[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]AA medium crash or A custom medium crashes.[/QUOTE]
thanks :thumb:

any ideas for the ride or hats?

EDIT: also, what size crash?

[QUOTE=withering_rose]thanks :thumb:

any ideas for the ride or hats?

EDIT: also, what size crash?[/QUOTE]

well if youre just getting 1 crash then id suggest a 17.

[QUOTE=3_times_round]A customs are always more versatile. Z customs are designed for heavy playing.

For a crash I would say the 16" Rock crash. That 17" Medium will be VERY loud. Medium is the 2nd heaviest Z custom (I think).

Try some A Custom Mediums if you are looking for a hevay sound. I tried a 17" AC Medium today and it was fantastic. Warm and bright, but slightly darker than regualr AC's.

Maybe for hats try an A/Z combination? A Custom Top, Z custom mastersound bottom? Would be heavy and cutting, but failry versatile.

Edit: /\ New beats definetly are the most versatile.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I actually have both of those crashes, I was asking which hats would go well with them.

I tried them all out at the local music store, I think I'm going to go with the New Beats.

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]well if youre just getting 1 crash then id suggest a 17.[/QUOTE]
yeah, I can only afford one crash at the moment. would the 16 work? I've been listening to the sound clips on the site (I know they arn't great for what the cymbal actually sounds like but its all I've got for the moment) I'm likin the sound of the 16

/goes back listen to more clips

I'm liking the 17 a custom medium crash
still lookin for a ride and hats. for the ride I want something thats very crashable for rhythm and not to pingy. for hats, something that'll be good for rock/punk/hardcore and jazz

[QUOTE=withering_rose]yeah, I can only afford one crash at the moment. would the 16 work? I've been listening to the sound clips on the site (I know they arn't great for what the cymbal actually sounds like but its all I've got for the moment) I'm likin the sound of the 16

/goes back listen to more clips[/QUOTE]

nothin wrong with a 16. i was just suggesting a 17. i have 18 and 16 crashes.

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]nothin wrong with a 16. i was just suggesting a 17. i have 18 and 16 crashes.[/QUOTE]
I like the zildjian 17 a custom medium crash, but I want something with a bit more bite, more attack. I also like the sabian 16 AA medium crash, but again, I want something with more bite to it.
still lookin for ride and hat suggestions

[QUOTE=withering_rose]hardcore and jazz[/QUOTE]

I think black and white is putting it mildly......

Anyway, on a more serious note, you want versatility in that case. And when you want versatility, there is one hat that is god among bronze: New Beats :thumb:

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I think black and white is putting it mildly......

Anyway, on a more serious note, you want versatility in that case. And when you want versatility, there is one hat that is god among bronze: New Beats :thumb:[/QUOTE]

lol you and your new beats. youre right though.

I'm looking for some light hats, with a nice sizzle, but strong enough to stand up to some hard playing and able to be heard over 2 guitars and a bass in a live unmiced setting.

Oh and preferably in a medium price range

AAX Stage Hats for a lighter, yet equally versatile pairing

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I think black and white is putting it mildly......

Anyway, on a more serious note, you want versatility in that case. And when you want versatility, there is one hat that is god among bronze: New Beats :thumb:[/QUOTE]
I'm not going to be playing much jazz, it actually won't really have to sound good for jazz, the only time I'll be playing jazz is when my drum instructor gives a jazz peice for me to practice

when did zildjian stop making the z custom rock crashes that have star shaped punches rather than the round or circular ones they have today and had a large z printed on the opposite end of the cymbal insted of a small z next to the writing (z custom what ever) and where can i find the star shaped ones described above

E-bay. 1991 came to my head at first, but then was when they stopped making Z's and strated witn Z customs (I think.)

I'm pretty sure they still make ZC rock crashes, but the star hammering was stopped in 1991 (again, I'm not sure).

what would be the next best thing to the old z customs (i think they sound different but i may be wrong)

AA-Metal-X...??? Some one who knows more than me will give a better option.

In my opinion you should try out A customs. Much better cymbals.

an A Custom Projection Crash is a good one to go for if you want somethign like a rock crash. Same volume and projection as a rock crash, but you dont have to beat the **** out of it to get any sort of decent sound. its a much more lively cymbal as well, I guess you could describe it as being more "musical" than the rock crash.

You could also check out an A Custom Medium crash, but I've never had the chance to test one out so I would have no idea how it sounds.

Mediums are better than projections. They are heavier, but are more musical. Projections have a bad reputation for being the worst of the A customs.

I tried a 17" Medium the other day and it was fabolous. I'm getting a 19" in the next few weeks (if in stock when I go to America).

AA Medium and Rock. best heavy and medium cymbals....period (for bright tones anyway)

I'm Thinking of getting A custom Projection cymbals (20 ride, 18 crash, 18(non projection), and A custom 13 mastersound hats.
I currently have ZXT Titaniums... I know i know,.,,
But i play punk(blink) and i also have a grindcore band...
Any suggestions welcome.
What cymbals would you sugest that would be great for both styles?
thx,

:evil:

Okay, I need suggestions on crashes. I've narrowed my searching down to a few things. I like thesabian aax dark crash and the aa medium thin. So any suggestions along those lines (something dark) would be great. And in the price range as well. Thanks.

