[QUOTE=Link]nope, you can whipe away the emo, but there are truly screamo bands I mentioned. Most of them are hardcore/metal bands, but they all have different styles in their music.[/QUOTE]

Spend less time in Hot Topic.

[QUOTE=shane italian]You lose[/QUOTE]

Have you god any idea what pop-rock is?

And psuedo-metal is not a genre, you just think that it is a kind of metal but you don't know how to define is.

A band like odd project, or atreyu is more Melodic Metalcore!

I know, it is useless to talk about genres like emo/screamo etc. especially with people who think they know everything

Everybody wants to put it in boxes. This band is this..., this band is this... blablabla. When I previously mentioned some bands, it was a way to show other people some bands, if they like genres related to the socalled genres they can listen to these bands.

No. Screamo was a genre before The Used and Thursday came around. Check out some of the bands listed under screamo. You will then find that none of the bands you listed have an ounce of screamo in them.

critisize me.

what do you think of. bright eyes and a static lullaby

^Dude, start from the first page of this thread and you'll have a pretty good idea of what the other guys are going to say.

[QUOTE=syntaxerror]critisize me.

what do you think of. bright eyes and a static lullaby[/QUOTE]

Bright Eyes= Indie (they suck)
A Static Lullaby= Emocore/Metalcore or Pop-Punk/Metal

*Note: Just because I used emocore, doesn't mean they have any emo in them. I've just yet to come across a better name for Pop-Punk with screaming, so I still use the misnomer emocore.

oh god,, haha.. talk about specific labelling. it's okay, i just wanted to see what other people thought ;)

I listened to Hot Cross, City Of Catrepillar and Amanda Woodward for the first time. I think they're very good. It's a shame that emo/screamo bands generally don't get much support and better production would be nice.. But I guess that's the premise of emo bands.

I'm deciding on buying Burn Piano Island, Burn but I'm wondering if I'm better off waiting for Crimes to come out. What do you think?

Buy [I]This Adultery Is Ripe[/I].

I think Tangy Zizzle said that he loved [I]Crimes[/I]. But my friend said she didn't like it at all. So I say, get the best Blood Brothers album, [I]This Adultery Is Ripe[/I].

I've been thinking of buying it too but it's so hard to find it in my area.. I find it kinda hard to get into, it's a bit artsier than BPIB but it's growing on me. I dl'ed Rescue and Doctor! Doctor!, I'm liking them right now.

I lot of people prefer the catchy tunes of BPIB, but [I]This Adultery Is Ripe[/I] is really their best work I think.

So what is your guys opinion on screamo's connection to emo? Is it emotional screaming, or is it just....screaming?

Screamo is like really chaotic grind, but unlike grind bands like The Locust and Daughters, the lyrics and music usually have more meaning, art and emotion in them. Or a sometimes easier definition that is used is grind with breakdowns, because there are usually breakdowns to contribute to that sense of beauty, etc.

[url]http://www.purevolume.com/circletakesthesquare[/url]
[url]http://www.purevolume.com/thegreatredneckhope[/url]

I didn't know The Great Redneck Hope's on purevol:eek: There's like dozens of great bands in Purevolume amid the stale pop punk facade.

why are most emo'ers such classification natzis. i can understand why you would not like some emo/screamo/hardcore/melodic hardcore bands because they arn't what you like, but its dumb to make fun of someone or even say you HATE someone you never met just because they have a different musical view than you do, even though they think enough of the music that you like to post it on a forum. And what the hell is wrong with people commenting on a band they strongly dislike, when they obviously don't own an album by them. I think before you cut down a band or a person you should actually know what your dealing with and not follow along in a crowd in which you feel emotionally safe cause your just sucking up to who you think is arbitrally in command (Dfelon) Anyways, to set the record straight, emo/screamo both share similar qualities. Both consist of emotionally charged lyrics or themes, somtimes with or without screaming, and have a loud soft guitar dynamic. That is emo no matter which way you slice it. So anything that fits into that catagory has to be emo, if you like the band or not, its still emocore.

I don't know about The Great Redneck Hope being screamo. The emphasis is on being chaotic and heavy, rather than having that emotion shine through. I hear virtually none of it.

That's true, but on "A Rhetorical Question: What Do Christian Kids Talk About? (Ex: "God Is Awesome" "Totally!")" there's like that soft piano part outro thing.

Yeah but that doesn't make them screamo.

stfu

Is Strike Anywhere screamo?

LOVE THAT BAND!!

