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theabstract 07-30-2004 02:36 PM

yeah starting a studios lotsa fun. I'm pretty exited myself...we're doing a new cd in 2 weeks (yay) its gunna be fun. I havn't recorded anything in ages. Yay i also have another band coming in to do a demo. ($200 :) ) Theres an update on my life lol.

Aes820 07-31-2004 05:09 AM

[QUOTE=X0senses_fail0X]I have a really old 4-track recorder, that records onto cassettes. Me(drums) and my friend (guitar) have a couple songs, and we want to record them in hopes to come up with lyrics eventually. Problem is we only have one mic. What would be the best way to do this? LIke just use the mic for drums and guitar(from the amp) Or straight in with guitar, and mic for drums?. Also where would be the best place to put the mic to record drums and guitar?[/QUOTE]
One mic for the drumkit ay?
Position the mic at about shoulder height a foot or two behind the drummer. This location usually gives you the best reuslts while using jsut the one mic.
Run the guitarists amps direct into the 4-track. If you can. But watch your levels.

X0senses_fail0X 07-31-2004 11:28 AM

Thanks alot

takemypicture 08-02-2004 02:20 PM

Alright, now I'm a bit of a newbie at this kinda thing, and with the help of your Lesson #3 I managed to record stuff with Cool Edit Pro 2.0 (formerly known as Adobe Audtition, I think). My problem is that when I'm recording and doing the "Moniter Record Levels" thing, only the top green bar is moving around. The bottom one doesnt do anything, and then once I've recorded something and I'm playing it back, the sound is only coming out of one speaker. I apologize for my ignorance but could someone please help me out with this? Thanks.

theabstract 08-02-2004 03:19 PM

thats coz guitars are mono...(only the left bar will go up...what you need to do is go to the side of the track that your recording in and click "rec 1" and then once your in there...change it to mono.

takemypicture 08-02-2004 03:44 PM

Thanks a lot!

theabstract 08-02-2004 05:02 PM

no problemo

GenerixDrummer 08-03-2004 11:49 PM

ok my band wants to record music but all we have is a video cam.Like we have the AMps and pa system speakers inthe back ofthe garage next to my drums if we were to put the camera in the front ofthe garage would it sound ok to record ?

theabstract 08-04-2004 01:53 AM

that would sound pretty s-h-i-t....but you could always chuck the sound from the camera onto your computer and try to clean it up a bit in there.

Led Guitar 08-04-2004 03:01 PM

It's actually not bad, if you have a good camcorder.

Led Guitar 08-04-2004 03:02 PM

But where you place the speakers and drumset is critical.

GenerixDrummer 08-04-2004 03:07 PM

well where is a good place to place the camera and the speakers and the drums?

black_star 08-04-2004 04:47 PM

when are ya gonna convert this into lessons format you said you were gonna do ?
i'm a newbie and more than half of the things that you said were not understood, but i still got lotsa time as i'm still working for my bass, and by the time i learn bass, make a band , make songs/covers , i could learn all this. i'm 16 btw

theabstract 08-04-2004 04:52 PM

gimme your email and i'll send you the printable version

drummerdunc86 08-04-2004 11:32 PM

okay...

i bought this computer: [url]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=541568&sku=E400-T2778[/url]

i bought Adobe Audition.

my dad is lending my a mixer and some mic's.

now how do i hook up the mixer to the computer? (there is a front/back pic of the computer in that link)
do i hook it into one of those audio jacks?

theabstract 08-05-2004 12:48 AM

hook the mixer into the "line in" audio jack...the speakers go in the "line out"...you leave the "mic in" empty :)

drummerdunc86 08-05-2004 07:59 AM

thanks :D

Led Guitar 08-05-2004 11:13 AM

I'm trying to record Guitar > Mixer > RCA to 1/4 into a 1/4 to 1/8" adapter. How ever it sounds terrible. I get almost nothing at all. What am I don't wrong. I have Behringer UB802 mixer.

bonzia 08-05-2004 02:35 PM

hey theabstract i wanted to talk about setting up a recording studio really not about a home recording.

i was wondering like how hard it was to set up and if theres big risks and stuff involved, also how old were u when u set it up?ummmmm and is it good money

im sure i had lots more q? but i 4got them anyway thatll do for now. sorry if this has been covered but i didnt bother reading through all the pages

AfroDrummer16 08-05-2004 02:37 PM

ok i have a ? for theabstract, recently my band recored a couple of songs with a really ****ty digital camera about the size of your hand, hear them at [url]www.purevolume.com/lostcalvary[/url] but neways is there recording software I can dowload from kazaa to make the recordings sound better?

bonzia 08-05-2004 03:12 PM

oh bum i just read your confession theabstract but anyway are you thinking of setting up a studio?

and how do you know so much if your reallyonly 15?

also has anyone set up a studio, is it hard?

