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benfan 06-09-2010 05:29 AM

So after reading up some more on the issue, im thinking about getting a Line 6 interface with Pod Farm as opposed to buying a Pod X3. From what iv read the Pod Farm plugin is far more flexible than presets on the Pod and GearBox. And i wont be using the Pod live anyway. Anyone got any advice on this?

The Transporter 06-09-2010 07:26 AM

I use Toneport UX1 with PodFarm (there is now PodFarm2, but I don't really know the perks) and it's decent. Never can quite achieve a tone that I'm happy with every time I plug in, but that's how it goes. I recommend the Solo 100 (Soldano) guitar amp model, maybe dualed with the Citrus (Orange). Probably use the V-30 cab on both, but maybe a little bassier one on the Citrus

Convectuoso 06-09-2010 02:48 PM

[quote=arthurwalwin;18021297]Good head and cab + a 57..can't go wrong :)[/quote]
I'd agree with this if it weren't for the fact that most of us live in small bedrooms with shitty acoustics and want to be nice to our flat mates :P


I mean if it was up to me we'd all have triple rect's and the best mics available...maybe one day!

benfan 06-09-2010 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;18023673]I'd agree with this if it weren't for the fact that most of us live in small bedrooms with poopty acoustics and want to be nice to our flat mates :P


I mean if it was up to me we'd all have triple rect's and the best mics available...maybe one day![/QUOTE]

And an awesome space with wicked acoustics to crank up the recto!

The Transporter 06-09-2010 02:53 PM

no thx on the triple recto, yes plz on a bogner uberschall

benfan 06-09-2010 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=The Transporter;18023688]no thx on the triple recto, yes plz on a bogner uberschall[/QUOTE]


I remember seeing Avenged Sevenfold and one of the guitarists had taken out a letter on the front of his Bogner so it said 'Boner'....................i thought it was funny!

If i wanted to record a dry signal into cubase using a pod x3 into an FP10 which outs from the pod would i use? And its going into the input section on the back of the Presonus?

Kuffuffled 06-09-2010 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=The Transporter;18023688]no thx on the triple recto, yes plz on a bogner uberschall[/QUOTE]

Yes!

Xomblies 06-11-2010 10:23 AM

don't hate on mesas, they're amazing heads if you know how to sweet talk the rectifier tubes

Convectuoso 06-11-2010 02:59 PM

Elitist guitarists, jebus christ! I'd take anything with a decent brand reputation and full tube.

Xomblies 06-11-2010 03:09 PM

well, just cause it has tubes doesn't mean the circuitry is designed well :) but a mesa... come now, it's an amazing head, that's what i used in those recordings for the chase and what i'm going to be using above having access to ubershall's and diezels etc... when it comes down to it, it's more preference than anything

Convectuoso 06-11-2010 03:29 PM

Lol totally. I think if you can't get a good tone out of a decent Mesa it's not the amp's fault...

Are you making a new album with The Chase or a new band?

Xomblies 06-11-2010 03:31 PM

For now it's both but if things go well it'll all be for the chase

JoshIsNumber3 06-11-2010 05:11 PM

just got my new monitors man they sound nice

Kuffuffled 06-11-2010 05:14 PM

watchu buy

Xomblies 06-11-2010 05:25 PM

sweet what kind?

JoshIsNumber3 06-11-2010 07:15 PM

i got a set of rokit 8s for relatively cheap. i wanted the HS80Ms but didn't want to break the bank for my birthday. even though they're not the worlds best monitors, it's a tremendous change going from computer speakers or pod + headphones

Kuffuffled 06-11-2010 08:02 PM

Those are pretty big, they'll give you some boom boom

purple_hazer 06-12-2010 11:00 AM

monitors are how you get better mixes in general eh?

Convectuoso 06-12-2010 02:03 PM

They don't make your mix sound any better directly obviously. But the better the monitors the more detail you can hear in your mix and the less wrong eq you'll be doing for the most part.

Eg: You have pretty bass light speakers, so in all your mixes you add a **** load of bass to compensate. Then you go listen on another system and it's washed out from all the lows/low mids that have been added.

Vice versa etc etc.

JoshIsNumber3 06-13-2010 11:21 AM

where can you get impulse responses from?

mnemonic 06-13-2010 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;18028227]They don't make your mix sound any better directly obviously. But the better the monitors the more detail you can hear in your mix and the less wrong eq you'll be doing for the most part.

Eg: You have pretty bass light speakers, so in all your mixes you add a **** load of bass to compensate. Then you go listen on another system and it's washed out from all the lows/low mids that have been added.

Vice versa etc etc.[/QUOTE]

i agree with this.

i see two big advantages to using quality monitors over some other audio source, first is a more balanced speaker; you dont get overemphasized bass frequencies and underemphasized mid frequencies like most home audio systems.

second advantage i see is that most monitor headphones and monitor speakers are much clearer sounding than other sources, and you can hear your mix in much greater detail. i was really suprised how much more i heard when i picked up a pair of sony mdrv6 headphones. great investment, imo.


i know alot of people argue that using some home audio source or computer speakers are fine for using for mixing if you know how they respond, which is partly true, as if you know how the speakers respond (meaning you know where the hills and valleys are in the speakers response), you can adjust your mixes accordingly, but the level of clarity and detail you get from monitors is hard to match unless you're using a pretty expensive soundsystem.


