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Brew 11-04-2004 03:36 PM

I kinda listened to the first few mins of each track on SBS, and at a guess I'd say that ''Looking for Today'' has Bill's crazy anvil playing on it in those few mins.

rising_fury 11-04-2004 03:45 PM

i'm going to have to give sbs a good listenin to soon... but i don't think it's on looking for today, could be wrong

rising_fury 11-04-2004 03:46 PM

although it'd really help if i knew what the hell it actually sounded like

Brew 11-04-2004 03:47 PM

I've only got a vinyl version, so it should be interesting to try and pick out the anvil.

rising_fury 11-04-2004 03:49 PM

i wish i had an anvil and a metal bathtub, i'd experiment :p

Brew 11-04-2004 04:01 PM

I wish I was high.

Have you seen The Black Sabbath story Vol.1? The bit about Tony playing the Flute is great.

IbanezAxer 11-04-2004 07:55 PM

Black Sabbath is my favorite band!
i so wish i joined this forum thing earlier

Brew 11-05-2004 11:04 AM

Welcome aboard :wave:

Feel free to add anything to this thread :)

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]I wish I was high.

Have you seen The Black Sabbath story Vol.1? The bit about Tony playing the Flute is great.[/QUOTE]

that dvd is great, i like the story about ozzy beating that guy up in the crowd (i think its at the end)

whats the volume 2 dvd like? i was thinking about getting it but it doesnt have ozzy on so i didnt bother

Brew 11-05-2004 02:27 PM

The only times I've seen Vol.2 in the shops, is when I have no money.

But I'm going to get it, I know some stuff about the years of 1979 - 1992 but I'd like to get the DVD for the videos etc...

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 03:02 PM

im not sure if i want it because i dont like dio and i havnt heared the other singers, well ive heared some guy on the best of black sabbath (its one of the last 3 on disc 2)

Brew 11-05-2004 03:13 PM

I don't have that best of, but at a guess I'd say its either Tony Martin or Glen Hughes.

I like Dio, not only is he a short little dude, but he's got a great voice.

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 03:26 PM

i dont like dio, probably because he took over from ozzy but to me sabbath will aways be toni iommi, bill ward, geezer butler and ozzy osbourne

woo post 1000!!!

Brew 11-05-2004 03:36 PM

:chug:

Well done.

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 03:58 PM

thanks

a couple pages back you said that you downloaded some of their songs, what did you use?

Brew 11-05-2004 04:08 PM

Winmx.

I'm using it right now to get some Blind Guardian, the songs I downloaded were:

Born Again
Trashed
Zero the Hero
7th Star

They're all pretty good, with 7th Star being my fav. out of that list.

guitarmh2004 11-05-2004 04:14 PM

Sabbath & Zeppelin do have their similarities and although they came from the same area(Birmingham,England...'cept for Jones & Page) at the same time and Zeppelin definitely came first but the big difference is that Sabbath never ripped off anyone's music ever and Zepp pretty much stole from other musicians left and right.

[QUOTE=severed013]they do a little bit, but not too much[/QUOTE]

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 04:17 PM

**** i tried downloading winmx earlier and it didnt work, oh well

ive decided to stop hating all sabbath singers that arent god (ozzy), what albums would you recommend (not dio albums i still dont like him)

Brew 11-05-2004 04:19 PM

I've heard good thing about Headless Cross and 7th Star.

It'd be better to ask Frail about the non-Ozzy albums, he has them all.

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 04:21 PM

ok next time i see him i will try to remember to ask, but if the album costs more than £10 then i will get master of reality instead

Brew 11-05-2004 04:25 PM

Good plan.

Solitude is one of the best tracks on Master for vocals. Ozzy's voice is amazing on it.

The0zzfanCometh 11-05-2004 04:27 PM

Black Sabbath rocked when Ozzy was still with them. I think the dumbest thing any band has ever done was when they kicked him out. In my opinion, Ozzy is the best singer/musician there ever was, and still is. :thumb:

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 04:29 PM

ive never heared that before i should have got master of reality last time i was at the metro centre but instead i got re-load by metallica (what a waste of f[I][U][/U][/I]ucking money!!!)

i dont see why so many people think that ozzy's voice is s[I][U][/U][/I]hit, when there are far worse vocalists out there

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=The0zzfanCometh]Black Sabbath rocked when Ozzy was still with them. I think the dumbest thing any band has ever done was when they kicked him out. In my opinion, Ozzy is the best singer/musician there ever was, and still is. :thumb:[/QUOTE]


if toni hadnt decided to get rid of him there wouldnt be great songs like crazy train and no more tears, there would be no ozzfest, there would be no ozzy poster on my wall, instead there would be a sabbath one with toni in the midle (even though guitarists shouldnt be, *vol 4 tour*) and most of all they would probably be dead

Brew 11-05-2004 04:36 PM

Tony > Ozzy

Its good that Ozzy got kicked out, the band would have self-destructed otherwise, and Tony deserves centre stage over Ozzy, he was the dude in Sabbath and always has been.

