^^ Keith Moon makes it the most apparent that they're playing to a pre recorded track. He's just lightly, daintily tapping the cymbals. He fixes his hair at one point during the song. He misses fills, doesn't even care. It's awesome.

The best part is when Pete ambles back onstage after the big explosion, patting down his hair which was a little singed. I always laugh when he takes the guitar from Tommy Smothers, and just heaves it to the ground. He looks so tired, and non caring.

"Hey Dick, can I borrow your bass for a minute?"

Classic stuff...

good drummer, i think there guitar player sucks (mainly causeof how he acts), good vocalist, and the bass player doesnt do anything special (from what i have heard) so all in all just an average rock band (i do enjoy to listen to them once and a while)

[QUOTE=faith+1]good drummer, i think there guitar player sucks (mainly causeof how he acts), good vocalist, and the bass player doesnt do anything special (from what i have heard) so all in all just an average rock band (i do enjoy to listen to them once and a while)[/QUOTE]

You suck far more than Townshend ever could. Entwhistle does nothing special? That's an abomination of a statement. Average rock band? How about you have an under average taste in music. And how exactly does Townshend "act" and why does it disturb you? Oh, and The Who were never about perfect musicianship. So they didn't and don't need to do anything "special" to achieve greatness. They're just great. Period. That's all you need to know and understand.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]You suck far more than Townshend ever could. Entwhistle does nothing special? That's an abomination of a statement. Average rock band? How about you have an under average taste in music. And how exactly does Townshend "act" and why does it disturb you? Oh, and The Who were never about perfect musicianship. So they didn't and don't need to do anything "special" to achieve greatness. They're just great. Period. That's all you need to know and understand.[/QUOTE]

I was wondering when I'd see you back in R&M again.

The My Generation on Live at Leeds is absolutely amazing, as is the Sparks. Well since I've gone that far, the whole album (especially the deluxe CD edition) is fantastic.

It's a good thing that Faith+1 hasn't heard much of the Who's music. Otherwise he'd know how wrong he is. Christ, John Entwistle doesn't do anything special? What?

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]You suck far more than Townshend ever could. Entwhistle does nothing special? That's an abomination of a statement. Average rock band? How about you have an under average taste in music. And how exactly does Townshend "act" and why does it disturb you? Oh, and The Who were never about perfect musicianship. So they didn't and don't need to do anything "special" to achieve greatness. They're just great. Period. That's all you need to know and understand.[/QUOTE]
pull your hand out of your [size=2]as[/size]shole. :thumb:

now shut the [size=2]fu[/size]ck up and listen, there are better bands.

I stated my opinion, you got all bitchy on me, stop acting like a [size=2]fu[/size]cking 3 year old and grow some balls.

my avatar is bigger then yours.....so automatically, i win
/sarcasm on last sentance.

Heres how the band really goes (to put it simply): Great drummer, great guitarist (for things other than just playing guitar solos), great singer, great bassist.

[QUOTE=faith+1]pull your hand out of your [size=2]as[/size]shole. :thumb:

now shut the [size=2]fu[/size]ck up and listen, there are better bands.

I stated my opinion, you got all bitchy on me, stop acting like a [size=2]fu[/size]cking 3 year old and grow some balls.[/QUOTE]

And he stated his opinion back, he wasn't insulting you (except by saying you suck more than Townshend, which is hardly an insult, his point is that Townshend is great, not that you suck). Now you're the one acting all bitchy to him. Sounds like a hypocrite to me.

Baba O Riley ( Who Next) on Viynl i
s the way to go

[QUOTE=Lunch]Heres how the band really goes (to put it simply): Great drummer, great guitarist (for things other than just playing guitar solos), great singer, great bassist. [/QUOTE]

/looks at avatar
no [size=2]sh[/size]it you think that, you are a fanboy

[QUOTE=CantBuyAThrill]It's a good thing that Faith+1 hasn't heard much of the Who's music. Otherwise he'd know how wrong he is. Christ, John Entwistle doesn't do anything special? What?[/QUOTE]
I have 4 disc box set of The Who, to say i havent listened to them much would show your ignorant views, i just said there are better bands, yet again, stating my opinion.

[QUOTE=faith+1]/looks at avatar
no [size=2]sh[/size]it you think that, you are a fanboy[/QUOTE]

How come your allowed to express what you think but as soon as I say that they have a group of great personell in makes me a fanboy? I'm not incapable of perceiving other bands as better than The Who. And I don't automatically accept everything The Who did as amazing. You don't seem to know what a fanboy really is.

Having an avatar of a band doesn't make you a fanboy. You have an ugly monster in your avatar, does that make you an ugly monster lover?

[QUOTE=faith+1]/looks at avatar
no [size=2]sh[/size]it you think that, you are a fanboy


I have 4 disc box set of The Who, to say i havent listened to them much would show your ignorant views, i just said there are better bands, yet again, stating my opinion.[/QUOTE]

"fanboy" :rolleyes:

"4 disc box set" :thumb:

A gift, just for you.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347012&page=1[/url]

half of those are singles.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]"fanboy" :lol:

"4 disc box set" :thumb:

A gift, just for you.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347012&page=1[/url][/QUOTE]

I wouldn't bother, but thanks for whoring my thread out.

