[QUOTE=bwnstl]The bass is really catchy on With Teeth. On all the other albums everything is usually really layered over everything so the bass doesn't really stand out.[/QUOTE]
That's what I was mainly focusing on.

Bass is supposed to be layer into the music though, if you remove it you could probablly tell that the void of their sound is missing.

[QUOTE=Werny]What about on Pretty Hate Machine? The bass is the prominent instrument for a few songs on that, and it's lovely.[/QUOTE]

True, but PHM sucks balls. :(

[QUOTE=misunderstood]Yeah, it is. I also thought it was very bass driven the first few times I heard it. I like it though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, seems like Teh Reznor has a newfound obsession with the low end; notice how bass and drum driven the entire WT album is, not to mention it was the first album he used live drums on.

[QUOTE=Acoustic Bandit]Bass is supposed to be layer into the music though, if you remove it you could probablly tell that the void of their sound is missing.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I think it's so layered on TDS and most of The Fragile that it's incomprehensible, and I like being able to hear it because it makes it easier to figure out how to play. =P

PHM don't suck ball :angry: its an excellent record... i listened to it a lot recently and i like it a lot.

Trent used bass lines all the time... the first time i really recognised them in the songs was TDS. especially in Heresy i think, but i'm not sure... maybe it was another song.

I ****ing love pretty hate machine. That and downward spiral are really the only ones I like.

[QUOTE=bwnstl]
I agree, but I think it's so layered on TDS and most of The Fragile that it's incomprehensible, and I like being able to hear it because it makes it easier to figure out how to play. =P[/QUOTE]
Of course, there's Just Like You Imagined and La Mer that both have very prominent and melodic bass lines that drive the songs.

I listened through NIN's entire discography last night. Actually, it was only the four main LPs, but it was still very cool. None of those records have lost any of their luster over the years.

[QUOTE=King B]I ****ing love pretty hate machine. That and downward spiral are really the only ones I like.[/QUOTE]

Downward spiral was a pretty good album, I too enjoyed it

[QUOTE=Kage]Of course, there's Just Like You Imagined and La Mer that both have very prominent and melodic bass lines that drive the songs.

I listened through NIN's entire discography last night. Actually, it was only the four main LPs, but it was still very cool. None of those records have lost any of their luster over the years.[/QUOTE]

Why I said MOST of The Fragile. :)

OH, and I utterly hate PHM. It's just a boring record. The songs put me to sleep.

ringfinger, sanctified, something i can never have, down in it, sin ... are all from PHM and they are all great!

[QUOTE=Kage]I listened through NIN's entire discography last night. Actually, it was only the four main LPs, but it was still very cool. None of those records have lost any of their luster over the years.[/QUOTE]
that's one of these things i do too, from time to time... the whole night long only NIN :D

Sanctified, Something I Can Never Have, and Sin are the only songs I like from it. Head Like a Hole and Terrible Lie were amazing live, but on the record it's just blah.

Head like a hole and terrible lie are live far most better, but on the record they are not revolutionary but OK.

beside that: the best Something i can never have version is a) on the Still cd, b) on Natural Born Killers soundtrack :D

[QUOTE=repcak]Head like a hole and terrible lie are live far most better, but on the record they are not revolutionary but OK.[/QUOTE]



I agree with that soo much.

Has anyone of you seen "Broken - the movie" ?! want to know what you think about it.... :rolleyes:

Boring. Except for the Happiness in Slavery part.

boring? hm... i have't seen the whole film, only some scenes and it seems very brutal.... it reminds me snuff-films (-> 8mm: have you seen the film? with nicolas cage)

edit: i just watched the whole movie... hm... i still don't understand why Trent Reznor made this film... why?!

I've seen pieces of it. They screened the "Happiness in Slavery" video at the [I]With Teeth [/I]release party I attended last year. It was...gruesome. I couldn't stop watching though, heh.:amaze: Anyway, I did read however that the reason Reznor did the [I]Broken Movie[/I] was simply to see how far he could get with it. I think it was at the time he was having problems with his label and they were trying to control his every move or something. Guess he was just trying to piss them off.

Then he goes on and says that the reason he never released the movie was because he didn't want to have to explain it to every reporter he met...said it made the 'Happiness in Slavery' video look like a Disney movie. :confused:

By the way, Repcak, where'd you find the movie?