The0zzfanCometh 11-05-2004 04:43 PM

[QUOTE]joe holmes is also the dude who you see playing guitar in the perry mason video[/QUOTE]

Where can you find any Ozzy or Black Sabbath videos? Thanks

The0zzfanCometh 11-05-2004 04:47 PM

[QUOTE]if toni hadnt decided to get rid of him there wouldnt be great songs like crazy train and no more tears, there would be no ozzfest, there would be no ozzy poster on my wall, instead there would be a sabbath one with toni in the midle (even though guitarists shouldnt be, *vol 4 tour*) and most of all they would probably be dead[/QUOTE]

Good point! I never thought of it that way.... I don't know how the world would have gotten along without Crazy Train! lol But I have to disagree with anyone who says Tony was the best Black Sabbath member. Sorry :D

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]Tony > Ozzy

Its good that Ozzy got kicked out, the band would have self-destructed otherwise, and Tony deserves centre stage over Ozzy, he was the dude in Sabbath and always has been.[/QUOTE]


dude i cant believe you just said that! there is no way tony owns ozzy, ozzy is god, sure tony is a great guitarist but so was randy rhoads (RIP) he never demanded to be in the centre, guitarists shouldnt take centre stage unless they are also the singer

Ozzy > tony :thumb:

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=The0zzfanCometh]Good point! I never thought of it that way.... I don't know how the world would have gotten along without Crazy Train! lol But I have to disagree with anyone who says Tony was the best Black Sabbath member. Sorry :D[/QUOTE]

yes get their in mate, tony isnt the best member of sabbath (well apart from when he was the only origional member)

The0zzfanCometh 11-05-2004 04:58 PM

[QUOTE]Ozzy > tony[/QUOTE]

YES! And of course who could ever forget the great Randy Rhoads?

Brew 11-05-2004 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=The0zzfanCometh]YES! And of course who could ever forget the great Randy Rhoads?[/QUOTE]

Its not hard, seeing as he was never in Black Sabbath.

Brew 11-05-2004 05:07 PM

Please stop mentioning Randy Rhoads in this Black Sabbath thread, he has nothing to do with the Sabs.

Ozzy may be a god, but he didn't keep Sabbath going for 30 years, Tony did.
Ozzy got screwed up on drugs and got himself booted from the band, leaving Tony to keep things going.

For the past 20 years, Ozzy has been nothing to Black Sabbath, they did fine without him and I'd like to see a re-union tour of the MkII line up with Dio, and maybe re-unions of the later line-ups.

And Tony deserves centre stage, he IS Black Sabbath, he formed the band, kept it going through tough times, never giving up what he loves best.

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 05:22 PM

ozzy has done fine for past 20 years without them too.

they did do a reunion with dio back in the eightees didnt they? they made one album and dio left again

it wasnt all tony that formed sabbath him and bill were in a band together before that, ozzy and geezer were in a band before sabbath, they just got together, and before it was sabbath (during the pulka tulk days) they had a rythm guitarist called jim phillips and a saxophonist called alan clarke, so they could also claim that the had a hand in making sabbath aswell.

then there is jim simpson who was their first manager, he introduced them to alot of the jazz influences in their music aswell as some of the blues (thats all i got on him)

rising_fury 11-05-2004 05:23 PM

tony did write every great sabbath riff, and let's face it, if it wasn't for the riffs, sabbath would've been nothing.

and yes, i have seen the black sabbath stories 1&2 (they're sitting right next to me) they're pretty cool, but it's been a long time since i've watched vol. 2... i'm gonna pop it in right now

Brew 11-05-2004 05:26 PM

They re-formed with Dio in between 1990 and 1992, to record Dehumanizer.

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 05:31 PM

i knew they reformed with him somewhere along the lines

Brew 11-05-2004 05:34 PM

He left because he didn't feel that Sabbath should open for Ozzy on the two shows in The Costa Mesa back in 1992, which is why Rob Halford filled in.

shadow_stalker 11-05-2004 05:48 PM

yeah i heared something about that but didnt know if it was true or not

The0zzfanCometh 11-05-2004 09:15 PM

[QUOTE]And Tony deserves centre stage, he IS Black Sabbath, he formed the band, kept it going through tough times, never giving up what he loves best.[/QUOTE]

I still don't think Tony should get all the credit. It took all of Black Sabbath to keep it going through tough times. And Ozzy did not give up what he loves best when he got booted out; he became even better (If that's possible. :) He is and always was awesome).

TerryThorne 11-05-2004 11:14 PM

Does anyone have the black box? Is it worth it to spend the money for it?


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