The In Your Face lyrics don't seem punk to me either.

They seem extremely punk to me, the entire goal is to say I'm rebelling and you can't control me, that is one of the most punk concepts there is.

Punk to me would be "f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck the goverment, anarchy is the way to go". Besides, metal is about the music. Alexi says himself that he's a terrible lyricist, and I certainly don't listen to them because I like his lyrics. As long as the music stays metal, which it is, they'll be a metal band.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]They seem extremely punk to me, the entire goal is to say I'm rebelling and you can't control me, that is one of the most punk concepts there is.[/QUOTE]

First metal band - Black Sabbath (to my knowledge). Debut hit North America in 1970, a few years earlier back in jolly ole' England. If Warpigs isn't a song about rebellion (against the government, too), then I'll be damned. Looks like punk was influenced by metal, not the other way around.

Rebellion and a general distaste for mainstream society is one of the core values in metal (and punk). However, metal introduced it first, and with much more musical prowess, to boot.

Not all punk is political you know.

It's not all about the lyrics either it's about the attitude, and Alexi has the same attitude with his music. He's always all like well this is what we make and were going to do it, it used to be much more about focusing on composition and melody, it was much more in touch with the classical roots.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]The Arsis lyrics were very metal and many people will tell you those Bodom lyrics are certainly not even close.[/QUOTE]
You seem to have this idea that Metal lyrics have to talk about fantasy, or at least talk about the theme in a fantasy style.

I don't think all the genres of metal have a common lyrical style. It differs alot.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]First metal band - Black Sabbath (to my knowledge). Debut hit North America in 1970, a few years earlier back in jolly ole' England. If Warpigs isn't a song about rebellion (against the government, too), then I'll be damned. Looks like punk was influenced by metal, not the other way around.

Rebellion and a general distaste for mainstream society is one of the core values in metal (and punk). However, metal introduced it first, and with much more musical prowess, to boot.[/QUOTE]
I think we've had this discussion before, Sabbath was the first band to introduce metal but they werent the first 100% metal band, they were as much rock as they were metal. I think Maiden was the first band to be truley metal.

Sabbath sounds more metal to me than Maiden.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]I think we've had this discussion before, Sabbath was the first band to introduce metal but they werent the first 100% metal band, they were as much rock as they were metal. I think Maiden was the first band to be truley metal.[/QUOTE]

Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills

That's a song that gives a big, happy middle finger to the American government for exploiting and inditing Native American Indians. More rebellion against the government there.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]I think Maiden was the first band to be truley metal.[/QUOTE]
I have three words for you:

JUDAS F[size=2]U[/size]CKING PRIEST.

It's hard for anything to be "more metal than Maiden" seeing as they are, well cmon man it's frickin Maiden! I can see a lot of songs being as metal as Maiden, but Sweet Leaf, Fairies Where Boots, Paranoid, those are definately not as metal as Maiden.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]I have three words for you:

JUDAS F[size=2]U[/size]CKING PRIEST.[/QUOTE]
I'm not familiar with anything before British Steel

Jacob Run to the Hills is also about 17th century Englishmen and Indians lol.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]It's hard for anything to be "more metal than Maiden" seeing as they are, well cmon man it's frickin Maiden! I can see a lot of songs being as metal as Maiden, but Sweet Leaf, Fairies Where Boots, Paranoid, those are definately not as metal as Maiden.[/QUOTE]
To me, Maiden is very far from the definition of metal that people make them out to be.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]I'm not familiar with anything before British Steel

Jacob Run to the Hills is also about 17th century Englishmen and Indians lol.[/QUOTE]
Well you should be, because Maiden owe everything to what Judas Priest did before [I]British Steel[/I].

I forgot your not a Maiden fan, I guess you'd have to be to understand the greatness of Maiden. I'm a pretty strong athiest and if I was to take up religion it'd be worshipping them.

AR I think I've heard the Ripper which is indeed a very metal song.

IHeartSP has been getting owned over the last 3 pages.

That's all I have to say.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]I forgot your not a Maiden fan, I guess you'd have to be to understand the greatness of Maiden. I'm a pretty strong athiest and if I was to take up religion it'd be worshipping them.

AR I think I've heard the Ripper which is indeed a very metal song.[/QUOTE]
Vice versa for Judas Preist.

This might have been posted earlier, but the AYDY? vid is on Scythes of Bodom... it's very disapointing.

it sucks

I can't describe how sick that video made me.

What the f[size=2]uc[/size]k happened? Oh wait. Trying to appease americans.

Nothing in that video had jack s[size=2]hi[/size]t to do with the song even.

Going back to Priest, they were around before Maiden, and you can hear some of their sound in Maiden.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Going back to Priest, they were around before Maiden, and you can hear some of their sound in Maiden.[/QUOTE]


Priest > Maiden FTW

I like Maiden more.

I really liked the video. The shots of the band playing were awesome.

Seriously, I just watched the video. It's awesome. What's up with people?

I have no idea. Suddenly everyone thinks they know exactly what's going through their minds. The thing is hardly different from any of their other videos anyway.

Fuc[size=2]k[/size] Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.

[QUOTE=Silenius]Fuc[size=2]k[/size] Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.[/QUOTE]

Quoted for idiocy.

[QUOTE=Silenius]Fuc[size=2]k[/size] Priest, long live Maiden. :p



Steve Harris is the man.[/QUOTE]

Quoted for truth.

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Quoted for idiocy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FuryInArt]Quoted for truth.[/QUOTE]
Quoted for conflict.