What type of music do you play? I am gonna recommend K Custom Dark Crashes for a dark cymbal, hence the name, but their volume isn't great. Possible a large A Custom Medium or Projection crash? Maybe a Z Custom if you are looking for volume.
Look into Paiste Dimensions, AAX and AA, K custom Dark, A custom Medium/Projection, Z custom.

[QUOTE]I'm Thinking of getting A custom Projection cymbals (20 ride, 18 crash, 18(non projection), and A custom 13 mastersound hats.
I currently have ZXT Titaniums... I know i know,.,,
But i play punk(blink) and i also have a grindcore band...
Any suggestions welcome.
What cymbals would you sugest that would be great for both styles?
thx,[/QUOTE]A Sweet Ride, A 17" AA Medium Crash, AAX 17" Stage Crash, AAX Stage Hats, I think that should work.

Ok, I'm hoping to buy a 19" A Custom Medium Crash when I go to America (tomorrow!), but in the sceanrio that it is not in stock (I have emailed the Guitar Centre nearest asking for it to be in stock, they haven't replied). So basically, looking for a cymbal that will be similar to the 19" ACM. I'm thinking along the lines of 19" or 20" A custom crashes.
Would an 18" K Custom Dark crash not have the same volume?
My budget will be about $230.

hi. Im looking for a ride that has a dry ping all over it. supposedly these are the most expensive, but i dont care, thats what losing my bank withdrawl card is for....? Any ideas to whcih cymbal?

im looking for a new crash and hi-hats. I play pop-punk, punk and some hardcore. Some of my favorite bands are fall out boy, green day, senses fail, AFI, alkaline trio, rise against etc. I was looking at the zildjian A series, but i don't really know much about sabian cymbals. Any suggestions?

A. Zildjian or Sabian AA Medium Crash. nuff said

[QUOTE=Dookie56]im looking for new hi-hats. I was looking at the zildjian A series. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

New Beats!

Quick story

Today at guitar center, I hit a ride without looking at what it was, and immediately thought "**** that thing sounds nice!" I look at it, and it is of course, my 20" K Custom Ride. God I love this thing.

[QUOTE=GooseFilms.net]Quick story

Today at guitar center, I hit a ride without looking at what it was, and immediately thought "**** that thing sounds nice!" I look at it, and it is of course, my 20" K Custom Ride. God I love this thing.[/QUOTE]

Interesting story. Do you usually randomly hit cymbals at GC :p

[QUOTE=Drummer54]Interesting story. Do you usually randomly hit cymbals at GC :p[/QUOTE]

thats the best way to do it. so then you arent lured by the look or brand of the cymbal.

True, I thought of that afterwards.... Seriously.. Im not just saying it because you did.

[QUOTE=Dookie56]im looking for a new crash and hi-hats. I play pop-punk, punk and some hardcore. Some of my favorite bands are fall out boy, green day, senses fail, AFI, alkaline trio, rise against etc. I was looking at the zildjian A series, but i don't really know much about sabian cymbals. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
aax should be a good choice, they are cheaper also.

AAX stage hats. 14inch on massmusic for $190 after shipping^^ :D

How's the 16" K Custom Special Dry Crash work out as a main crash? All I've got for crashes right now is a 14" AAX Studio.

I need two cymbols:
( I play in a Thrash Metal / Metal, band. )

[B]Sabian Hi-Hats 14" and Great for Metal.[/B]
(I have no price range)

And also...

[B]Sabian China 17" or 18" And it also should be a great Metal cymbol.
(I have no price range)[/B]


Thanks to who ever can help me out.

[QUOTE=CoolDude7767]I need two cymbols:
( I play in a Thrash Metal / Metal, band. )

[B]Sabian Hi-Hats 14" and Great for Metal.[/B]
(I have no price range)

And also...

[B]Sabian China 17" or 18" And it also should be a great Metal cymbol.
(I have no price range)[/B]


Thanks to who ever can help me out.[/QUOTE]

try some sabian AA rock hats. as for chinas go for an AA china, those are great.

How ya doin?

Im looking for a Zildjian Crash Cymbal that is loud, cuts through, and can take a beating....if you havent guest yet i play Punk Rock. A cymbal good enough to be used as a beatkeeper (but not craSHING A RIDE).

[QUOTE=AmericanIdiot72]How ya doin?

Im looking for a Zildjian Crash Cymbal that is loud, cuts through, and can take a beating....if you havent guest yet i play Punk Rock. A cymbal good enough to be used as a beatkeeper (but not craSHING A RIDE).[/QUOTE]

most cymbals can take a "beating" as long as you arent wailing on it like you want to kill it in a stupid manner. Id say a good crash would be an A custom medium crash. or an A series rock crash.

20" A Custom Medium or an A Crash-Ride