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Morumbar 02-11-2010 12:51 PM

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17803453]This isn't bad.

Have you heard the soundtrack for the original Silent Hill game? Some creepy ambient, you could certainly apply the "depraved" tag to it.[/QUOTE]

Stillhet (a black metal band) did a pretty awesome cover of that.

Jaundice 02-11-2010 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=bloc;17805393]Oh crap yes, A23 is awesome. Love me some futurepop.[/QUOTE]

yeah i like A23 and VNV nation

Meatplow 02-11-2010 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=Mornwyrd;17805486]Stillhet (a black metal band) did a pretty awesome cover of that.[/QUOTE]

Interesting.

I always found it genuinely unnerving.

RouteOne 02-12-2010 02:07 PM

My god why is Prurient's [I]Rose Pillar[/I] so perfect.

Txus 02-12-2010 02:08 PM

Why is Prurient so perfect

that's the real question

Definitely my favorite noise artist.

You live in NY, Ron? You should visit Hospital's Production shop one of these days. It rules.

RouteOne 02-12-2010 02:09 PM

I want to get his latest box set, if its not sold out already. Crazy stuff:



http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=1674090

Txus 02-12-2010 02:14 PM

holy **** that looks amazing

Meatplow 02-12-2010 06:21 PM

Prurient does rule from what i've heard, I need to get some more of his stuff.

I have [I]Cocaine Death [/I]and [I]Golden Chamber[/I] to listen to at the moment.

Meatplow 02-13-2010 12:04 AM

The Fair Sex -[I] Demented Forms[/I]

get it

Jaundice 02-13-2010 06:01 AM

triple posting in the industrial thread

Meatplow 02-13-2010 06:14 AM

liar

Aaron 02-14-2010 07:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppVhPfD-27k

I <3 this game

Ventriloquist 02-14-2010 07:58 AM

Hah, I used to play the **** out of that game.

Jaundice 02-14-2010 05:56 PM

Been running through a lot of blogs lately trying to find some Cazazza that isn't on the Worst Of compilation

So far I've found a disc of his post-punk stuff that I'll have to listen to .

Aaron 02-14-2010 06:33 PM

[quote=Ventriloquist;17810246]Hah, I used to play the **** out of that game.[/quote]
Me too. So disorientating. ****ing immense game.

Ventriloquist 02-14-2010 07:54 PM

Buying my tickets for the Nitzer Ebb gig on friday tomorrow. My first industrial gig <3

edit: 2nd, I saw NIN this summer.

Jaundice 02-14-2010 08:38 PM

NIN is not industrial. I saw them last year and walked out after the first few songs. :rolleyes:



but for what its worth I consider Nine Inch Nails among the best and most important music that's ever been composed.

Murdererer 02-14-2010 11:07 PM

NIN and gary numan did a few numan songs at a concert recently, i heard they are gonna make an album together but i dont know if thats true. itd be interesting tho if they did

Lucian 02-14-2010 11:09 PM

Since you've included ambient, my favorite ambient band is The Receiving End of Sirens

[IMG]http://panther1.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/1244438/237532.jpg[/IMG]

Favorite industrial band, whereis I don't like much industrial, is Celldweller.

[IMG]http://www.fixtstore.com/img/graphics/FiXT/Celldweller_TheLastFirstbornRemixes.jpg[/IMG]

Murdererer 02-14-2010 11:10 PM

heh that trannys naked

Jaundice 02-14-2010 11:11 PM

That would be a ****ing brilliant collaboration.

I am pretty anxious for new NIN material tho, Ive already played the last two new ones to death.

I also think Reznor needs to find another bitch. You know how Dr. Dre had Snoop as his bitch for so long but then he switched it up and made Eminem his bitch? I think Reznor needs to let Marilyn Mansoe go do his thing, and give up the Saul Williams thing altogher, and just find a brand new bitch.

Lucian 02-14-2010 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=Murdererer;17811439]heh that trannys naked[/QUOTE]

You know you like it

Jaundice 02-14-2010 11:29 PM

im more offended by the fact that Celldweller was categorized as industrial and has in turn been allowed into our thread.

Nepenthe 02-14-2010 11:31 PM

lucian lucian lucian lucian

Lucian 02-14-2010 11:33 PM

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17811500]im more offended by the fact that Celldweller was categorized as industrial and has in turn been allowed into our thread.[/QUOTE]

It is industrial though, and a great band at that. What's so bad about Klayton?

Jaundice 02-14-2010 11:36 PM

I don't know enough research to decide whether it's good or bad, but Cellddweller most definitely ins't industrial.

I'll need to do more research.

Meatplow 02-14-2010 11:44 PM

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17811441]That would be a ****ing brilliant collaboration.

I am pretty anxious for new NIN material tho, Ive already played the last two new ones to death.

