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laura_au 06-17-2005 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=fallenstar]I have some pretty good ideas what a poser is, but I want to hear from you posters. What do posers act like. What is really a poser. Why do people hate em, so\\ much. What do you think of posers. Please post your Ideas.(thanks) :smash: :evil: :evil: :evil: then :cool:[/QUOTE]

not again

Scoot 06-18-2005 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=STINKYnuts]Posers are the kids that are so wrapped up in what's cool and what's not, that they forget who they are. They're so desperate for attention that they trick themeselves into thinking somethings cool. Often the spoiled kids, they always get the latest equipment, even though they have no clue what it is, and in some cases can't play it (ie guitars etc.). The posers kill it.[/QUOTE]

And what a good first post it was!

Dextomethorphan 06-18-2005 12:35 PM

I think people mistake oblivious listeners for posers. My friend listens to Simple Plan, Evenescense, Good Charlotte, New Found Glory, and 50 Cent, but he doesn't claim to be a "gansta" or a metalhead or a punk. He's a very average person who loves playing the piano. A lot of posers like that music, but that doesn't make him a poser.

I used to think poser was just a skateboard term, cause these kids made fun of a guy that skated because his shoes weren't scuffed up (aperently they become sscuffed when you do tricks.) So the next day he came to school ad they were all scaped-up looking. Turns out he had spent the afternoon rubbing them against a brick wall.

Stevie 06-18-2005 12:47 PM

It's in the title. Posers are people who pose as something they're not for whatever reason.

Scoot 06-18-2005 12:48 PM

[QUOTE=Dextomethorphan]I think people mistake oblivious listeners for posers. My friend listens to Simple Plan, Evenescense, Good Charlotte, New Found Glory, and 50 Cent, but he doesn't claim to be a "gansta" or a metalhead or a punk. He's a very average person who loves playing the piano. A lot of posers like that music, but that doesn't make him a poser.

I used to think poser was just a skateboard term, cause these kids made fun of a guy that skated because his shoes weren't scuffed up (aperently they become sscuffed when you do tricks.) So the next day he came to school ad they were all scaped-up looking. Turns out he had spent the afternoon rubbing them against a brick wall.[/QUOTE]

I hate when people make fun of you for wearing skater clothes when you USED to skate. I used to and people still make fun of me. I just say "**** you!" and walk away. I don't think many people do skate anymore, anyways.

Stevie 06-18-2005 12:53 PM

[QUOTE=scoot_14]I hate when people make fun of you for wearing skater clothes when you USED to skate. I used to and people still make fun of me. I just say "**** you!" and walk away. I don't think many people do skate anymore, anyways.[/QUOTE]

Well what the hell do you expect people to think if you wear skater clothes? Perhaps people should now consider that perhaps people are not sporting the trend they advertise with their clothing, rather they used to skate. Hell - why not have a label to all people saying "Note please: I USED to skate, now I do not, though I still wear the same clothes. Thank you, and good day!"

Scoot 06-18-2005 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=Stevie]Well what the hell do you expect people to think if you wear skater clothes? Perhaps people should now consider that perhaps people are not sporting the trend they advertise with their clothing, rather they used to skate. Hell - why not have a label to all people saying "Note please: I USED to skate, now I do not, though I still wear the same clothes. Thank you, and good day!"[/QUOTE]

Good point.

It's like this. Posers are out to steal somebody else's glory and they are usually jealous bastards.

James Van Halen 06-20-2005 11:10 PM

I don't care if people listen to ****ty music, as long as they don't claim that they're hardcore, or a metalhead. Like my friend that listens to Mudvayne, Static X and Slipknot and thinks he's the most hardcore metalhead in the whole town...I let him listen to my Arch Enemy album and he said it scared him too much to listen to it. It wasn't even scary, it was ****ing Anthems Of Rebellion. That, my friends, is a poser.

