Im a big rap fan espcially groups with intelegent lyrics like A Tribe Called Quest, Immortal Technique, Common, Jedi Mind Tricks I also have a soft spot for NWA and Public Enemy and occasionally some Beastie Boys.

[QUOTE=i2 enegade][URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CYM7YK5MD9QQ3MRRXN6Y8DGIA]Excursions[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NP8Q3AUR7WA83G08IC291I5XQ]Scenario[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LUZFJDK0HKXI2NAIZU1PB90BX]What[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=33NQCO5FULSZF0AO2VW3G9YXJ4]Buggin' Out[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MUBT78WW658K2TM0OKH931P35]Steve Biko(Stir it up)[/URL]

Some more tracks by A Tribe Called Quest.The first four tracks are off The Low End Theory, which has to be one of the greatest records put out. The last one is my favorite song off of Midnight Marauders.[/QUOTE]

Spread the ATCQ I say. Excursions is one of my all time favourite rap songs.

[QUOTE=MattFromCanada]Rap is great. I first started listening to it back in 93' or so with the release of "gangstas paradise" by Coolio. I love alot of older rap music but, I find the "new" stuff of today to be waaaaaaay to over done/over played and are by far making WAAAAAAAAAY too much money. NwA, ghetto boys, eazy e(solo) are probably my favourite rap/rap groups of all time however Tupac and biggie are closely behind. Every commercial rap artist of today (50 cent, the game, g(ay)-unit) is just coping on the style of these artists and is completely unoriginal.

to sum it up: Old rap = good
New rap = no good[/QUOTE]
Whats up with all this new stuff sucks old stuff is better??? You people obviously don't look into this stuff very well. It's not that old is better and new sucks it's just that old stuff use to be popular and now you have to look for good music.

[QUOTE=Kosta]Just check out the Quasimoto or Mr Lif stuff I posted. It doesn't sound at all like 50 Cent and it's new... just indie.[/QUOTE]

Ok I'll check it out - thanks :thumb:

I think the one thing that annoys me most about rap is thelack of instruments.

If they put some instrumental stuff in the background then I might consider listeniong to it but until then, nope sorry

[QUOTE=President Dead]I think the one thing that annoys me most about rap is thelack of instruments.

If they put some instrumental stuff in the background then I might consider listeniong to it but until then, nope sorry[/QUOTE]
The Roots?
Black Eyed Peas?
Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
Talib Kweli?
Mos Def?
Wyclef Jean?
Lauryn Hill?

Seriously, open your ears. And, more importantly, drop your stupid prejudice against non-acoustic instruments.

[QUOTE=Txus]I will never like rap , so sorry......[/QUOTE]
I agree with you :thumb:

[QUOTE=Iai]The Roots?
Black Eyed Peas?
Public Enemy?
A Tribe Called Quest?
Talib Kweli?
Mos Def?
Wyclef Jean?
Lauryn Hill?

Seriously, open your ears. And, more importantly, drop your stupid prejudice against non-acoustic instruments.[/QUOTE]

Exactly right. Bass is a MAJOR part of rap, aswell as many other instruments.

Sorry for the useless information but may 29th is my birthday :cool:

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]Exactly right. Bass is a MAJOR part of rap, aswell as many other instruments.[/QUOTE]


No it's not. The basis of rap is basically DJ's cutting up older songs, mix them, put them over a drumcomputer generated drum pattern, and let rappers rap over it.

Maybe 2 or 3% of the hip-hop community uses real instruments.

Kosta, how familiar are you with Jedi Mind Tricks?

[QUOTE=Bartender]Kosta, how familiar are you with Jedi Mind Tricks?[/QUOTE]

You looking for an album reccomendation?

[QUOTE=Bartender]Kosta, how familiar are you with Jedi Mind Tricks?[/QUOTE]


Very. I like them. Only for the beats, though. I always thought Vinnie's lyrics were either psuedo-intellectual, or overused punchlines. Overal great group, though.

Stoupe's the reason I like them. His beats are amazing. Especially War Ensemble, which is still my favorite song of theirs.

[QUOTE=ATM]
You looking for an album reccomendation?[/QUOTE]

No, I'm just confused about the tracklisting on one of their albums (Legacy of Blood).

[QUOTE=Bartender]No, I'm just confused about the tracklisting on one of their albums (Legacy of Blood).[/QUOTE]


Don't have that album, though. So sorry, can't help.

[QUOTE=Kosta]real instruments.[/QUOTE]
That attitude REALLY irritates me.

[QUOTE=Kosta]Very. I like them. Only for the beats, though. I always thought Vinnie's lyrics were either psuedo-intellectual, or overused punchlines. Overal great group, though.

Stoupe's the reason I like them. His beats are amazing. Especially War Ensemble, which is still my favorite song of theirs.[/QUOTE]

He has his moments, but yeah, on the whole it's the music I like more than the lyrics, I think.


Any help (from anyone) appreciated with this tracklist, anyway.

[QUOTE=Iai]That attitude REALLY irritates me.[/QUOTE]


Bah, it's not my attitude. I just read it so much, I started saying it myself. But you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=Kosta]Very. I like them. Only for the beats, though. I always thought Vinnie's lyrics were either psuedo-intellectual, or overused punchlines. Overal great group, though.

Stoupe's the reason I like them. His beats are amazing. Especially War Ensemble, which is still my favorite song of theirs.[/QUOTE]

I fully agree, I espcially like Violent By Design, some great tunes on that album. I find the lyrics somewhat interesting although they seem to overuse the same sort of material.

