I feel like you just don't understand the point we're all making. We're not giving an ethical lesson, and I wouldn't expect you to stop downloading stuff, but it is in fact a property that only exists because of monetary value. If music had always been free there would be no industry and no touring bands and nothing to listen to anyway.

Likewise if you were to follow your philosophy it would have to be in a completely communist region. It doesn't make sense that you can say this has no value, but that you're willing to pay for something like a book or non-essential clothing.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;16943500]i dunno if playing in a poopty deathcore qualifies you as a "vocalist"?[/QUOTE]

no but screaming for 5+ years in like 7 different bands in various genres does id think c:

[QUOTE=Iluvatar;16943507]i listen to later jeromes dream more just because that dude wrote the craziest guitar parts then[/QUOTE]

it is true, i like it a lot when im nodding

wtf who cares

[img]http://media.fukung.net/images/7825/hardcore2.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=iamrockzorz;16945864]I feel like you just don't understand the point we're all making. We're not giving an ethical lesson, and I wouldn't expect you to stop downloading stuff, but it is in fact a property that only exists because of monetary value. If music had always been free there would be no industry and no touring bands and nothing to listen to anyway.

Likewise if you were to follow your philosophy it would have to be in a completely communist region. It doesn't make sense that you can say this has no value, but that you're willing to pay for something like a book or non-essential clothing.[/QUOTE]

*you* aren't understanding the point *I* am making. but I'm really not up for a discussion on philosophies. (yes Communism is a philosophy, not an ideology, Jared. Leninism, Marxism and Maoism are ideologies.) I just want someone to f'ucking up me some Mesa Verde. it's not the most absurd request made on this forum ever. (also I wouldn't be "willing" to pay for a book or non-essential clothing.) if anyone wants to know what my philosophical stances are (to make fun or me or whatever), read The Conquest of Bread - and try to apply it to the 21st century.

[QUOTE]I just want someone to f'ucking up me some Mesa Verde[/QUOTE]
by saying that i assume you don't have it yet

[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?ihuw5gyoym5[/url]

now was that so hard? thanks DBlitz :)

no problem

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I want to destroy all wiggers.

start by putting a bullet in your head

AH you got me. I'm a secret wigger.

kiddies gtfo, men heil sum chune

big hat, no cattle is ****ing elite

[QUOTE=moron;16941660]born against suck[/QUOTE]

Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

have to agree. Born Against are ****ing awesome.

just finished listening to you and i really good stuff

so I made the mistake of going on the myspace emo forums assuming that there was actual music discussion. :\

lol

lol myspace

Myspace has forums?

lol yeah and they're pretty awful

no not the Linux one or the hacker groups. but uh there are a couple of decent emo ones with uploads and ****. obviously the biggest ones consists of scenesters, but look for the little ones. like the one started by that band uh Caitlyn Baily? or was it another band? can't remember. they all are called "something something skramz something".

[QUOTE=Luc214;17038809]lol yeah and they're pretty awful[/QUOTE]

Except for when Mappy is trolling the **** out of people.

I listened to The Khayembii Communique yesterday, I still love them.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;17039792]Except for when Mappy is trolling the **** out of people.[/QUOTE]
oh so he's acting like he's on mx

I guess?..

[quote=mcp3000;17039881]oh So He's Acting Like He's On Mx[/quote]

Haha So Clever

mappy = funny

i listening to joshua fit for battle stuff and the vocalist was growling, anyone know any other screamo bands that growl

no, but score one for safety's singer does metalcore-y mid-range vocals here and there.

alright ill check them out

[QUOTE=Luc214;17038809]lol yeah and they're pretty awful[/QUOTE]

fun to troll though

[QUOTE=thomasj12e34;17041469]i listening to joshua fit for battle stuff and the vocalist was growling, anyone know any other screamo bands that growl[/QUOTE]

Vincent Price's Orphan Powered Death Machine's one vocalist does some growling, and it's not bad either. I'll link you to a site with their entire discography, just lemme find it quick.

The Spectacle though they are probably more crust than screamo I dunno

I've been wondering what the actual difference between emo and screamo is. Is screamo effectively a more aggressive emo? And would Off Minor, CTTS etc. be emo or screamo? It confuses me.

gospel is so good guys

[QUOTE=SlightlyEpic;17043685]I've been wondering what the actual difference between emo and screamo is. Is screamo effectively a more aggressive emo? And would Off Minor, CTTS etc. be emo or screamo? It confuses me.[/QUOTE]

some people try to label the late '90s scene that started to combine grind rhythms into the sound as "screamo" i.e. Orchid, Jerome's Dream, etc. i think that is stupid and just label it all emo.

[QUOTE=SlightlyEpic;17043685]I've been wondering what the actual difference between emo and screamo is. Is screamo effectively a more aggressive emo? And would Off Minor, CTTS etc. be emo or screamo? It confuses me.[/QUOTE]

The mesh together really easily because screamo is basically just a more aggressive form of Emo.

I see Off Minor as Emo and CTTS as poopty screamo.

Haha, ok, cheers guys.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17043715]The mesh together really easily because screamo is basically just a more aggressive form of Emo.

I see Off Minor as Emo and CTTS as poopty screamo.[/QUOTE]

ctts as shitty? what are you crazy

ctts are

off minor aren't

except ctts is incredible