Broken was indicated ... forbidden... you can't buy it, but i found it on emule (2p2 network)

in this video you see how a man is kidnapped by another person, who rapes him, tortures him and kills him in the end... aerated with the videoclips of 'wish' and 'happiness in slavery'

and i agree with you; i too think that reznor wanted to see how far he can go until people/publicity will shout:"stop" ... he achieved his goal :p

[QUOTE=repcak]boring? hm... i have't seen the whole film, only some scenes and it seems very brutal.... it reminds me snuff-films (-> 8mm: have you seen the film? with nicolas cage)

edit: i just watched the whole movie... hm... i still don't understand why Trent Reznor made this film... why?![/QUOTE]
I've never seen the whole movie, but I have seen parts of it, and that was my exact question as well: Why?!

I mean, stuff that derranged doesn't come from a normal person. But what Misunderstood said seems very logical, plus Reznor was about as heavy an alcoholic as you can get.

Closer is a far better artistic statement. The video is very surreal, but still very expressive and very cool. Then he became even more refined through the Fragile into the s[size=2]hit[/size] that he's calling a NIN video with songs like Only.

i won't call Trent Reznor a normal person... (like me). Trent Reznor is sick and his sickest phase in his life he had in broken. you only have to look at the lyrics, the video of happiness in slavery and the movie. its sick sick sick.

the biggest contradiction was to see the video "happiness in slavery" (for the first time) and right afterwards seeing the video "non-entity" live. it was so paradox. i couldn't/or better: it's hard to believe, that it was the same person, only 12years later. he changed so much during his lifetime.

and to be serious i don't want to know in what a bad (mental-) constitution he was, during "broken". it was his worst lifetime ever (i think)

the other point for broken, i supposse is the fact that he wanted to provoke the world... for whatever reason, i don't know. maybe he didn't really wanted to get such famous and wanted to destruct everything ... maybe this is 'broken' - a status: mr. sefldestruct his own musical career.


offtopic: @kage: do you still wanna make this pen pal thing?

Trent Reznor is not sick....
The only coherent way you could make the argument that he's sick is if you consider his alcoholism. Mentally he seems like an amazingly generous and kind person. He's campaigned against fur for PETA and done concert efforts to raise money to help the victims of Katrina.

now... now he is clean! but during broken and TDS he was mentally sick.. had depressions and so on. After The Fragile tour he collapsed completly and went for a rehab to a clinic.

yeah, if i ever have to do a biography for school, Trent would probably be one of the most interesting people to do.

i've done it. for my matura exam i've wrote a special topic about Trent Reznor... about 13pages long.
afterwards i edited it a little bit and posted it on mx -> featured artist serie

Im gonna have to read that, perhaps you can post a linky linky?

[QUOTE=repcak]

the other point for broken, i supposse is the fact that he wanted to provoke the world... for whatever reason, i don't know. maybe he didn't really wanted to get such famous and wanted to destruct everything ... maybe this is 'broken' - a status: mr. sefldestruct his own musical career.


[/QUOTE]

Didn't he release Broken because of the record label being a twat? From what I hear, he had all of this anger from the record label messing him around so he wanted it to be as abrasive and disgusting as possible.

I tell you what, it definitely worked! Industrial reigns supreme as the harshest genre of music.

On another note, I still haven't really listened to With Teeth. It doesn't grab me.

And another note... I'm really loving Underneath It All right now. A really tragic song, to me.

Industrial is the harshest music? Umm.....what are you smoking?

i can agree with him.... although not 100%, but i think i know what he means. Industrial - the real one - was/is sometimes really harsh, and you can't compare it with NIN.
Industrial takes getting used to and is shocking. Listen to the old Skinny Puppy records or to Einstürzende Neubauten - Kollaps (i still can't listen to this record).

And the link for the FA about NIN:
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394207[/url]

So...I go to the University of New Brunswick and I recently won a contest having to do with my off campus meal plan. I won $1000 toward a Spring Break vacation and I think I am gonna use it to see Nine Inch Nails in London, Ontario on March 6 with one friend :D:D:D:D. We never get any good concerts over here, so this is like a dream come true!

[QUOTE=repcak]i can agree with him.... although not 100%, but i think i know what he means. Industrial - the real one - was/is sometimes really harsh, and you can't compare it with NIN.
Industrial takes getting used to and is shocking. Listen to the old Skinny Puppy records or to Einstürzende Neubauten - Kollaps (i still can't listen to this record).

And the link for the FA about NIN:
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394207[/url][/QUOTE]

I agree, NIN is NOT industrial. But real industrial is nowhere near the harshest music that exists.

[QUOTE=bwnstl]Trent Reznor is not sick....
The only coherent way you could make the argument that he's sick is if you consider his alcoholism. Mentally he seems like an amazingly generous and kind person. He's campaigned against fur for PETA and done concert efforts to raise money to help the victims of Katrina.[/QUOTE]

is he a vegan

Does anyone else think The Great Below is one of NIN best songs?