We've had this argument before, if you don't like The Who that's fine.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I wouldn't bother, but thanks for whoring my thread out.

We've had this argument before, if you don't like The Who that's fine.[/QUOTE]
....... I do like them, what i said at first wasn't negative towords the band, but someone took things way out of proportion.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I was wondering when I'd see you back in R&M again.

The My Generation on Live at Leeds is absolutely amazing, as is the Sparks. Well since I've gone that far, the whole album (especially the deluxe CD edition) is fantastic.[/QUOTE]

I've been around. Kind of spreading myself thin throughout a few forums lately, though. And it's funny you should mention the deluxe edition Leeds set, because I just picked that up. I have to get used to it, as I'm accustomed to the short, tight album that I've always known Live at Leeds to be. But I'm slowly working my way through it. It really is my pleasure to do so. I'm loving it.

Then is appears we shouldn't have any problems here.

I would definitely disagree with you about Entwistle "not doing anything special" and even if you don't like Townshend I think it would be a stretch to say he sucked (either at guitar or writing).

Edit: To Faith+1

Edit: This in response to Faith+1

My mistake in thinking that you hadn't heard much of the Who. However, I really find it difficult to understand why you thought that Pete Townshend was a bad guitarist. I can understand why you can think that he was all that special with his instrument, (I guess,) but it's real hard to deny that he did have a very special gift for song writing. And to say that Entwistle didn't do anything special when you've apparently heard as much of their stuff really makes me wonder... because listening to stuff like "The Real Me" and "5:15" or even the bass solos on "My Generation" never fails to impress me. I realize there are other bands out there, but I still believe that the Who are a very competant, classic band, which I believe at least deserves a little respect.

Edit.. again: Sorry, this was typed while Lunch was trying to make amends, or whatever he was saying. I'll leave it anyway.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]I've been around. Kind of spreading myself thin throughout a few forums lately, though. And it's funny you should mention the deluxe edition Leeds set, because I just picked that up. I have to get used to it, as I'm accustomed to the short, tight album that I've always known Live at Leeds to be. But I'm slowly working my way through it. It really is my pleasure to do so. I'm loving it.[/QUOTE]

From what I've heard the sound quality is better, and Tommy has always been my favorite Who album so obviously the live disc of that was a must-have for me. And it lived up to expectations.

[QUOTE=faith+1]....... I do like them, what i said at first wasn't negative towords the band, but someone took things way out of proportion.[/QUOTE]

It's cool. Really. No offense. I don't use the boards to confront or argue. And your opinion is welcome. But with that sort of opinion you should expect a somewhat vigorous retort from someone. I just happened to be that someone. As I said, no offense

[QUOTE]It's cool. Really. No offense. I don't use the boards to confront or argue. And your opinion is welcome. But with that sort of opinion you should expect a somewhat vigorous retort from someone. I just happened to be that someone. As I said, no offense[/QUOTE]

Word to that.

they have a great guitar player, when i said he sucked, i meant towords how i have seen him act. i should have put some of my statments in a different way, but i suck at writing.

i do like the band, but i am not holding them like gods. i do appreciate there music, they have inspired a lot of people to pick up an instrument (Me) but i was expressing my views.

Again let me restate, I suck at expressing my views with writing, if i have confused anyone, sorry bout that.

What about how Townshend acted made you not like him?

(I'm not trying to change your views or anything, just curious and starting conversation.)

Oy vei.

Entwistle doing nothing?

He's perhaps the greatest bassist who ever lived (made 3rd place in this forum, which is quite a feat saying how R&M is mostly metalheads), his licks are absolutly phenominal and are rarely, if ever, duplicated or matched. And I loved his stage presense (just stood there looking blank, while playing the most complex stuff in the band).

Keith Moon is ****ing amazing. Geez Faith, being a drummer I'm surprised you don't appreciate him more. He was more style than raw technical aptitude, which is what I look for in a drummer. **** technical aptitude, he roared on the drums and looked like he was having fun.

Roger Daltry could belt better then anybody else with the exception of Freddie Mercury. Plus he swung his mic around, which automatically makes him cooler.

Now Pete is probably technically-wise the worst of the group. He does a pretty decent guitar though, and his stage precense and energy is absolutly phenomnal (just watch TKAA and both Baba and Won't Get Fooled Again, he goes ape **** and STILL plays) and his songwriting is matched by only Ian ANderson and John and Paul.

They kick ***. You'll opinion will change if you see their live show. Trust me, I liked them pretty well listening to the albums, but after watching TKAA, I orgasm over them. Its a whole different trip.

Pete does just fine. He's not all that great a guitarist, but it gets the job done. And he writes the lyrics so that's a huge plus considering how good The Who's lyrics are.

