Im hoping you meant to put arent instead of are ^^

Ive heard that the female character in the Schism video is played by Adam Jones' wife, can anyone confirm this?

[QUOTE=christonastick]Ive heard that the female character in the Schism video is played by Adam Jones' wife, can anyone confirm this?[/QUOTE]

I had heard that as well. I actually think she is the person that toured with them last time they toured. Remember the couple who were all blue that walked around on thier feet and hands on stage? Im about 99% positive it is the people they had on tour. They walked the same way on the stage as they are in the video.

[QUOTE=BunnYzWillEAtYoU]maybe thats why you still suck[/QUOTE]


lmao

I'm gonna try to interpret one of my favorite Tool songs, Pu****.

Song: Pu****
Album: Aenema

Alright Pu**** is a long song clokcing in at about 9:57. I also think this is one of Tool's most emotiona songs. The song starts out with lines that will later be repeated in the song, as an intro. "saw the gap again today, but you were begging me to stay, take care not to make me enter, if I do we both may disappear". I think this is Maynard leaving someone, and that person was begging him to stay, but he knows that if he does, then something bad will happen. "take care not to make me enter, if I do we both may disappear."

Then it goes to "I will choke until I swallow/ Choke this infant here before me. What is this but my reflection? Who am I to judge or strike you down?" This is him regretting what hes doing "what is this but my refelction, who am I to judge or strike you down?" Then he says "But you're pushing and shoving me", wheich means, even though I don't wanna do this, I have to. You keep making me. This song is aimed at one person, a person thats either done something wrong, possibly forcing something on Maynard. "I'm slipping back into the gap again/ I'm alive when your touching me, but not when you're shoving me down". Which means this person is special to him, but when they act a certain way, he doesn't like it. "I'd trade it all just for a little peace of mind". Hes leaving for some peace of mind. Its not worth what he has to put up with. The ending is the most emotional. And my favorite lines. "There's no love in fear. Staring down the hole again. Hands upon my back again. Survival is my only friend. Terrified of what may come. Just remember I will always love you, even as I tear your ****ing throat away. But it will end no other way." It seems like he once loved this person, but not any more, and if he stays, he just might die. And this hole, I think it represents his downfall. If he stayed with this person, he would've gone down that hole. And now hes questioning if he should do this, "staring down the hole again". Then the last two lines. "Remember I will always love you. Even as I tear your ****ing throat away." I think this is murder. He ends up killing this person. A love that was once there. But now is gone. Because that person was "pushing and shoving" him. I hope I did a good job.I might be way off. But this is what I thought. Thanks.

Hey guys, I've been on hols and im not impressed with the state of this thread :upset:

Anyways to get to my point I downloaded Stainds version of Sober. I'm actually quite impressed. Many people would do a direct cover of the song and the vocalist try and imitate Maynards pronounciations and so forth.
However this version is slower than tool's. The cymbal (I'm no drummer but I think its the high hat) is very lose and is preminant (sp?) I think some of the fills are different too.
Aarons voice is it's usual self, he changes the dynamics just before he sings 'Jesus won't you fukin whistle' his voice goes from quiet to a real powerful voice that staind fans will recognise . He uses a flattened vibrato technique when he sings whistle which is really cool and is used throughout the song.
Staind use an acoustic guitar which is refreshingly different from tools version, it is loud and powerful, but also soft at the same time.
The version i have is live, The quality of the music and vocals is immense, I'm quite impressed how aaron maintained his voice.

All in all i think staind did well and i give it 9/10, however, being a staind fan i am slightly biased so take from the review what you will :)

Does anyone know any facts about Tool's upcoming album? (They are working on one). Also, the rumors about live DVDs?

heyhey...does anyone know about the guy who wrote down all his interpretations of what maynard meant with his lyrics?? you can download it from [url]www.vanillacircus.net[/url]
i was really interested...but my computer won't let me download it...has anyone read it?? any opinions on it?? and do any of you have it in some sort of form which you could send to me?? thanks...:)

[QUOTE=Happymeal]True, some or most are nowadays. But don't just go stereotyping all Christians and come up with the conclusion that we make God as an excuse for ****ing up.

Anyways, I first heard Tool in a record store somewhere two years ago, and immediately liked Parabola, then I bought Lateralus(which I think is their best, in almost all aspects, and foul language from their older stuff isn't really my thing) . My favorite song is..The Patient. For me its literal meaning tells you to, well, be patient, because something is bound to happen and I think the song says something about hardships and change too("no loving embrace to see me through..I'm gonna wait it out").[/QUOTE]

perhaps this was stupid of me...but i took the patient to be sort of...i can't really explain it...mocking people of blind faith...i could be wrong...in fact i probably am...but...am i?? :confused:

That book looks genius, thanks man :thumb: I will download tomorrow and tell y'all what i think :)

"For supposed Tool fans, you guys are pretty quick to judge, almost making you hypocrits... "

I dont think 17 years of experience with christians is a quick judgement, I went to christian summer camps and things, it sucked, people are obsessed, they told me grandma died, because she was bad in a bad life, if I didnt read the bible, im going to die and go to hell also the christians I know are bigger sinners then me, Im not saying all christians are like this, just religious people I usually come across.