[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3;18029646]where can you get impulse responses from?[/QUOTE]

from me, [url]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I0LZ3MUY[/url]

Xomblies 06-13-2010 04:33 PM

you'd like the mdr7506's they're my favs

mnemonic 06-13-2010 06:57 PM

i read tons of reviews before i got the v6's and i read from alot of people that the 7506's weren't that much different from the v6's so i just went with the cheaper one.


also, i just looked up prices on amazon, and did the prices go down? i could have sworn the prices were higher, (v6 around $70 or $80, and the 7506 at over $100). maybe i'm just remembering wrong.

JoshIsNumber3 06-13-2010 11:01 PM

max when i use my impulses, they work amazing if the guitar is clean, but when i add drive or the tubescreamer on the podx3, it just adds hiss and noise in the background while keeping the main signal

would you like to know more?

mnemonic 06-13-2010 11:15 PM

man i love starship troopers

what impulse host are you using?


brb logging into aim

Kuffuffled 06-14-2010 01:35 PM

If you're using voxengo boogex or whatever it's called you need to turn to drive off

I'd suggest keFIR I like it alot better, it's simpler, and make sure you're turning off your speaker emulation on your POD. It has that amirite?

Xomblies 06-14-2010 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=mnemonic;18030268]i read tons of reviews before i got the v6's and i read from alot of people that the 7506's weren't that much different from the v6's so i just went with the cheaper one.


also, i just looked up prices on amazon, and did the prices go down? i could have sworn the prices were higher, (v6 around $70 or $80, and the 7506 at over $100). maybe i'm just remembering wrong.[/QUOTE]

no way, they're 80bucks!! i haven't heard v6's but i would imagine they're about the same, only downside is they're a LITTLE top heavy

mnemonic 06-14-2010 08:48 PM

yeah they're a bit uncomfortable after a while. i usually mix stuff in one long go, so the tops of my ears are like numb by the time i'm done.

probably the best sounding cans for under $100 though, so i dont mind

temptationdenied 06-16-2010 11:23 AM

Hello benfan,

As far as recording software goes, EnergyXT is actually an excellent DAW which gives you great flexibility for a very reasonable price. The only drawback is that you can't record a song with multiple tempos. It has "Pro Tools" like features for a fraction of the price. These is a bit of a learning curve though. Audacity is an excellent starter program though. I still use it to lay down riffs quick.

For guitar, the POD series is popular, but I personally love a SHURE SM57 from a cab into a mixing board. Also, depending on how serious you get with it, the Axe-FX is one of the most flexible units on and off the stage you can have.

For drums, Superior drummer is absolutely phenomenal. Many of the "djent" bands ala Periphery use it and you can get excellent sounds from it. You can program them, or use an electronic kit via midi into a board and use drum replacements. A good starter program would be Accoustica Beatcraft.

I personally don't mind mixing on headphones, but of course this is completely subjective. I like mixing on headphones because you can hear every single nuance in the recording, unless you want to spend quite a bit on monitors.

I don't know if you're doing vocals, but look into the RODE series mic's (NT1A). You can actually use them for a variety of purposes as it is a condenser mic.

Just my opinions, but it works pretty well for me. Hope my information is of some use.

Xomblies 06-18-2010 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=mnemonic;18031676]yeah they're a bit uncomfortable after a while. i usually mix stuff in one long go, so the tops of my ears are like numb by the time i'm done.

probably the best sounding cans for under $100 though, so i dont mind[/QUOTE]

lol no i mean in a sonic spectrum, the top end of the signal is boosted a tiny bit :p

mnemonic 06-18-2010 11:42 AM

oh yeah.

i thought you were saying something about not being able to headbang with them on, haha.

benfan 07-28-2010 02:03 PM

Bump.

What DAW is everyone using? Im about to drop around £350 on Cubase 4 cause from what iv read its the best version.

EmbraceRandom 07-28-2010 02:05 PM

Pro Tools LE 8.0.4

I love it.

Kuffuffled 07-28-2010 02:38 PM

Use reaper

EmbraceRandom 07-28-2010 03:14 PM

I've heard good things about Reaper, but then everyone has! Do you use it/

Kuffuffled 07-28-2010 06:02 PM

Yea been using it for almost 2 years. I've used a little bit of logic and seen videos of other programs, and they don't seem as simple to navigate.

I started using it not knowing ANYTHING about "hosts", I just wanted to use superior drummer.

EmbraceRandom 07-29-2010 01:25 AM

Ah right, cool. Yeah Superior Drummer is immense, they had a deal on recently (not sure if it's still on), all the EZX's were only £20. Still looking at the SDX Metal Foundry though, really want it! I'll just have to do with DfH until I get it

Kuffuffled 07-29-2010 01:57 AM

I haven't used metal foundry a whole lot but so far I don't really like it. It's really flat sounding

EmbraceRandom 07-29-2010 10:52 AM

In what way? What do you mean by flat sounding?

Kuffuffled 07-29-2010 02:13 PM

Like it's stale and doesn't have much life. I haven't spent a whole lot of time with it. Whether it needs lots of mixing / plugin work I don't know cause SD2 sounds good as soon as you fire it up.

Addictive drums sound better, they're alot more acoustic though.


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