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Woodstock 03-15-2005 02:14 PM

Let it Be is a good rock album, Abbey Road is better.

pigonthewing82 03-15-2005 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]I have one bootleg where Syd Barrett (with Pink Floyd) are actully playing with them its called "What a Shame Mary Jane".[/QUOTE]

I have that one too, I think their best jam with another artist is Day Tripper with Hendrix, not just because its Hendrix, but because of what he did with the song. Its my new god.

DeusExMachina 03-15-2005 03:31 PM

Hendrix did Day Tripper with The Beatles? I've heard a lot of bootlegs of Hendrix performing Beatles stuff live, but I was unaware he did any of it actually with The Beatles...

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-15-2005 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Hendrix did Day Tripper with The Beatles? I've heard a lot of bootlegs of Hendrix performing Beatles stuff live, but I was unaware he did any of it actually with The Beatles...[/QUOTE]
Me either. Do they actully sing with him?

eghed 03-15-2005 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=GeorgeHarrison]I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their only real TRUE rock and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.[/QUOTE]


Well Let it Be was the only the last album released, the last recorded album was Abbey Road which is great one to have be the last.

eghed 03-15-2005 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]I have one bootleg where Syd Barrett (with Pink Floyd) are actully playing with them its called "What a Shame Mary Jane".[/QUOTE]


are you sure? because i've heard two versions of What's the new Mary Jane
the one on Anthology and an acoustic one. neither of which had pink floyd

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-15-2005 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]I have that one too, I think their best jam with another artist is Day Tripper with Hendrix, not just because its Hendrix, but because of what he did with the song. Its my new god.[/QUOTE]
I just downloaded it I dont think its the Beatles it sounds like the other 2. (forgot their names?) I could be wrong. Good cover.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-15-2005 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=eghed]are you sure? because i've heard two versions of What's the new Mary Jane
the one on Anthology and an acoustic one. neither of which had pink floyd[/QUOTE]
Well the one Im talking about is a crappy bootleg where they are all are so stoned their laughing in it and you can here Syd's voice.

DeusExMachina 03-15-2005 08:59 PM

Schyma, mad props on the icon. That's such a good movie.

pigonthewing82 03-15-2005 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]I just downloaded it I dont think its the Beatles it sounds like the other 2. (forgot their names?) I could be wrong. Good cover.[/QUOTE]

Yea it could be, well either way I also have a cover of them doing Yesterday with him, and I know its all of them because they are teaching it to him before the jam, whitch was intesting to hear.

clown_phobia 03-16-2005 03:36 AM

[QUOTE=GeorgeHarrison]I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their only real TRUE rock and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.[/QUOTE]

Let it be was going to be called, 'Get Back' and Paul wanted it to be their 'back to their roots' album. It was going to be a rock and roll record.

coolidgeALL 03-16-2005 06:43 AM

Let it be, one of my fav. albums

Sgt._Joker 03-16-2005 07:41 AM

[QUOTE=GeorgeHarrison]I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their [B]only [/B]real [B]TRUE rock [/B]and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.[/QUOTE]

Beatles True Rcok albumns:

Please Please Me
Help
Hard Days Night
Rubber Soul
Let It be


*apologises if i forgot anything

Sho 03-16-2005 12:29 PM

My mom owns [I]Hard Day's Night[/I], and it's what really got me interested in music at all. Before that record (yes, my mom had one of the original pressings of the record, and a turntable to play it on), I never listened to anything outside of the radio. Now, I listen to a huge range of stuff. To me, that's the album that changed my outlook on music.

Now, I've heard alot about [I]The White Album[/I], but is there really anything beyond the hype? I've never actually listened to it.

JamesPatrickPageZoSo 03-16-2005 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Yea it could be, well either way I also have a cover of them doing Yesterday with him, and I know its all of them because they are teaching it to him before the jam, whitch was intesting to hear.[/QUOTE]


where is this found, i'd love to hear it

DeusExMachina 03-16-2005 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=Sho]Now, I've heard alot about [I]The White Album[/I], but is there really anything beyond the hype? I've never actually listened to it.[/QUOTE]

It's good. But not jawdropping or anything. Personally, one of the weaker post-66 releases.

pigonthewing82 03-16-2005 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=JamesPatrickPageZoSo]where is this found, i'd love to hear it[/QUOTE]

I got it from a friend, but if he signs on before I leave I'll ask him.

pigonthewing82 03-16-2005 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]It's good. But not jawdropping or anything. Personally, one of the weaker post-66 releases.[/QUOTE]

I disagree I think its one of their best. I mean its hard to say because the Beatles went through so many different changes what one fan conciders to be jawdropping another could concider it only ok. I feel its a good start if you like the more rock and roll Beatles (though Abby Road is better).

funkybeeatch14 03-16-2005 04:24 PM

I like anything past Rubber Soul, I'm not really a fan of the earlier Beatles. Other than that, I love the White Album and Abbey Road.

