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Bartender 03-07-2005 02:32 PM

To make the people who were unable to go even more desperate to see them, and thus selling out the following big-venue tour even more convincingly. Maybe.

Kage 03-07-2005 02:35 PM

:lol:

Da[COLOR=White]m[/COLOR]n them, I say.

insertnamehere 03-07-2005 03:41 PM

Doing a further North America tour in Autumn would make me happy if i wasnt in England...

BlindWriting 03-07-2005 04:52 PM

Holy f[color=white]u[/color]cking sh[color=white]i[/color]t!!!!
Tickets to the Hammerstein Ballroom show sold out in about two hours.
I'm really pissed, and really disappointed.... :upset:

misunderstood 03-07-2005 05:01 PM

ah, that sucks...that took a while to sell out though..our **** tickets sold out within minutes..starting with the **** pre-sales which sold out in 3mins!... anyway, sorry about that

Kage 03-11-2005 02:59 PM

Again, a shameless bump.

I [I]finally[/I] picked up the And All That Could Have Been DVD. I gotta say it's amazing. The life performances are great, and I love the live interpretations of some of the songs that have more of a heavy rock feel when performed live (Head Like A Hole, for one).

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Again, a shameless bump.

I [I]finally[/I] picked up the And All That Could Have Been DVD. I gotta say it's amazing. The life performances are great, and I love the live interpretations of some of the songs that have more of a heavy rock feel when performed live (Head Like A Hole, for one).[/QUOTE]
Man, when i first saw "Terrible Lie" on that, I was amazed. That is the best performance of any song I've ever seen.

Also, anyone that hasn't got that, go and get it right now... you won't regret it.
I really like the performance of "Starfuc[SIZE=2]kers[/SIZE] inc" on that. Its great.

*goes to watch the dvd*

Kage 03-11-2005 03:26 PM

Have you seen all the secret special features? There's a very interesting live performance/video of The Day The World Went Away. I loved the performances of La Mer and The Great Below, where they had the three lines behind the band with those images. The visuals on The Great Below were just amazing.

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Have you seen all the secret special features? There's a very interesting live performance/video of The Day The World Went Away. I loved the performances of La Mer and The Great Below, where they had the three lines behind the band with those images. The visuals on The Great Below were just amazing.[/QUOTE]
WHA?! where do you get to see that at? That would be awesome, i never heard of that.
where can you see it at? I was just watching a little bit of it, and i was tinking "man, i wish they didn't cut out "when the world went away"...

Kage 03-11-2005 04:17 PM

On the second disc, choose the song Head Like A Hole. When the time gets to about 11:20, press the number 7 on your DVD remote. It will then go to a menu with several bonus features.

There are a few other cool things that I have yet to find, such as alternate camera angles on some songs.

BlindWriting 03-11-2005 04:18 PM

The Frail/The Wretched live on AATCHB was great, I thought. One of my favorite live NIN clips.

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]On the second disc, choose the song Head Like A Hole. When the time gets to about 11:20, press the number 7 on your DVD remote. It will then go to a menu with several bonus features.

There are a few other cool things that I have yet to find, such as alternate camera angles on some songs.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the camera views you get your remote and theres these little icons that have like a camera looking thing on it at the beggining of the songs with them, and on your remote, when yuo see the icon on the screen, you press "change view" or something like that on the remote.
Thanks so much for that info :thumb:

repcak 03-11-2005 04:32 PM

And all that could have been was my first NIN cd i listened to! i love it.... terrible lie is amazing.
but i've never heard of that dvd feature.....head like a hole on disc 2 and wait till 11:20 and then press 7... hm....
/me is going for CD and DVD recorder

ah... ups... you mean the DVD... oh... **** ... i have only the audio cd.... hm... ****...

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]And all that could have been was my first NIN cd i listened to! i love it.... terrible lie is amazing.
but i've never heard of that dvd feature.....head like a hole on disc 2 and wait till 11:20 and then press 7... hm....
/me is going for CD and DVD recorder

ah... ups... you mean the DVD... oh... **** ... i have only the audio cd.... hm... ****...[/QUOTE]
I just watched some of the special features, and they are awesome.
Kage, where did you find out about them?

Oh yeah, and has anyone seen the VHS version of "Closure"? And does anyone know when the DVD is supposed to be out? I want to see that because I heard they play "Mr. Self Destruct" on that... and it would be awesome to see that live.