Scoot 06-21-2005 08:06 PM

Well said.

poser

n. A wannabee; not hacker slang, but used among
"crackers", "phreaks" and "warez d00dz". Not as negative as lamer or
leech. Probably derives from a similar usage among "punk-rockers"
and "metalheads", putting down those who "talk the talk but don't walk
the walk".

an actual definition from Dictionary.com

flamesofbodom 06-21-2005 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=James Van Halen]I don't care if people listen to ****ty music, as long as they don't claim that they're hardcore, or a metalhead. Like my friend that listens to Mudvayne, Static X and Slipknot and thinks he's the most hardcore metalhead in the whole town...I let him listen to my Arch Enemy album and he said it scared him too much to listen to it. It wasn't even scary, it was ****ing Anthems Of Rebellion. That, my friends, is a poser.[/QUOTE]

I like all the bands listed above. I love that Arch Enemy cd. Still sometimes when there's someone listening to Good Charlotte and thinking they're punk makes me want to punch their throat

Dextomethorphan 06-21-2005 08:49 PM

Mudvayne is the only nu-metal band I can stand. I don't even like any other form of metal(except some metalcore...converge?) Does that make me a poser?

i am the robots 06-21-2005 09:10 PM

shut up poser

AIC/EAZY-E 06-21-2005 09:30 PM

I was playing Whole Lotta Love on guitar, then this girl in my music class across the room goes 'Hey, you can play the Top of the Pops theme song!' I explained the song was originally Led Zeppelin, she then responded 'I love that guy'. I just didn't reply.

Dextomethorphan 06-21-2005 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=AIC/EAZY-E]I was playing Whole Lotta Love on guitar, then this girl in my music class across the room goes 'Hey, you can play the Top of the Pops theme song!' I explained the song was originally Led Zeppelin, she then responded 'I love that guy'. I just didn't reply.[/QUOTE]

I love it

Nostalgia 06-21-2005 10:19 PM

I have a question, you aren't defined as a poser if you where band T-shirts are you? I don't where them every day or anything I just got a slayer tour shirt at a concert but from what I heard like 14 year old kids just like live at hot topic buying band shirts and fish net stalkings but just because you where a band shirt once and a while doesn't define you as a poser does it?

BassMasterMike88 06-21-2005 11:05 PM

I just want to say the NOT every Slipknot fan is a poser, I got into Slipknot about 4 years back and I see their shows and listen to their material due to the fact that I like their sound, not cause I'm trying to make a diffenent image of myself, if you talk to a poser sporting a Knot t-shirt you'll figure out their a poser because the only song they've heard is "Duality"

Scoot 06-21-2005 11:34 PM

Okay.

Calling someone a poser because of what music they listen to is retarted. It makes no sense and doesn't convince me in the least. Going up to someone and saying,"Hey, you like Mudvayne, you're a poser!" is just plain stupid.

However, buying certain things just to look cool or "because you can" is being a poser.

comptonassrobert 06-22-2005 01:40 PM

A poser would be someone who just jumps on the bandwagon to look cool, whether he even knows which bandwagon he is going on or not.
"Slipknot sucks"
poser replies "yeahe slipknot totally like scuks and is hORrible, sellout freaks"
"Yeah, what songs have you heard?"
"uhh duality i think, that song is the taotal sellouts huh".

that is one form of a poser. another could be:
"man do i love slipknot"
poser replies "yeah, they totally pWN"
"Yeah, what songs have you heard?"
"uhh, duality it hhink, but MTV said it was good so it is TOTALLy hXc METAL!!"

for the record, i like slipknot. also for the record, Joy Divison kicks a.ss. i havent heard much mention of them on these forums

KittensInMicrowaves 06-22-2005 01:52 PM

Why would you buy a band's T-shirt if you don't listen to them?

Hot Topic is the gayest store, I hate those clothes........

down025 06-22-2005 02:00 PM

I consider a poser to wear make up and girl pants. Looking like a female is not metal. Now I bet some smart *** will say "BUT DOWN025 IN THE 80S BANDS DID THE SAME THING NUHAHUHU" well atleast those bands kicked ***.

Shattered_Future 06-22-2005 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=down025]I consider a poser to wear make up and girl pants. Looking like a female is not metal. Now I bet some smart *** will say "BUT DOWN025 IN THE 80S BANDS DID THE SAME THING NUHAHUHU" well atleast those bands kicked ***.[/QUOTE]

Dude...you're a fu[COLOR=White]c[/COLOR]kwit. :thumb:

M3rL1N 06-22-2005 05:32 PM

ok so what about the guys that wear makeup and girl pants that know more about good music than you. what does that make you

super/mars/volta 06-22-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=down025]I consider a poser to wear make up and girl pants. Looking like a female is not metal. Now I bet some smart *** will say "BUT DOWN025 IN THE 80S BANDS DID THE SAME THING NUHAHUHU" well atleast those bands kicked ***.[/QUOTE]

most kids in girl pants dont like metal, as a matter of fact every kid i know in girl pants is into hxc not metal and if they are wearing make-up they are probly at an Atreyu show so i wouldnt take them seriously. also Rob halford and Phil from pantera two metal guys that take it like females so you may want to reconsider your line of thinking.