DonMancini 03-16-2005 05:54 PM

I've had Eleanor Rigby stuck in my head for a day now... hum

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-16-2005 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Schyma, mad props on the icon. That's such a good movie.[/QUOTE]
Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)

pigonthewing82 03-16-2005 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)[/QUOTE]

I actually rented the movie not to long ago, but in the same rent rented Garage Days, and that consumed the whole time I had them for, but I've probally listened to the sound track more times then I can count.

Krabsworth 03-16-2005 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)[/QUOTE]

i saw it on amc or somethingthing, i wish they would play it more, cuz i dont own it

Sgt._Joker 03-17-2005 12:48 AM

[QUOTE=Med57]I would say that [I]Please Please Me[/I] is a [B]pure pop album [/B]personally, although it does have rock moments on. I don't own [I]Help![/I] or [I]A Hard Day's Night[/I], but from all accounts I'd put them in that sort of category as well. The Beatles are very hard to classify as a band though.[/QUOTE]

by [B]todays [/B]standards, yes,except for I saw her standing there and Twist and Shout

blue3 03-17-2005 02:50 AM

Twist and Shout's a great song..

PinkFreud 03-17-2005 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)[/QUOTE]
i own it. its great. jack nicholson is one of my favorite actors ever. and the soundtracks awesome.

DeusExMachina 03-17-2005 03:53 PM

The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-17-2005 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.[/QUOTE]
It left me with my mouth open...it was so sad. :upset:

B0nz0 03-17-2005 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.[/QUOTE]

yes they were different. 1. the beatles had talent
2. the beatles weren't just created by a producer for a couple of easy hits and then dropped like a rock (the way the backstreet boys were). they were an actual band (well except ringo, who was just thrown in there by a producer, but he worked out right?)
3. while poppy, the beatles were able to create decent albums, with a number of good songs, while backstreet boys maybe had one or two "good song" per album.

DeusExMachina 03-17-2005 04:57 PM

I specifically said not musically speaking. All your examples are about musical difference. The Beatles had a magazine they published, were worshipped by little girls, their concerts weren't actually musical events so much as people being like, "omg, leyk, teh beatles lololol!!" much like Backstreet Boys concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, including their early stuff, but I fail to see how people can argue that they weren't essentially a boy band up until around Rubber Soul.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-17-2005 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I specifically said not musically speaking. All your examples are about musical difference. The Beatles had a magazine they published, were worshipped by little girls, their concerts weren't actually musical events so much as people being like, "omg, leyk, teh beatles lololol!!" much like Backstreet Boys concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, including their early stuff, but I fail to see how people can argue that they weren't essentially a boy band up until around Rubber Soul.[/QUOTE]
What would we have done without Dr. Robert and the speicial plant?

Walrus Gumboot 03-17-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.[/QUOTE]

The subject of the songs in their pre-Rubber Soul albums (lyrically speaking) were similar to the boy band's and earlier rock'n roll. Its the basic "Boy meets girl" or "boy breaks up with girl" format that was broken after Rubber Soul that has been comming back, especially in the late 90's.. It's kinda sad

Walrus Gumboot 03-17-2005 07:13 PM

John worte "How do you sleep?" as a shot against McCartney
McCarteny wrote "Silly Love Songs" Lennon

Who won?

DeusExMachina 03-17-2005 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]John worte "How do you sleep?" as a shot against McCartney
McCarteny wrote "Silly Love Songs" Lennon

Who won?[/QUOTE]

Eh? What're you asking? Far as I can tell, Silly Love Songs has nothing to do with Lennon. However, if you're talking about who "won" an arbitrary squabble between them, I say it doesn't really matter either way.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-17-2005 09:13 PM

Ninja editing shouldn't be allowed.



*kidding*

pigonthewing82 03-17-2005 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]John worte "How do you sleep?" as a shot against McCartney
McCarteny wrote "Silly Love Songs" Lennon

Who won?[/QUOTE]

Yoko, meh she seems to be the only one who got what they wanted.

PinkFreud 03-17-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]It left me with my mouth open...it was so sad. :upset:[/QUOTE]
absolutely. took me by surprise. especially because i got to like dennis hoppers character.

DeusExMachina 03-17-2005 09:57 PM

It was pretty out of nowhere. I don't quite see the point of having that in the ending. But, I'm too much obsessed with literary merit. **** english classes...

Seafroggys 03-17-2005 11:48 PM

Easy Rider was a great movie. I saw that and Clockwork Orange at the same time...I must say the best song from Easy Rider was Pusher.

Anyway, back to Beatle business.

Even though the subject matter of the Beatles 65 and earlier was rather simplistic, it still was more complex then most other poppy love songs. She Loves You was the first song I believe written in third to second person. There's not too many songs like that.

JamesPatrickPageZoSo 03-18-2005 01:08 AM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I specifically said not musically speaking. All your examples are about musical difference. The Beatles had a magazine they published, were worshipped by little girls, their concerts weren't actually musical events so much as people being like, "omg, leyk, teh beatles lololol!!" much like Backstreet Boys concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, including their early stuff, but I fail to see how people can argue that they weren't essentially a boy band up until around Rubber Soul.[/QUOTE]


...and thats the very reason they stopped touring. they knew thats how they were looked at and they could never improve live cause they couldnt be heard. thats why they stuck to being geniouses in the studio


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