I agree with thepanicinneedlepark. as for that book, I tried to download it. but it didn't work for me either.

I've heard Shinedown sounds a lot like Tool. Any thoughts? I think bascially other than the chorus of their single, 45, they suck.

[QUOTE=ThePanicInNeedlePark]"For supposed Tool fans, you guys are pretty quick to judge, almost making you hypocrits... "

I dont think 17 years of experience with christians is a quick judgement, I went to christian summer camps and things, it sucked, people are obsessed, they told me grandma died, because she was bad in a bad life, if I didnt read the bible, im going to die and go to hell also the christians I know are bigger sinners then me, Im not saying all christians are like this, just religious people I usually come across.[/QUOTE]

exactly
its the same deal with me. my opinions based on years of hanging out with christians, and ive decided i dont like most of them because most of them are so full of their beliefs. they wont leave you the hell alone. whatever.

guess who managed to get hold of the book...me :D...basically its not set out as it should be but i think me not being able to get it was something to do with me having windows 98...but if anyone can't download it and wants to read it post your email addresses and it'll be winging it's way straight to you :thumb:

i just didnt have acrobat reader..downloading it right now

cool cool...as for what i said about the patient...any help??

I couldn't download and wana read it. my email is [email]neeshaker@bellsouth.net[/email] . thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I couldn't download and wana read it. my email is [email]neeshaker@bellsouth.net[/email] . thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

i just sent it through...hope it works...if not moan at me and i'll send it again...haven't read it yet but i shall do later...enjoy :thumb:

thanks man. I got the email.

I always looked at schism as a broken marriage. Since the word schism is very commonly used religiosly, I thought thats why Maynard might have went in another direction with it (since thats kinda his style).

mahhh what the hell do I know....

By the way TooLowns[U][B]ME[/B][/U], I answered your trivia back there somewhere. Im not sure if anyone cares AT ALL. Did I at least get the right freakin answers?

I've heard that the band Earshot sounds a lot like Tool. I checked out some of their stuff. And I don't think they sound ne thing like Tool. Ne thoughts on this? I don't think I would listen to them if they were a Tool spin off. Some Tool wanna be. You can't copy Tool's sound. Tool is tool, you can't try to be like them.

bump

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]thanks man. I got the email.[/QUOTE]

no problemo :thumb: i figured whilst reading it the order was a bit messed up but i'm sure you'll be able to make it make sense...


anyhoo...last night i was up til 3 reading that...a lot of it was really interesting and pointed out things i wouldn't have been able to worik out in years...the guy did his research pretty well...i have a few points that came up when i was reading it that he didn't put down which i will post tomorrow probably it's just i'm off out now...

but i do recommend it to all you guys who are interested in some of the more obscure tool lyrics...or those of you who have any interest at all in tool...until i read it i knew that the lyrics were deep but i didn't understand just how deep some of them were...

and once you've read it if you do...post on whether or not you agree on it/would add anything to it/disagree with any of it...or just any other general comments...

:)

[QUOTE=clearvision]Hey guys, I've been on hols and im not impressed with the state of this thread :upset:

Anyways to get to my point I downloaded Stainds version of Sober. I'm actually quite impressed. Many people would do a direct cover of the song and the vocalist try and imitate Maynards pronounciations and so forth.
However this version is slower than tool's. The cymbal (I'm no drummer but I think its the high hat) is very lose and is preminant (sp?) I think some of the fills are different too.
Aarons voice is it's usual self, he changes the dynamics just before he sings 'Jesus won't you fukin whistle' his voice goes from quiet to a real powerful voice that staind fans will recognise . He uses a flattened vibrato technique when he sings whistle which is really cool and is used throughout the song.
Staind use an acoustic guitar which is refreshingly different from tools version, it is loud and powerful, but also soft at the same time.
The version i have is live, The quality of the music and vocals is immense, I'm quite impressed how aaron maintained his voice.

All in all i think staind did well and i give it 9/10, however, being a staind fan i am slightly biased so take from the review what you will :)[/QUOTE]


Well....I thought it was really bad. I don't like Staind...I do understand and get their music...IMO it's not good music...Anyway..I would give it a 4/10...

BTW I listened to the songs in the order that some people claimed to be "mysitcal" .. It had no effect whatsoever on me...did it have an effect on other people??