Kage 03-11-2005 04:43 PM

I read it on another message board somewhere. I really really like the video for The Day The World Went Away. That's one of my all time favorite songs, and the video is a great visual representation of it.

I'm gonna go try those alternate camera views.

Kage 03-11-2005 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]Oh yeah, and has anyone seen the VHS version of "Closure"? And does anyone know when the DVD is supposed to be out? I want to see that because I heard they play "Mr. Self Destruct" on that... and it would be awesome to see that live.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have the VHS of Closure. I have to say, it's not a great video. It's two tapes, one side is music videos, the other is a live documentary. The music videos are cool, especially the one for Perfect Drug, but the live shows are not so good. The quality is bad, the filming is sub-par, the sound quality is awful. I don't think they play Mr Self Destruct on it, but I could be wrong as I haven't watched it in awhile. It's nowhere [I]near[/I] the greatness of AATCHB in terms of visual or audio. While the performances are good, it's just not a well-made video, in my opinion.

It was supposed to already have come out on DVD, but some legal issues (I think the original record company it came out under is causing problems) set it back, and now I believe it's sort of sitting on the backburner because of the new CD and everything.

repcak 03-11-2005 04:49 PM

No i haven't seen the VHS/DVD version of Closure , but i've seen the trailer on nin.com :thumb:

repcak 03-11-2005 04:50 PM

Kage: which NIN dvd/vhs would you recommend? which are the best you've seen??

Kage 03-11-2005 04:58 PM

Definately get And All That Could Have Been, it's just amazing. The portrayal of those songs is great. I know you have the audio CD of it, but the DVD is necessary as well.

Other than that, if you want to see Closure, I would wait until the DVD comes out. Hopefully that will improve the audio and/or video quality of it. The performances are awesome (Bowie+Trent on hurt :thumb: ). Also, I've seen it for rental at my local video store, so I would check there for it, if you want to see the VHS.

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 05:02 PM

Man... I just watched "The Day The World Went Away" video, and I have to say, I haven't had that many "shivers" while listening to music like that ever since the first time I heard the last part of "Lateralus". That was amazing, it just makes me more bummed out that I can't go to see them live :(

Kage 03-11-2005 05:03 PM

For more great live material from NIN, I recommend trying to hunt down the recordings of the CRC Sessions. It was a really small NIN show (under 100 people in the audience) where they played mainly acoustic-oriented material, including stunning versions of Something I Can Never Have, The Fragile, Even Deeper, and The Day The World Went Away. Highest reccommendation on that. Of course, while it lacks the hard-rocking elements of AATCHB, it makes up for it with intimate beauty.

Kage 03-11-2005 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]Man... I just watched "The Day The World Went Away" video, and I have to say, I haven't had that many "shivers" while listening to music like that ever since the first time I heard the last part of "Lateralus". That was amazing, it just makes me more bummed out that I can't go to see them live :([/QUOTE]

I know, dude I love that video/song. This whole DVD has made me determined to get cheapt scalped tickets.

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I know, dude I love that video/song. This whole DVD has made me determined to get cheapt scalped tickets.[/QUOTE]
I can't go because of my grades... it sucks. Are you still planning on going to that CD release party? If so, you better tell us how it was :evil: haha.

And I really hope they increase the quality of "Closure" too, if its that bad...

Kage 03-11-2005 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]I can't go because of my grades... it sucks. Are you still planning on going to that CD release party? If so, you better tell us how it was :evil: haha.

And I really hope they increase the quality of "Closure" too, if its that bad...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm going to the CD release party. It'll be awesome, don't worry :p

As for Closure, it's not [I]that bad[/I]. I think I may have come off a little bit too strong on that, but it's just not great. If you get the opportunity, check it out, but don't be too worried if you can't find it or something. My advice is just to wait for the DVD and get it then.

vashts80 03-11-2005 06:39 PM

If you can, try and somehow get the Woodstock '94 performance. It was only an hour and 15 mins long on the PPV, but there was more after the PPV went to 'tallica. It was awesome, though. Dead Souls is pawnage.