[QUOTE=XemoXmoshXpitX]Is Strike Anywhere screamo?

LOVE THAT BAND!![/QUOTE]
strike anywhere is punk.

moron

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Emo always has some form of screaming or shouting. The point is you're supposed to let out the emotion are hard as you can. Singing rarely cuts it unless it's so saturated with/fitting to the emotion of the song. When it is all screaming and doesn't vary much in magnitude or tone, the emo is rendered screamo. Ta da!

Also, you didn't include many of the musical components of emo. You just said that they have a loud soft guitar dynamic, which is often true [i]but[/i] you're neglecting the fact that emo doesn't follow the verse chorus verse paradigm. It has mostly clean tone guitar and bass so that when the songs get fast and chaotic, which they do, the sound isn't heavy as much as it is abrasive, which complements the similar vocal style. Want me to go on? I have a bio lab to prepare and I don't want to spend the evening beating you in this argument. Just go away and masturbate in your closet while watching the OC.[/QUOTE]

Dfelon Owns All. Period.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]Dfelon Owns All. Period.[/QUOTE]
agreed

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]I don't know about The Great Redneck Hope being screamo. The emphasis is on being chaotic and heavy, rather than having that emotion shine through. I hear virtually none of it.[/QUOTE]

There's not any real emotional range to TGRH (at least from what I've heard of them), it's all a grind-style scream vocally, and the music is more technical than chaotic (think DEP vs. Heroin). I guess that you could say it's dynamically emo, but I tend to think that that would break the contraints and extent the proper emo tag to pretty much all midwest emo, because it employs the same dynamics.

I might have said this but I think Song Of Zarathustra and Clikitat Ikatowi should be switched on those lists. SOZ just seems more screamo to me. I've got some bands for the list though:

Emo:
Transistor, Transistor
[URL=http://www.purevolume.com/vanjohnson]Van Johnson[/URL]
[URL=http://www.purevolume.com/forstellaford]Forstella Ford[/URL]

Need Classification:
Ruins
Racebannon

forstella ford is math rock, i thought. all this classification **** gives me a headache. but i agree with dfelon and the guy with the big list on the first page, plus a few bands. where the **** is indian summer? where the **** is still life? yaaaaaaaaawn.

Indian Summer and Stil Life have both been mentioned.

Did I classify those other ones right Buddy?

I'm not sure about Fortsella Ford...

Van Johnson, yeah. I don't remember what Transistor, Transistor and Racebannon sound like, and I've never heard Ruins.

Ruins = Japanese noise.

Ugh. Like Merzbow?

I've been browsing around purevolume.com for independant bands. I found some really good ones.
When it comes to commercial Emo I recommend Bosio.
And, they have a different sound, IMO, but a good band (from Portland, Oregon, my hometown. Woot, bitches) is Duelesc. I also like Dear Whoever when it comes to the local scence.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Ugh. Like Merzbow?[/QUOTE]

A little, but they have much more cohesive sound. It's more noise-rock, with hardcore and prog influences.

Very good.

Can anyone reccomend me some good bands that sound like Saetia. I started listening to them about a month ago and I love them, and I want to get into other bands that sound like that, kinda, that style.

[QUOTE=Tangy zizzle]A little, but they have much more cohesive sound. It's more noise-rock, with hardcore and prog influences.

Very good.[/QUOTE]

Nice to see someone who knows about them. They sounded impressive when I listened.

[QUOTE=StormX]Can anyone reccomend me some good bands that sound like Saetia. I started listening to them about a month ago and I love them, and I want to get into other bands that sound like that, kinda, that style.[/QUOTE]

Firstly, Hot Cross. They have the same singer. I'm actually seeing them tonight.

Other good screamo:
After School Knife Fight
Usurp Synapse
Kaospilot
You and I
The Vidablue

I looked up every band on Level Plane last night, but I didn't have much luck (except for Van Johnson and Forstella Ford). But there are some weird bands on there. Anyway, I remember The Vidablue being on there. Have fun at the show.

*Missed Hot Cross when they came here with LickGoldenSky :upset:*

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]I looked up every band on Level Plane last night, but I didn't have much luck (except for Van Johnson and Forstella Ford). But there are some weird bands on there. Anyway, I remember The Vidablue being on there. Have fun at the show.

*Missed Hot Cross when they came here with LickGoldenSky :upset:*[/QUOTE]
level plane has good stuff, and some ****ty stuff

what would you class 'a perfect kiss' as. I got a few mp3s of them off hxcmp3.com and i really really like it, but what the hell is it?