[QUOTE=Smackers]54/32, 23/4, 2/32, 66/66 All of which are used in Faerie's Death Waltz which can be found [URL="http://memo.xight.org/images/web/2005-01-03-08-01.jpg"]here[/URL] and [URL="http://memo.xight.org/images/web/2005-01-03-08-02.jpg"]here.[/URL][/QUOTE]

:lol:

That Mahavishnu Orchestra song is pretty strange.

wow, why the hell would someone bump my thread from more than a year ago?

I've had 2.5/6 and 2.5/12

Anyone can write a riff in 7/8, 13/16, 15/16, 31/32...but if you phrase the notes within the beat in a certain way, it'll sound pretty straight forward.

Or phrasing the notes weird in a bar of 4/4, that's what I like to hear rather than actually being stupidly technical, it just get boring after a while if it's too much imo.

Mastodon has some odd ones. 11/8, 13/8 etc.

Man, that link don't look too friendly...

i sightread that piece perfectly my first time through :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=mrducran]Or phrasing the notes weird in a bar of 4/4, that's what I like to hear rather than actually being stupidly technical, it just get boring after a while if it's too much imo.[/QUOTE]

that is a very good point. props :]

DT's "The Dance Of Eternity" have really weird and lots of changing time signatures, such as 5/8, 14/16, 15/16, 11/4, it's takes forever to figure the whole structure out

yea it changes a lot, but it really isn't too hard to figure it out. if yo listen to the song enough times, then you can stop trying to count 1, 2, 3, 4...15 in your head and just play.

19/16 is a bitch to play in

i'd think of it as 5/4 then. with one less 16th note. i know that sounds obvious, but it really helps. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5twothree next bar please.
i've played my share of 19/16, 15/16, 17/16 bars and i know its easier said than done.

Messaien's Quartet for the End of Time. It has all the different instruments playing complex, completely different time signatures to the others, or something like that.

[QUOTE=Duncster]17/8 is a time signature....[/QUOTE]
I mentioned 34/16 and he posted 17/8, as if to correct me.

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]Necrophagist People! Good god![/QUOTE]
Yes, because 4/4 is just so off the wall, only Germans can comprehend it.



Also, that Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz is infinitely hilarious. I feel like buying a poster of it now.

[QUOTE=YouGottaBeCrazy]wow, why the hell would someone bump my thread from more than a year ago?[/QUOTE]
Some spammer bumped it, so we jut sort of got it going again

Apparently Radiohead's "Pyramid Song" is in no time signature at all. It's just like improvised time.

I heard from somewhere that New Milennium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah has one measure the whole song. I think it works out to 216/7 or something ridiculous like that.

There'd be no point to a time signature then.

...?

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Some spammer bumped it, so we jut sort of got it going again[/QUOTE]

ah okay, its all good

Ooo, it's in 4/4, but try and play In Death Is Death by Meshuggah. The intro is a 16 bar phrase and doesn't repeat, just fukking randomness. It does sound pretty ghey imo though, but it's kinda funny to listen to.

[QUOTE=BringHomeTheBacon]Apparently Radiohead's "Pyramid Song" is in no time signature at all. It's just like improvised time.[/QUOTE]

No, Pyramid song is in 4/4.. obviously. There's even drums on the tracks that emphasize this

[QUOTE=Killtacular]
Yes, because 4/4 is just so off the wall, only Germans can comprehend it.

[/QUOTE]
Go listen to Fermented Offal Discharge and get back to me.

Pain of Salvation's "People Passing By" has a section of the song with four bars alternating between 12/8, 15/8, 12/8, and 18/8. So basically if you want to a be a pretentious prog-head you could say the riff is in 57/8 time.

[QUOTE=Deth]Go listen to Fermented Offal Discharge and get back to me.[/QUOTE]
I did. 4/4. Good game.

The only Necrophagist song I can think of not in common time is Seven, which is in, surprisingly, 7/8.

no time signature is too weird anymore :rolleyes:

i dont see the need to have so many time sig. changes. sometimes, it disrupts the flow of the musical line

Because it makes you cool.

Why else would you do anything unusual?

For me, writing in wierd time signatures is just sort of a way to purely write music for myself. Like today, I wrote a riff in 7/4, but transcribed it in 4/4. 3 phrases of the 7 riff, and an added riff played in 4, while the drums are playing in 4 the entire time. I like it, but I doubt anyone else would think it was even coherent. :p

mm i guess so.
but i swear sometimes it's done just so that they can...say they did it.
im the biggest dream theater fanboy, but sometimes their use of polyrhtyhms over and over again really annoys me.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]For me, writing in wierd time signatures is just sort of a way to purely write music for myself. Like today, I wrote a riff in 7/4, but transcribed it in 4/4. 3 phrases of the 7 riff, and an added riff played in 4, while the drums are playing in 4 the entire time. I like it, but I doubt anyone else would think it was even coherent. :p[/QUOTE]
It's called syncopation, except your's is more extended.....


Ewww extended.
[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]mm i guess so.
but i swear sometimes it's done just so that they can...say they did it.
im the biggest dream theater fanboy, but sometimes their use of polyrhtyhms over and over again really annoys me.[/QUOTE]
DT doesn't use polyrhythms much...

Sometimes I change time sigs to "free up" the song.. Shake it a bit loose, make it feel less formularic

idk i think it's fine. just not in excess. then it starts to really sound disjointed.

what exactly are polyrhythms then moses?
maybe im under the wrong impression of what they are...

[QUOTE]It's called syncopation, except your's is more extended.....


Ewww extended.[/QUOTE]

I take pride in my extention, thank you very much. :p

So, for the sake of solidifying my understanding of 'syncopation,' would the main riff of Schism be syncopated into bars of 5 and 7 when really it's just a riff of 12 beats?

What is a polyrhthym?

Drums play in y/4, guitars play in x/4, where x is anything other than y.

John Cage's 4'33"

[QUOTE=Atman]John Cage's 4'33"[/QUOTE]
John Cage FTW
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[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Drums play in y/4, guitars play in x/4, where x is anything other than y.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, thank you. 'Learn somethin new everyday.

[QUOTE=gillygan]What is a polyrhthym?[/QUOTE]
Listen to tools new album :thumb:. Its loaded with polyrhythms. Especially on Rosetta Stoned! And Jambi.
If you listen to Eulogy during the drum break he is playing different limbs in different time signatures. That will give you an idea of what a polyrhythm is.

I was hoping that was coherent enough to understand, heh.

Well, the different limb thing is just known as something along the lines of "independant drumming" or some **** like that. It's apparently really hard to do. I can see why.

I've done it before on my belly. RH in 3/4 LH in 4/4.

:cool: