[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Reminds me of a harsher King Diamond...

Also, does anybody think the guitar work throughout their songs is better than most people crack it up to be? CoFs guitarists are VERY good...they play the most harmonized riffs I've ever heard, and they do it superbly well.[/QUOTE]
I fully agree - the guitaristry is excellent

filthy little secret solo++

Vempire is my favorite.

Yes they sold out, if by that you mean became the Traveling Anne Rice Tribute Circus Side Show.

Seriously, Dani Filth is the Fred Durst of metal.

They are an act, and Dani has been so gloriously gay and self obsessed since Midian that is is hardly believable.

Granted, I still like a lot of their music, but seriously.

If you like their stuff, I honestly recommend Emperor over them. HEavier, better songwriting, and less campy.

[QUOTE=Weezle]I'm an aspiring guitarist (meaning I don't know too much about it yet and my playing isn't too well), and I noticed that strictly because I listen to a lot of music. Compared to all the other artists in the Death/Black metal genre I listen to, Cradle have by far some of the greatest guitar players.[/QUOTE]

See Ihsahn of the above Emperor.

[QUOTE=luftvier]If you like their stuff, I honestly recommend Emperor over them. HEavier, better songwriting, and less campy.[/QUOTE]
I listen to emperor alot

they are totally different bands :confused:
the music style bar the principle is vastly different to emperor's

Graveworm sounds more like them if you ask me.

Graveworm is pretty much my favorite band right now. They make the most epic/beautiful music. I love them.


NP-Graveworm-Abandoned By Heaven

[QUOTE=luftvier]See Ihsahn of the above Emperor.[/QUOTE]
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Seriously, listen to any song off In The Nightside Eclipse, and tell me the guitars suck. Listen to the openig riff in Into The infinity Of Thought. My favorite Emperor song, and one of my favorite riffs of all time.

[QUOTE=luftvier]
Yes they sold out, if by that you mean became the Traveling Anne Rice Tribute Circus Side Show.

Seriously, Dani Filth is the Fred Durst of metal.[/QUOTE]

I really don't get what it is that they've done that people are saying they've sold out. I mean sure they have the circus stuff at some shows (I say some because of the size of the venue), but how does that mean they sold out? Yes, they have gotten popular over the years, but how many bands haven't gotten popular as the years go on. I think they'll sell out when you see Cradle of Filth collectible action figures or some other ridiculous merchandise like KISS has done, and they follow the music trend and make an emo album or something.

If you listen to their first album, and then listen to D*mnation And A Day or Nymphetamine, you can really hear the difference.

Simply because they made their music different, people say that have sold out. Shows how ignorant some people are.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]If you listen to their first album, and then listen to D*mnation And A Day or Nymphetamine, you can really hear the difference.

Simply because they made their music different, people say that have sold out. Shows how ignorant some people are.[/QUOTE]
again I fully agree- this is the point I make countless times, but do people listen?

People just say they sold out because they have more fans than most other bands in their genre. So what? That just means that they are better because more people like them. :thumb:

Just kidding, but I like them anyways.

NP: Cradle of Filth - Lord Abortion

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]
NP: Cradle of Filth - Lord Abortion[/QUOTE]
bows.. thanks for that

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]bows.. thanks for that[/QUOTE]
That song is my 2nd favorite CoF song, and it's the best off of Midian by far. I think that the best song by them is The Forest Whispers My Name, but I like Dani's new vocals more than his older ones.

I just don't think CoF are that good. They have good songs but I honestly don't feel they have a single album that is solid the whole was through.

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]That song is my 2nd favorite CoF song, and it's the best off of Midian by far. I think that the best song by them is The Forest Whispers My Name, but I like Dani's new vocals more than his older ones.[/QUOTE]
yeah... the forest whispers is a great song...
I love cruelty brought thee orchids alot at the moment...

i think its all great dani has some talent in changing his voice, and looking past the shrieking the lyrics tell great stories if you think about them. not to mention adrian is kick *** on the drums, to bad martin left tho great keys on nymphetamine........ but my favorite songs are swansong for a raven, and her ghost in the fog, and saffron's curse. but realyl i cant go wrong with a cradle of filth song i listen to them all but i dont care as much for the remixes on lovecraft and witchhearts

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]I just don't think CoF are that good. They have good songs but I honestly don't feel they have a single album that is solid the whole was through.[/QUOTE]
I thought that [I]The Principle of Evil Made Flesh[/I] and [I]Midian[/I] were solid albums. The rest follow with what you said.

Ehhh, I have Midian and find weak points. I'll give it another listen later. I don't have THe Principle of Evil Made Flesh so I'll take your word for it.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]If you listen to their first album, and then listen to D*mnation And A Day or Nymphetamine, you can really hear the difference.

Simply because they made their music different, people say that have sold out. Shows how ignorant some people are.[/QUOTE]

No, I say they sold out because of how GAY their image has become. Have you SEEN the videos for "Born in a Burial Gown" or "Nymphetamine"? LAUGHABLE! Dani is GAY GAY GAY with his faggothy vampire absurdity. He is an imp with a bloated ego and silly vampire fangs that angsty Hot Topic goth mallcorists masturbate to while writing terrible poetry in their candle-lit rooms!

I still enjoy his music, but his image is ridiculous. Cut down on the photoshop and Anne Rice junk.

Dimmu Borgir is becoming almost as laughable nowadays. Satyricon fast approaches.