[QUOTE=Kosta]Bah, it's not my attitude. I just read it so much, I started saying it myself. But you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]
I know. I assumed from your intelligence in your other posts that it was just a slip of the tongue.

[QUOTE=Bartender]He has his moments, but yeah, on the whole it's the music I like more than the lyrics, I think.


Any help (from anyone) appreciated with this tracklist, anyway.[/QUOTE]

I dont own the album but this is the tracklist off amazon.

1. Intro
2. Age of Sacred Terror
3. Scars of the Crucifix
4. Death Falls Silent (Interlude)
5. Saviorself
6. On the Eye of War [Julio Cesar Chavez Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
7. Darkest Throne (Interlude)
8. Worst
9. Verses of the Bleeding
10. Beyond the Gates of Pain
11. Farewell to the Flesh (Interlude)
12. And So It Burns
13. Spirit of Hate (Interlude)
14. Me Ne Shalto
15. On the Eve of War [Meldrick Taylor Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
16. Winds Devouring Men (Interlude)
17. Philosophy of Horror
18. Of the Spirit and the Sun (Interlude)
19. Before the Great Collapse

[QUOTE=RazorsInTheNight]I fully agree, I espcially like Violent By Design, some great tunes on that album. I find the lyrics somewhat interesting although they seem to overuse the same sort of material.[/QUOTE]

On [i]Legacy of Blood[/i] at least, he seems a little preoccupied with Islam. He's generally good, though, so I don't mind. I quite like the lyrics (except the frequent references to killing faggots).

[QUOTE=Razors]
I dont own the album but this is the tracklist off amazon.

1. Intro
2. Age of Sacred Terror
3. Scars of the Crucifix
4. Death Falls Silent (Interlude)
5. Saviorself
6. On the Eye of War [Julio Cesar Chavez Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
7. Darkest Throne (Interlude)
8. Worst
9. Verses of the Bleeding
10. Beyond the Gates of Pain
11. Farewell to the Flesh (Interlude)
12. And So It Burns
13. Spirit of Hate (Interlude)
14. Me Ne Shalto
15. On the Eve of War [Meldrick Taylor Mix] [Mix] - GZA/Genius
16. Winds Devouring Men (Interlude)
17. Philosophy of Horror
18. Of the Spirit and the Sun (Interlude)
19. Before the Great Collapse[/QUOTE]

That's the problem, though. That's the tracklist on Amazon, and on the back of the case, but there only appear to be sixteen tracks on the CD.

First person to make a Deicide joke about track #3 on that wins a....

....actually, don't.

Yeah yeah, that was my first thought too. It's good though, so I didn't bother.

This is my favorite group. Tha Alkaholiks.

Note: One song is with Xzibit, but, this was Xzibit 10 years ago. He didn't suck back then. Actually, he [b]was[/b] one of the best rappers of his time.

Tha Alkaholiks
-[URL=http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27A2VM3AAGD9T04L0MIJ3M16MS]All The Way Live (ft. Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest and King Tee)[/URL]
-[URL=http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26L578Y5EHTZY3HVUW55D9ONDU]Read My Lips[/URL]
-[URL=http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LHTTKHQHI6QD2THFUGYHQ7YAC]Hit And Run (ft. Xzibit)[/URL]

God, I love this group.

[QUOTE=Iai]I know. I assumed from your intelligence in your other posts that it was just a slip of the tongue.[/QUOTE]

Haha thanks.

[QUOTE=Bartender]and on the back of the case, but there only appear to be sixteen tracks on the CD.[/QUOTE]


Keep listening after the last track, maybe they're hidden tracks?

Oh and by the way. Why wasn't Delinquent Habits mentioned before in this topic? Those guys are awesome. Great west coast party rap.

[QUOTE=Kosta]
Keep listening after the last track, maybe they're hidden tracks?
[/QUOTE]

I don't think so :-/ There is a hidden track tacked onto the end of Before the Great Collapse, but that's all. The missing tracks seem to be Verses of the Bleeding and the two featuring GZA.

[QUOTE=Bartender]I don't think so :-/ There is a hidden track tacked onto the end of Before the Great Collapse, but that's all. The missing tracks seem to be Verses of the Bleeding and the two featuring GZA.[/QUOTE]


Christ, the irony. Both songs that feature the best rapper on that whole album are missing.

Don't rub it in :(

I'm just hoping to find out whether it's a big mistake and the tracks don't actually exist (listed by accident), or what.

[QUOTE=Bartender]Don't rub it in :(

I'm just hoping to find out whether it's a big mistake and the tracks don't actually exist (listed by accident), or what.[/QUOTE]

According to AllMusic, they should be on there.

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]I cannot even stand the sight of that guy.[/QUOTE]
i agree

[QUOTE=Kage]123.[/QUOTE]
It helps broaden peoples perspectives.


I think we should do a classical/romantic FG once.

i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.

[QUOTE=podbassist]i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.[/QUOTE]

Did you not even read the thread or something?

[QUOTE=Brewer14]Did you not even read the thread or something?[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming he just read the title of the thread and nothing else.

[QUOTE=podbassist]i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but you kike POD.

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]I think we should do a classical/romantic FG once.[/QUOTE]
I'd be well up for contributing to that.

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]I'm assuming he just read the title of the thread and nothing else.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Im guessing thats the case too.

and rap > POD :thumb:

NP - Natural born Killa - NWA.

I haven't seen Eric B & Rakim mentioned yet, though surely they must have been.

Paid In Full = utter classic. Rakim easily has one of the best flows I've ever heard - maybe the best.

[QUOTE=podbassist]i though this was a rock and metal forum, rap should be in another forum.[/QUOTE]

You should be in another forum!