[QUOTE=Tillius]Oh God, I've been flirting with Pam a bit. :upset:[/QUOTE]

Speaking of flirting, I need some help here, if anyone's up for it.

[QUOTE=Guns'n'Zeppelin023]well, of course, i'm just pulling this out of my as[size=2]s[/size].[/QUOTE]
No, you're right.



Kimmie, I'm always ready to help.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Speaking of flirting, I need some help here, if anyone's up for it.[/QUOTE]

OHH OHH OHHH

PICK ME PICK ME

*waves hands wildly in the air*

Met a new girl today that I REALLY REALLY have feelings for, suddenly, we've talked like... 3 times, but when I do... I get that wussy happy butterfly feeling.

Jesus, how am I supposed to get to talk to a woman I rarely ever see more often?

[QUOTE=Guns'n'Zeppelin023]OHH OHH OHHH

PICK ME PICK ME

*waves hands wildly in the air*[/QUOTE]
/puts on evil face

Sit...your...as[size=2]s[/size]...the...fuc[size=2]k[/size]...down.

[QUOTE=Tillius]/puts on evil face

Sit...your...as[size=2]s[/size]...the...fuc[size=2]k[/size]...down.[/QUOTE]


yes'm :upset:

Good choice bro. :evil:

Kimmie, where's your troubles?

makes me think this is gonna be reallllllllllllllllly long. o well, cheers :chug:

Say guys, I'm trying to get a name change, since Ia) dont listen to either of these bands much anymore and b) have baisically stopped posting in R&M anyway.
So like, maybe one of you guys could just post me a nice short "he used to suck, but hes getting better".

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I think I'm going crazy

Okay guys...I'm gonna try to get this as concise as possible without boring you guys to tears.

I have a friend (girl). She's 25, and very insecure (she's large). She hangs out on the same local board as I do. She's very smart and funny. She helped me through some of my darkest days last year.

She's not had good luck in the last year with guys. She was dating one of the guys that sometimes hangs out on that board for 3 months or so. I dated him before she got together with her. He's 21. She doesn't know I dated him, btw. I didn't want to hurt her by telling her that.

Anyway, he dumped her, and that's when she and I became friends. I was in an on again/off again relationship with my ex. She provided the support to get me through leaving him.

Her next relationship was some goofy psycho who played her like a piano for a couple of months, then left her. All during that relationship she had been really good friends with a guitar player in a local band. Who's had a girlfriend since he was around 17. He's also 21.

In short, he cheated on his girlfriend with her once. She took that to mean undying love on his part. They managed to remain in touch...with him giving her just enough encouragement for her to think there was something there. But, he's getting married in May.

My problem? Everytime she's in the midst of a split up she goes crazy flirting, trying to find validation. She doesn't seem to understand that propositioning someone doesn't equal undying love. Here is where it gets sticky: at one point she was doing that hard and heavy with my crush. He'd just kinda tease her and that, but it got to the point where I felt I needed to point out to her that it was hurtful to me. That's the exact word I used - hurtful. I didn't ask her to stop, I just said it was hurtful. Her response? "Well, I'm not doing anything wrong and you need to get a grip and I'm not attracted to him like that at all."

I do not flirt. I do not know why she needs to be doing that.

She calmed it down a little after that, but would still do it on occasion. In spite of the way I felt.

Last night, she told me that my crush was getting her another monitor for $20, and she was driving up to get it from him today. I bitched that he never offers to do stuff like that for me, and she took it as I was accusing her of flirting with him again. I said she could do whatever she wanted. But she went on and on about it to the point where I got so pissed that I said, "Go up there and [size=2]f[/size]uck him till he turns blue, I don't care. And, if I ever get unmad at *the love of her life* I'll do the same for you."

She responded after a while and was pissed. She said, "You know deep down I would never hurt you like you just hurt me." And basically hung up on me.

Anyone's take?

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Okay guys...I'm gonna try to get this as concise as possible without boring you guys to tears.

I have a friend (girl). She's 25, and very insecure (she's large). She hangs out on the same local board as I do. She's very smart and funny. She helped me through some of my darkest days last year.

She's not had good luck in the last year with guys. She was dating one of the guys that sometimes hangs out on that board for 3 months or so. I dated him before she got together with her. He's 21. She doesn't know I dated him, btw. I didn't want to hurt her by telling her that.