Child of the Grave 06-22-2005 08:32 PM

i believe that no matter how you define a poser, you'll just know one when you see one.

PepsiMetal 06-22-2005 09:05 PM

I would define a poser to be a person that is trying to be someone he's not.

Like pop kid that loves pop still listening to metal more because it's cool. That would be poser as for the fans.

For artists, it would have to be like if you are tryin to play metal music, but can't play it at all, and yet you claim you are a good metal band. Although this happens more with the punk than metal.

I'd also define marylin manson as a poseur.

Shattered_Future 06-22-2005 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]I'd also define marylin manson as a poseur.[/QUOTE]

How so? Hes got his own schtick that he uses for his music...its not supposed to be taken seriously. People blew it WAY too out of proportion, and that is why so many people hate him nowadays.

Hallowed Be Thy Name 06-22-2005 10:23 PM

To me a person cannot be labeled a poser unless you talk to them. If I saw a kid walking down the street wearing a Cradle of Filth shirt is he a poser, no. He could like alot of bands that you would appreciate but if i asked him why he likes them and he says "because they are the best black metal band ever" and only knows them for the Nymphetamine video then my friends he is indeed a poser. Also a poser is a person who goes from trend to trend. They will be "gangsta" one day and the next be a "metalhead" because MTV isnt playing rap as much and playing this blasphemous music they call "metal."

Phobophile 06-22-2005 10:36 PM

MTV doe NOT play metal.Even 90% of the stuff they play on Headbanger's Ball which is supposed to be the Metal show,is not metal. MTV avoids metal like the plague.

Marylin Manson...last thing he is is a poser if you consider that from day one he was his own person.He never tried to appeal to anyone.Though granted he did his best to piss everyone off but that was part of his character.

Trivium 06-22-2005 10:39 PM

well f[U]u[/U]ck mtv

I used to be a total poser, back when I was well 11ish I was all like LINKIN PARK HELL YEAH IM HARDCORE. A friend told me about metallica, and I was like oh yeah their the ****. (I had seen the I disapear video once).

Well now I dont think there are many other people as obsessed with metallica as I am and have been for a long time. I pretended to be into metallica to be cool with this kid who I thought was awsome.


But anyways, yeah I hate hot topic, though I did get my puppets shirt there, no rebel phrases like "keep staring I might do a trick".

I hate thoes shirts so **** much, anyone who expresses themselves through phrases on clothing or bumper stickers is just annoying as sh!t.

Steerpike 06-22-2005 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=Trivium]But anyways, yeah I hate hot topic, though I did get my puppets shirt there, no rebel phrases like "keep staring I might do a trick".

I hate thoes shirts so **** much, anyone who expresses themselves through phrases on clothing or bumper stickers is just annoying as sh!t.[/QUOTE]

Just so you know, I happen to own a couple such shirts for laughs. My favorite has a Mark Twain quote on it.

I'm not "expressing myself" as you seem to define it. I just like that quote.

Cain 06-22-2005 10:48 PM

[QUOTE=Da_Machine]MTV doe NOT play metal.Even 90% of the stuff they play on Headbanger's Ball which is supposed to be the Metal show,is not metal. MTV avoids metal like the plague. [/QUOTE]

I actually turned that on a few weeks ago and every two bands there was a punk band in black outfits. Very stupid.

Trivium 06-22-2005 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Just so you know, I happen to own a couple such shirts for laughs. My favorite has a Mark Twain quote on it.

I'm not "expressing myself" as you seem to define it. I just like that quote.[/QUOTE]

if its a quote by mark twain or something thats cool

but ive seen like

"keep staring I might do a trick"
"take a picture it lasts longer"

which I associate with really werid looking people, because youd have to really be staring at them to have the shirt make sense.

Pink mohawks for example.