[QUOTE=magicaltrollII]Seriously, listen to any song off In The Nightside Eclipse, and tell me the guitars suck. Listen to the openig riff in Into The infinity Of Thought. My favorite Emperor song, and one of my favorite riffs of all time.[/QUOTE]

Ihsahn was my example of a guitarist in metal who kicks Gaydle of Filth- all whilst singing too!

Um, Other better metal guitarists can be found in almost any credible band. Opeth, CoB, newer Mayhem (GDoW, WLA and Chimera), Marduk, Ulver, the list goes on.

[QUOTE=luftvier]Ihsahn was my example of a guitarist in metal who kicks Gaydle of Filth- all whilst singing too!

Um, Other better metal guitarists can be found in almost any credible band. Opeth, CoB, newer Mayhem (GDoW, WLA and Chimera), Marduk, Ulver, the list goes on.[/QUOTE]
I like CoF alot, there are just better guitarists than the ones in CoF.

to tell the truth, CoF isn't as bad as some say (not to me anyway, and yes, i am into bands like Emperor, Gorgoroth, Dark Throne, etc so i do have experience with real BM bands) it mean sure, the music is sub-par, but it's somewhat soothing, they're a band i'd buy an album from, but i'd probably pass em up, every time, for a better band

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I like CoF alot, there are just better guitarists than the ones in CoF.[/QUOTE]
yeah, if he doesen't like cradle, piss off out of the thread, if you can't express your dislike for cradle in a mature way then you are just a waste of space...

I personally love cradle's guitar playing, especially on midian and the new album seems really tight too guitar wise, however I admit there are better guitarists than those in the band, but they are great for what they do, they don't need to be obscurely technical for the music they play...

i like em but only have nymphetamine and ****ation and a day albums.
which older albums are good?

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]yeah, if he doesen't like cradle, piss off out of the thread, if you can't express your dislike for cradle in a mature way then you are just a waste of space...

I personally love cradle's guitar playing, especially on midian and the new album seems really tight too guitar wise, however I admit there are better guitarists than those in the band, but they are great for what they do, they don't need to be obscurely technical for the music they play...[/QUOTE]


They only way I can possibly express my dislike for Cradle's image is in that way.

Again, I don't dislike the band. I find Dani laughable however.

[QUOTE=_Suddevn_]i like em but only have nymphetamine and ****ation and a day albums.
which older albums are good?[/QUOTE]

Vempire is my personal favorite.

Principle of Evil Made Flesh is also quite good.

They are heavy and fast, less melodic than the newer stuff, but impressive in it's own rite. As a fan of grittier BM anyway, I appreciate these albums a lot.

[QUOTE=luftvier]Vempire is my personal favorite.

Principle of Evil Made Flesh is also quite good.

They are heavy and fast, less melodic than the newer stuff, but impressive in it's own rite. As a fan of grittier BM anyway, I appreciate these albums a lot.[/QUOTE]
right, sorry you should express dislike for Dani in a more mature way,

I really like him, it's not his fault that these faux-goths have chosen to copy him, it's odd because real music fans like Dani and the posers do too, that's why you see an odd mix at cradle gigs...

Agreed. I'll keep my Dani bashing to Ruthlessreviews forums.

[QUOTE=_Suddevn_]i like em but only have nymphetamine and ****ation and a day albums.
which older albums are good?[/QUOTE]
It's not very old, but Midian is a great album.

The music is great but i just don't like the singing further DAni si a great singer and From the cradle to the enslave is the only songs where I don't mind the singing caus the song is so **** great

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]It's not very old, but Midian is a great album.[/QUOTE]
Midian is the album that got me into them.

[QUOTE=Remedy]Midian is the album that got me into them.[/QUOTE]
The Principle of Evil Made Flesh got me into them, but Midian is the real reason that they listen to them now. What are your favorite songs off of Midian?

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]The Principle of Evil Made Flesh got me into them, but Midian is the real reason that they listen to them now. What are your favorite songs off of Midian?[/QUOTE]
Her ghost in the fog
Lord Abortion
Cthulu Dawn
Tortured Soul Asylum

[QUOTE=Remedy]Her ghost in the fog
Lord Abortion
Cthulu Dawn
Tortured Soul Asylum[/QUOTE]
Yeah, those are all some great songs. What is your favorite CoF song ever?

Mine (though I've only heard ****ation and a Day, Midian, and The Principal Of Evil Made Flesh) is Tortured Soul Asylum.

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Yeah, those are all some great songs. What is your favorite CoF song ever?[/QUOTE]
Mannequin

mine has my name in it

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Yeah, those are all some great songs. What is your favorite CoF song ever?[/QUOTE]

Thirteen Autumns And A Widow.

:amaze:

I was just like...wow...when i heard that song. Its freaking amazing.

Medusa and Hemlock and Filthy Little Secret. But then again, I haven't heard many songs. I think I only have 5.

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Medusa and Hemlock and Filthy Little Secret. But then again, I haven't heard many songs. I think I only have 5.[/QUOTE]
current msn name is...

MelanchOllie:::Forever sworn to keep it, My filthy little secret

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]current msn name is...

MelanchOllie:::Forever sworn to keep it, My filthy little secret[/QUOTE]

And you're giving it to me for uploads? (awesome song, isn't it? Was it you that uploaded it in the YSI thread?)

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Pardon? For uploads?[/QUOTE]

No doubt...hes the man to go to for CoF.