Watching them live during their finer moments still gives me the chills. Especially Townshend's windmills. I love the footage of Young Man Blues on the Isle of Wight Dvd, theres great shots of Townshend doing all kinds of cool stuff with his guitar (windmill, waving it in the air, jumping around). You can always feel the energy coming out of their live footage or live recordings.

entwistle was the greatest rock basisst there ever was. really. its that simple. the real me was improvised in studio. if thats not talent then i dont know what is.

[QUOTE=Lunch]What about how Townshend acted made you not like him?

(I'm not trying to change your views or anything, just curious and starting conversation.)[/QUOTE]
well actually, its the same reason for a lot of bands i dont like, they broke instruments, to me that shows an anger issue or trying to be cool. but i do understand how the times were "back then", But it always seemed pete took it to far. on the live songs in the box-set, he just acts like an ******* when talking to the fans. just not somebody i would want to hang around with.

I love the Real Me on the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set (it's a version recorded in 1979, yes with Kenney Jones). Well rather, I love the end. Entwistle's part through the majority of the song much less interesting than the Quadrophenia version, but at the end he has an amazing bass solo into the fadeout. It's one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I love the Real Me on the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set (it's a version recorded in 1979, yes with Kenney Jones). Well rather, I love the end. Entwistle's part through the majority of the song much less interesting than the Quadrophenia version, but at the end he has an amazing bass solo into the fadeout. It's one of the greatest things I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]
yeah, you posted it in cr. hes so great. if anyone was the hendrix of bass, it was him.

[QUOTE=faith+1]well actually, its the same reason for a lot of bands i dont like, they broke instruments, to me that shows an anger issue or trying to be cool. but i do understand how the times were "back then", But it always seemed pete took it to far. on the live songs in the box-set, he just acts like an ******* when talking to the fans. just not somebody i would want to hang around with.[/QUOTE]

The Who were really the first rock group to destroy their instruments, to me I love that part of their show in the mid-late 60's. But obviously, to each his own.

It's funny you should mention the way he talks to the audience. JohnxDoe brought this up in the last Who thread I think, about how a reviewer of the Live at Boston Dvd commented on the negative way Townshend talked to the audience. To understand The Who, you have to understand how Pete interacts with the audience. He didn't hate them, it was actually quite the opposite. The fans understood that, the outsider usually doesn't.
[QUOTE=PinkFreud]yeah, you posted it in cr. hes so great. if anyone was the hendrix of bass, it was him.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know anyone downloaded it.

I really enjoy "La La Lies"


Very catchy tune, but yes, the who are a great band

[QUOTE=Lunch]I didn't know anyone downloaded it.[/QUOTE]
i did. anything related to entwistle interests me. i absolutely abhor jones' drumming on it though.

[QUOTE=faith+1]well actually, its the same reason for a lot of bands i dont like, they broke instruments, to me that shows an anger issue or trying to be cool. but i do understand how the times were "back then", But it always seemed pete took it to far. on the live songs in the box-set, he just acts like an ******* when talking to the fans. just not somebody i would want to hang around with.[/QUOTE]

Well much of The Who's music was angry and violent. If that's not your cup of tea, then you most likely won't like them as much as others. Raw aggression and identity issues were all thrown on the table in Townshends writing, and The Who expressed this best from the stage. Hence the smashing of the instruments. Which was completely appropriate in The Who's case. No other band could or can do what The Who once did onstage. And those who have tried have come off as foolish posers. To understand The Who and thier motives you have to do a bit of research and a lot of listening. And a good deal of reading, too. And even if after that it doesn't click for you, you should definitely understand where they were coming from. Especially Townshend.

Oh, and Townshend has never been an as[COLOR=WHITE]shole[/COLOR] to the fans. That's just Pete being Pete. The fans know what that means. It's all good. We wouldn't have it any other way.

Alright, just merged the new The Who thread with this one.

[QUOTE=3074326]Alright, just merged the new The Who thread with this one.[/QUOTE]
I love you, in the way a forum user loves a good moderator. :thumb:

Yea, I really wouldn't have Pete any other way. I've always been a big fan of them smashing their instruments.

The Who Board is ALIVE! A monster is reborn!

LONG LIVE ROCK! :smash:

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]The Who Board is ALIVE! A monster is reborn!

LONG LIVE ROCK! :smash:[/QUOTE]

Don't let this one die out on us. I know you tried your best to keep the old one alive.

[QUOTE=Lunch]Don't let this one die out on us. I know you tried your best to keep the old one alive.[/QUOTE]

I really did. And this is spurring me on. But with thier plans on hold for new stuff for the time being, it's kind of difficult. It got a bit of a boost with Live 8, but then went flat again. I suppose I can dig up some news and post more excerpts from biographies of the band. Another of which I just came across. I'll give it a daily shot and see what happens. This evenings activity has been very encouraging. And it's great that the threads have been merged. Lot's of new energy in the thread now. That's great.

Yea, I like it too.

So uh, The Who Sell Out is a great record.