theabstract 08-05-2004 03:42 PM

I have a studio, its not hard if you know what your doing

theabstract 08-05-2004 03:45 PM

^^^ but it costs heaps and heaps....and unless you can make a decent name for yourself quickly...you ain't goin no-where. Dont get me wrong dude..just coz i'm 15 doesnt mean I dont sell studio time. Yeah so bassically the amount of business you do will depend on your knowledge, how you can implement that knowledge and if people know about you.

theabstract 08-05-2004 03:47 PM

^^^^oh yeah and its incredble money if people think you are worth it. Me ($30)/hour thats 5 times minimum wage for 15 year olds in my country

theabstract 08-05-2004 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=AfroDrummer16]ok i have a ? for theabstract, recently my band recored a couple of songs with a really ****ty digital camera about the size of your hand, hear them at [url]www.purevolume.com/lostcalvary[/url] but neways is there recording software I can dowload from kazaa to make the recordings sound better?[/QUOTE]
your best bet would be to get cool edit 2.0 or adobe audition and try to tweak the e.q and compression to try to clean up the tracks a little, bassically its kinda hard to fix a ****ty recording unless u know what ur doing...um...whats your adress? i'll come round and give u a hand lol.

AfroDrummer16 08-05-2004 05:26 PM

haha, i doubt you live in wichita, kansas, thanks for the suggestion tho...

bonzia 08-05-2004 05:47 PM

so how did you learn all that you know it cant of all been off the internet cuz its not that type of thing is it? urr ho much hav u spent on your recording equpment then? and where do you record ?

Aes820 08-05-2004 05:50 PM

^ In cool edit there is a noise reduction filter. Used to decrease white noise. It might help.. That along with a bit of selective EQing.
But the thing with video cameras is, you're never going to get a very good recording quality in the first place.
And no matter how much you try to dress it up, the quality is never going to improve too much because the quality was never there in the first place..
But, by all means give it a go and tweak it.

bonzia 08-05-2004 05:51 PM

im going to bed now

omGiTsJameS08 08-05-2004 11:51 PM

i have a 10$ mic under some towels it records way better


[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/noescapemusic.htm[/url]


put it under towels it records a bit better i dont know if it evens out sounds wav or what i have no idea about this crap i just noticed i out towels overi t and recorded better

theabstract 08-06-2004 12:09 AM

wow lol ^^^^

drummerdunc86 08-06-2004 05:18 PM

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this is the mixer im going to be using...anyone familiar with this mixer...? (MACKIE Micro Series 1202)

drummerdunc86 08-06-2004 05:21 PM

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thechaosrealm 08-07-2004 10:37 AM

looks like you've got a lot of knowledge man. i wouldn't recommend telling people to download the software though. that's illegal. :thumb: also, your drum micing is cool, but sometimes it's too much, especially if someone is just trying to get a basic recording. bass drum is the easiest to be miked up for me. i've got a shure pg-52 and it works great; just throw it an inch back from the hole, stuff a pillow inside the drum, it sounds perfect. i have a dynamic microphone positioned behind my drummer's head positioned closer to the ride than the hi-hat; that way it picks up the ride well. i have a condenser overhead near the hi-hat and crashes and splashes that he has on that side. and i've also got another condenser over the china and crashes on the ride side; it picks all those up louder than the ride which is why the mic behind helps to get that a little better. the mic behind the drummer picks everything up well, but i like the condensers on top just to add some brightness. they don't even need to be loud; just there a little. this has been the most effective way for me to mic drums. like i mentioned before; you only need the two mics for those budget tight people.

i strongly recommend throwing sheets up in the room if you're in a small room. we have a LOT of reverb because our band room is like, 12x14 but once we throw up some blankets and whatnot it'll be a lot better.



ACOUSTIC FOAM!!!!

check out ebay for some acoustic foam. i found some really good deals; yea it was used, but it was in great shape no rips or tears or anything.

actually, ebay is a great place to start looking for everything. you can always find rockin deals if you're patient and look around for a few days.

that's all i've got for now guys.

theabstract 08-07-2004 02:34 PM

Who cares if its illegal^^^^ Its not like cops check home pc for programs (except in germany)

Led Guitar 08-07-2004 10:18 PM

What's the point of acoustic foam? Just to soundproof a room?

theabstract 08-07-2004 11:13 PM

^^^no...it hardly soundproofs at all. It stops soundwaves reverberating off the wall and back into the mic. This is important coz the waves coming into the mic off the wall will be different to the ones coming out of your mouth/ guitar amp etc.

drummerdunc86 08-08-2004 01:43 PM

i have carpet on my walls, is that good enough?

theabstract 08-08-2004 03:03 PM

^^^ its a helluva lot better than nothing!

SillyPuddyonIce 08-08-2004 04:55 PM

I'm sorry if this was asked, but I wasnt about to read through 8 pages to see...

My friend is starting a small little studio out of his basement. He has couple of good microphones, an couple thousand dollar recorder with 16 tracks I believe, and has plenty of other equipment. He has no clue really what he should charge? He was thinking like a $100 for the whole thing if it only takes a few days.

What should he charge? My band will probably be his first customers in a few months.


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