my favorite things in a pretty damn unique manner.

[quote]What I remember of it was.[/quote]
It sounds like old Taking Back Sunday meets new Thursday but heavier. Not really what I'd call pop-punk.

[quote]They're definitely metalcore I was just referring more to the atmosphere and layout of how they wrote the musics.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking you were saying you notice a lot of post hardcore influence.

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289669] I never bought into the whole scene thing. I don't like bands that are focused on image/fashion.[/QUOTE]


shouldn't make a difference, thats very judgemental, good music is good no matter what they look like/dress in/fan types etc

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17289669]I guess I love the imagery in their lyrics. I never bought into the whole scene thing. I don't like bands that are focused on image/fashion.[/QUOTE]

Underoath's fashioncore phase was extremely short-lived.

They're not even that big of scene kids these days, except maybe Aaron.

Timmy and Grant have huge *** beards and crew cuts these days, ffs.

Spencer is just some coke head in tight pants, and James is well, just some tall skinny kid with a normal mid length haircut.

I have listened to their music. I had tons of friends in highschool who loved them, I've listened to them a good bit. Ive seen them live.

I don't like any image based bands really, even black metal corpse paint wearing dudes. It just doesn't apeal to me. I will admit I listen to a few corpse painted musicians but I have never really found a glam rock/metal or scene band that had enough value to outweigh their focus on fashion and image.

Underoath is not an image based band.

Most good black metal is not image based.

A lot of scenecore bands are playing the music and dressing the part merely because that's the culture that they're into, usually because of the bands they listen to.

You care more about these bands' images than they do themselves.

I don't know I think you are under estimating the power of image. Before you just had mtv, kids copying what those musicians wore. Now look at your typical teenagers myspace. This scene look is pretty common. In my area is extremely common. Look at the bands the kids who dress like that listen to. They all dress the same, its a bigger deal than you make it sound.

every artist tries to put out a certain type of image to associate with their music

its a stupid argument