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=vashts80]If you can, try and somehow get the Woodstock '94 performance. It was only an hour and 15 mins long on the PPV, but there was more after the PPV went to 'tallica. It was awesome, though. Dead Souls is pawnage.[/QUOTE]
Is there any way you can get it without PPV? because I'm broke, and i heard its good.

vashts80 03-11-2005 09:15 PM

I actuallly got the DVD image off BT, the lineage went like this IIRC

PPV -> VHS -> DVD

However, there site I got it from has long-since gone down, :\

I think they sell it on ebay though

Magicaltroll 03-11-2005 09:23 PM

Hey, if anyone has the CRC sessions, could you please send the songs to me? Because i tried to download them, but they were REALLY screwed up, so if you can, Please send them to me over aim or something :D
aim- malignant5050
:EDIT: dam[SIZE=2]n[/SIZE]it, I have a problem typing "you"... haha

Kage 03-12-2005 12:02 AM

Yeah, I can send them to you. AIM - Headshokk7, just give me an IM if I'm on or post here and I'll get on and send them over.

Ischma 03-12-2005 01:37 AM

you can d/l the woodstock 94 dvd from a strong bt site however its hard to register now. its about 3.9gb and im still d/l it on 56k. im also d/l the all that couldve been dvd rip with 56k.

i can wait for the with teeth album.

i havent checked the setlist yet but there is a leak of the song "getting smaller" which is availble to d/l on a bt site. however, that has an invite system and i think you need to be a power user which i am not.

i think i read before in this thread, that with teeth was going to be released on stereo and 5.1 surround. sorry if its a stupid question but im guessing that 5.1 surround sound is better?

Kage 03-12-2005 02:04 AM

[QUOTE=Ischma]you can d/l the woodstock 94 dvd from a strong bt site however its hard to register now. its about 3.9gb and im still d/l it on 56k. im also d/l the all that couldve been dvd rip with 56k.

i can wait for the with teeth album.

i havent checked the setlist yet but there is a leak of the song "getting smaller" which is availble to d/l on a bt site. however, that has an invite system and i think you need to be a power user which i am not.

i think i read before in this thread, that with teeth was going to be released on stereo and 5.1 surround. sorry if its a stupid question but im guessing that 5.1 surround sound is better?[/QUOTE]

Better in the sense that there's more, sonically, that can be brought out with having the additional speakers to use. If you haven't yet, get The Downward Spiral re-release in 5.1, and you'll see what I mean.

If you don't have a Surround Sound 5.1 system, though, sounds will be missing and it will obviously not be better. A good 2 or 2.1 system can be almost as good as a 5.1, but why not utilize more speakers if you can?

Magicaltroll 03-12-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]Better in the sense that there's more, sonically, that can be brought out with having the additional speakers to use. If you haven't yet, get The Downward Spiral re-release in 5.1, and you'll see what I mean.

If you don't have a Surround Sound 5.1 system, though, sounds will be missing and it will obviously not be better. A good 2 or 2.1 system can be almost as good as a 5.1, but why not utilize more speakers if you can?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I listen to And All That Could Have Been in 5.1, it's awesome, even though the speakers aren't spread out like they should be, it still sounds great.

If they come out at the same time (With Teeth 5.1 and regular) then I would probably buy the regular because it does sound pretty bad when you don't listen to it with surround sound when you buy the 5.1. And it sounds ok if you listen to the regular version through surround sound, so yeah.
Sorry if that made no sense.

Kage 03-12-2005 12:10 PM

I see what you're saying. I think if they come out with a 5.1 version, it will be a Dualdisc or a double-disc pacakge or something, so there'll still be a Stereo format of the CD.

Magicaltroll 03-12-2005 12:40 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I see what you're saying. I think if they come out with a 5.1 version, it will be a Dualdisc or a double-disc pacakge or something, so there'll still be a Stereo format of the CD.[/QUOTE]
That would be awesome. If they do do then i will definitely be buying the dualdisc.

Kage 03-12-2005 01:45 PM

Hey, did you want me to send you the CRC songs? I can do that now, if you want.

misunderstood 03-17-2005 05:36 PM

i just saw the studio footage that is up at nin.com...man, i can hardly wait for this album now and of course the **** concert in may...i'm expecting great things from this band..again.

Kage 03-17-2005 05:38 PM

I have yet to watch the new studio footage, as the computer I'm using doesn't have Quicktime on it and I'm too lazy to download it. I'll look forward to it later.

THTF is getting radio airplay now. I can't wait to hear it.

vashts80 03-17-2005 06:03 PM

I just rewatched AATCHB. It's teh pwnage.

Magicaltroll 03-17-2005 08:08 PM

I remember not liking that song form the leak, I'll go listen to it now and see if its better :thumb:

Kage 03-17-2005 08:22 PM

I just watched the studio footage. Right now I'm a little speechless. I'll give an opinion on it later.


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