Tool is an amazing band. My fave tunes are Stinkfist, Parabola, Lateralus and of course the EPIC Eulogy! Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, I love Adam's stattico riffs. Maynard is an amazing singer. I love the tribalistic, earthy production that their records have. With bands like SOAD, Deftones & Tool the state of rock music is very healthy indeed.

I don't really know what to think about Tool, the guitar and bass player are really talented, and they make beautiful riffs sometimes, but on the other hand, the drummer is like the Yngwie Malmsteen of drums, and on the other other hand, the singers voice is good (when he uses the studio vocal effects which he does alot) but on the other other other hand, his lyrics ****ign suck *** and make me want to go beat up the kid down the street who is a maynard freak, as a band, i'd have to give them 5 stars out of 10

[QUOTE=vixfinger11metallica20]
BTW I listened to the songs in the order that some people claimed to be "mysitcal" .. It had no effect whatsoever on me...did it have an effect on other people??[/QUOTE]

You may not have done it correctly, it wont work if u just play tthme in that order by changing tracks, as you get the delay in between. it also wonmt work by putting together a media playlist and playing it, as it needs the CD elements to work. Its a bit of effort to do properly, and I still haven't done it myself, but the result is a better mix of the tracks and they flow into eah other a lot better.

As for a mystical element, there is no change to the songs, so it is only to get the most out of the album, it wont automatically make it sound 10x better (which is a hard thing to do in any case, the album being as solid as it is)

In case anyone else hasn't a clue about the track ordering, ill put up the link again
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html[/url] (dont worry, its a safe link)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]You may not have done it correctly, it wont work if u just play tthme in that order by changing tracks, as you get the delay in between. it also wonmt work by putting together a media playlist and playing it, as it needs the CD elements to work. Its a bit of effort to do properly, and I still haven't done it myself, but the result is a better mix of the tracks and they flow into eah other a lot better.

As for a mystical element, there is no change to the songs, so it is only to get the most out of the album, it wont automatically make it sound 10x better (which is a hard thing to do in any case, the album being as solid as it is)

In case anyone else hasn't a clue about the track ordering, ill put up the link again
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/question/insight7.html[/url] (dont worry, its a safe link)[/QUOTE]

I guess you are right....

[QUOTE=SexyPineapple]I don't really know what to think about Tool, the guitar and bass player are really talented, and they make beautiful riffs sometimes, but on the other hand, the drummer is like the Yngwie Malmsteen of drums, and on the other other hand, the singers voice is good (when he uses the studio vocal effects which he does alot) but on the other other other hand, his lyrics ****ign suck *** and make me want to go beat up the kid down the street who is a maynard freak, as a band, i'd have to give them 5 stars out of 10[/QUOTE]
so how many tool songs have you heard?

I do remember in an interview Danny saying something like "if you listen to this album , you better have a protection spell ...." of course, its tool, so you just dont know if he's serious. I'll have to try the alternate order. i had heard about it when the album first came out but never really put much idea in it that the order of some songs will have a mystical effect. but if anybody can have a mystical experience it would be me. so, we'll check it out. the thing is i cant program my currenct cd player. How is everyone else doing it? well i do have two cds. hmmmm. aw ****, one is scratched up bad though. :confused:

I managed to get one of my DJ friends to mix two copies but he literally tried to mix them in that annoying DJ way, so it didnt work as well as I hoped.

I copied the tracks on to my PC, then burned them in the alternate order

[QUOTE=petrucci_wannabee]I copied the tracks on to my PC, then burned them in the alternate order[/QUOTE]

Did that work though? I did it and the songs were all spaced apart by a second or two as soon as I copied them

Hm... I gotta try that. also I read that tool book, after I downloaded acrobat reader. and it was really really good. a lot of things I didn't know. but I wanna throw something out there for you guys, the song Stinkfist, when I first looked at its lyrics, I thought it was about drugs. Now I know after asking another tool fan, that its about anal fisting, and stimulation, etc. But in the tool book, the guy said it was a conversation between the drug and the addict. And it makes perfect sense to me. Yet so does the anal fisting. can they both be right?

I think someone should make a site an stream the tool album in alternative order mixed properly for all us tool fans :D

Dammit, I cant download that Tool Book, it seems from comments being made it is a well thought out opinionated piece of work. Can someone send it to me?

[QUOTE=vixfinger11metallica20]Have any of you heard Staind's Sober cover...? They practically ruined an amazing song. If any of you have ..tell me about it.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I've heard that cover and I really didn't like much either. I've also heard Limp Bizkit's cover of "Opiate"...and I really didn't enjoy that one either.

a wee bit of info on the Tool DVD
 

live DVD - form the last six shows of the 2002 tour - no release date yet.

this is kind of old i think. i saw it on one of the biggest Tool sites. dont quote me on it though

Awesome...can't wait.

*prays that they include a multi-angle feature so I can watch Danny Carey the whole time*