Steerpike 06-22-2005 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]I actually turned that on a few weeks ago and every two bands there was a punk band in black outfits. Very stupid.[/QUOTE]

That makes my blood boil.

Scoot 06-22-2005 10:55 PM

Punk. What a weird word. So many people hate it. And so do I.

Cain 06-22-2005 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]That makes my blood boil.[/QUOTE]

Mine too. I checked to make sure I was watching Headbanger's Ball about five times in a row, because literally every video that came on was a bad punk band. I'm like, "JESUS, MTV blows."

Steerpike 06-22-2005 11:01 PM

The thing is, I actually like some punk. Dead Kennedys, The Clash, The Ramones, Bad Religion, The Misfits, The Freaks Union... It's sad how bastardized the genre has become.

PepsiMetal 06-22-2005 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]How so? Hes got his own schtick that he uses for his music...its not supposed to be taken seriously. People blew it WAY too out of proportion, and that is why so many people hate him nowadays.[/QUOTE]

I dont hate him, i just think dressing like a woman and stuff is unnecassary and is for attention-seeking.

James Van Halen 06-22-2005 11:13 PM

[QUOTE]I like all the bands listed above. I love that Arch Enemy cd. Still sometimes when there's someone listening to Good Charlotte and thinking they're punk makes me want to punch their throat[/QUOTE]
My point wasn't so much that listening to those bands make you a poser, but more that if you think you're some kinda hardcore satan worshipping metalhead for going to a Static X concert, you're a poser.

[QUOTE]
I have a question, you aren't defined as a poser if you where band T-shirts are you? I don't where them every day or anything I just got a slayer tour shirt at a concert but from what I heard like 14 year old kids just like live at hot topic buying band shirts and fish net stalkings but just because you where a band shirt once and a while doesn't define you as a poser does it?[/QUOTE]
Don't worry about it. Even getting shirts from Hot Topic isn't posing, as much as I despise the store. Posing would be more like if you have a band T shirt of a band that you don't like or haven't heard. Sometimes we almost turn ourselves into posers just worrying about wether we are posers or not.

[QUOTE]I consider a poser to wear make up and girl pants. Looking like a female is not metal. Now I bet some smart *** will say "BUT DOWN025 IN THE 80S BANDS DID THE SAME THING NUHAHUHU" well atleast those bands kicked ***.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. As are other people in this thread, the user above me as an example. Marilyn Manson didn't set out to get attention, that's what happened. Why? He got popular. That's what happens. The more Dimmu or Cradle Of Filth get popular, the more shootings and satanic rituals are going to be blamed on them as well. I also fail to see how Marilyn Manson wears "girl clothes", or how you can still pretend to be intelligent while giving fabric a gender specification. And this, my friend is coming from somebody who can't stand Marilyn Manson.

[QUOTE]To me a person cannot be labeled a poser unless you talk to them. If I saw a kid walking down the street wearing a Cradle of Filth shirt is he a poser, no. He could like alot of bands that you would appreciate but if i asked him why he likes them and he says "because they are the best black metal band ever" and only knows them for the Nymphetamine video then my friends he is indeed a poser. Also a poser is a person who goes from trend to trend. They will be "gangsta" one day and the next be a "metalhead" because MTV isnt playing rap as much and playing this blasphemous music they call "metal."[/QUOTE]
Well said.

Phobophile 06-22-2005 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=James Van Halen]My point wasn't so much that listening to those bands make you a poser, but more that if you think you're some kinda hardcore satan worshipping metalhead for going to a Static X concert, you're a poser.[/QUOTE]
Does this apply if say I do enjoy going to a Static-X concert but also enjoy going to say I dunno a Necrophagist concert?Just making sure if liking both is still okay and not worthy of poser flamification.

slit_21 06-22-2005 11:30 PM

ok I dont see why everybody is dissing on slipknot, they are probably my favorite band next to SoaD. Now I understand about people wearing slipknot shirts so look "goth", thats just plain retarded. but I have a couple of slipknot shirts that I wear once in a whil e but that shouldnt make me a poser just because I wear there shirts, Hell I have a Pink floyd shirt too that I wear and yes I listen to them. so basically what I'm saying( to all those people who didnt want to read the begginging of my post) is that yes you are a poser if you wear a shirt of a band and you dont even like them but if they are your fav. band it is alright. o yah i almost forgot, Yes punk does suck harcore


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