I also think Reznor needs to find another bitch. You know how Dr. Dre had Snoop as his bitch for so long but then he switched it up and made Eminem his bitch? I think Reznor needs to let Marilyn Mansoe go do his thing, and give up the Saul Williams thing altogher, and just find a brand new bitch.[/QUOTE]

maybe Reznor could try not being so boring

Jaundice 02-15-2010 12:02 AM

I can't imagine any sort of complaint about Reznor as a performer. He's pretty top of the line.

Meatplow 02-15-2010 12:07 AM

idk about his performances but his music is entry level as far as industrial goes

I always found his stuff kinda patchy, where it works it is awesome though

Jaundice 02-15-2010 12:15 AM

NIN isn't entry-level industrial, because they're not indsustrial. You're bound to be disappointed when you go into things expecting something else.

I know without question if you listened to discography in its entirety youd find a pretty huge amount of songs that would totally do it for you.

Your problem, I guess, is finding them.

I could always help you out by throwing random album recs and youtube videos at you

Meatplow 02-15-2010 12:25 AM

It wouldn't be a far stretch to call NIN industrial rock. In my experience, it would seem most people get their first taste of industrial of listening to Reznor.

I've listened to [I]Pretty Hate Machine, The Downward Spiral [/I]and [I]Year Zero[/I] quite a bit and whilst all three had their moments I found them severely overrated. Amongst other stuff i've heard through friends and being constantly bombarded with live DVD's at parties I have little desire to follow up on anything else the guy has done.

I just find his work mostly tedious, idk.

Jaundice 02-15-2010 12:31 AM

Nine Inch Nails is industrial rock. But there's a huge difference between industrial rock and Industrial.

Pretty Hate Machine and Downward Spiral are really cute and all but I'd say you need the [I]Broken[/I] EP [I]The Fragile [/I]LP under your belt before you can make a real judgement.

Meatplow 02-15-2010 01:06 AM

I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and check those out at some point ;)

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17811578]Nine Inch Nails is industrial rock. But there's a huge difference between industrial rock and Industrial. [/QUOTE]

I do agree with this somewhat and it would seem a common misconception when EBM, coldwave and industrial metal style material is seen as the "defining" industrial sound by novices when they are really post-industrial genres.

Still, it serves as a handy umbrella term for all these varied, anal categories associated with it though.

Jaundice 02-15-2010 01:15 AM

Anything that had an influence on the records released by Industrial Records artists may be called proto-industrial if neccessary. Krautrock, New Music, Prog, etc.

Industrial music is music that was released by Industrial Records , end of story. If that label put it out then it's industrial. If they didn't, it isn't.

Post -industrial can be an umbrella term for any one or any thing trying to create new art that was heavily inspired by and borrows elements from Industrial.

The way I see it anyway.

Meatplow 02-15-2010 03:19 AM

Yeah, idk if I would call myself that much of a first wave purist.

I mean, Industrial Records was pretty much nothing but releases by Throbbing Gristle and a few select artists barely anybody remembers. Even Monte Cazazza and Cabaret Voltaire didn't release the majority of their stuff through there.

There was a huge scene happening within the continuing development of post-punk, ambient, noise and electronic music and these all somewhat overlapped. Throbbing Gristle and many of the first wave bands could be accused of not being industrial at all, by this measure.

rasputin 02-15-2010 03:44 AM

what's everyone's favourite aidan baker album?

i've only heard scalpel and his stuff in nadja or with tim hecker, so ive started downloading 7 of his albums that looked cool/had decent ratings on RYM

Ventriloquist 02-15-2010 05:40 AM

Scalpel and Green & Cold are my favourites.

Lucian 02-15-2010 10:51 AM

Lol, are you kidding me Jaundice? Celldweller's just about the most industrial band here!

Jaundice 02-15-2010 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17811790]Yeah, idk if I would call myself that much of a first wave purist.

I mean, Industrial Records was pretty much nothing but releases by Throbbing Gristle and a few select artists barely anybody remembers. Even Monte Cazazza and Cabaret Voltaire didn't release the majority of their stuff through there.

There was a huge scene happening within the continuing development of post-punk, ambient, noise and electronic music and these all somewhat overlapped. Throbbing Gristle and many of the first wave bands could be accused of not being industrial at all, by this measure.[/QUOTE]It's not exactly a law but that's kind of how it goes technically when you consider that Cazazza and Orridge invented the term specifically for records being put out by their label , and have denied association with the modern standard for what's industrial.

I'd be picky about calling something industrial when it's actually industrial rock, but I'll readily apply the term industrial to releases that weren't on the IR label if they came out during the right time period and had the right sound. I'm not about to call Einsturzende Neubauten and Severed Heads post-industrial.

Ventriloquist 02-15-2010 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=Lucian;17812015]Lol, are you kidding me Jaundice? [B]Celldweller's just about the most industrial band here[/B]![/QUOTE]

Haven't heard the band but Foetus was mentioned in the thread so the statement is false.


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