Anyway, he dumped her, and that's when she and I became friends. I was in an on again/off again relationship with my ex. She provided the support to get me through leaving him.

Her next relationship was some goofy psycho who played her like a piano for a couple of months, then left her. All during that relationship she had been really good friends with a guitar player in a local band. Who's had a girlfriend since he was around 17. He's also 21.

In short, he cheated on his girlfriend with her once. She took that to mean undying love on his part. They managed to remain in touch...with him giving her just enough encouragement for her to think there was something there. But, he's getting married in May.

My problem? Everytime she's in the midst of a split up she goes crazy flirting, trying to find validation. She doesn't seem to understand that propositioning someone doesn't equal undying love. Here is where it gets sticky: at one point she was doing that hard and heavy with my crush. He'd just kinda tease her and that, but it got to the point where I felt I needed to point out to her that it was hurtful to me. That's the exact word I used - hurtful. I didn't ask her to stop, I just said it was hurtful. Her response? "Well, I'm not doing anything wrong and you need to get a grip and I'm not attracted to him like that at all."

I do not flirt. I do not know why she needs to be doing that.

She calmed it down a little after that, but would still do it on occasion. In spite of the way I felt.

Last night, she told me that my crush was getting her another monitor for $20, and she was driving up to get it from him today. I bitched that he never offers to do stuff like that for me, and she took it as I was accusing her of flirting with him again. I said she could do whatever she wanted. But she went on and on about it to the point where I got so pissed that I said, "Go up there and [size=2]f[/size]uck him till he turns blue, I don't care. And, if I ever get unmad at *the love of her life* I'll do the same for you."

She responded after a while and was pissed. She said, "You know deep down I would never hurt you like you just hurt me." And basically hung up on me.

Anyone's take?[/QUOTE]

A) wow, what a predictiment, giving advice to you.. *twilight zone theme*

b)I really don't know what to tell you, I mean, i don't have much real life experience, you know? BUt If you too just sit down and talk. It will help.
This is going to sound REALLY lame, as it should be, becuase i learned it in middle school health class. BUt when your in a situation like this, its best to you "I-messages" you know, instead of saying, " you this, you that" say" i feel hurt by some of the things you are doing" and such, that was it gets more to the point, and doesn't point blame, which turns people defensive.

Edit: beat you tillius. :evil:

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]Okay guys...I'm gonna try to get this as concise as possible without boring you guys to tears.

I have a friend (girl). She's 25, and very insecure (she's large). She hangs out on the same local board as I do. She's very smart and funny. She helped me through some of my darkest days last year.

She's not had good luck in the last year with guys. She was dating one of the guys that sometimes hangs out on that board for 3 months or so. I dated him before she got together with her. He's 21. She doesn't know I dated him, btw. I didn't want to hurt her by telling her that.

Anyway, he dumped her, and that's when she and I became friends. I was in an on again/off again relationship with my ex. She provided the support to get me through leaving him.

Her next relationship was some goofy psycho who played her like a piano for a couple of months, then left her. All during that relationship she had been really good friends with a guitar player in a local band. Who's had a girlfriend since he was around 17. He's also 21.

In short, he cheated on his girlfriend with her once. She took that to mean undying love on his part. They managed to remain in touch...with him giving her just enough encouragement for her to think there was something there. But, he's getting married in May.

My problem? Everytime she's in the midst of a split up she goes crazy flirting, trying to find validation. She doesn't seem to understand that propositioning someone doesn't equal undying love. Here is where it gets sticky: at one point she was doing that hard and heavy with my crush. He'd just kinda tease her and that, but it got to the point where I felt I needed to point out to her that it was hurtful to me. That's the exact word I used - hurtful. I didn't ask her to stop, I just said it was hurtful. Her response? "Well, I'm not doing anything wrong and you need to get a grip and I'm not attracted to him like that at all."

I do not flirt. I do not know why she needs to be doing that.

She calmed it down a little after that, but would still do it on occasion. In spite of the way I felt.

Last night, she told me that my crush was getting her another monitor for $20, and she was driving up to get it from him today. I bitched that he never offers to do stuff like that for me, and she took it as I was accusing her of flirting with him again. I said she could do whatever she wanted. But she went on and on about it to the point where I got so pissed that I said, "Go up there and [size=2]f[/size]uck him till he turns blue, I don't care. And, if I ever get unmad at *the love of her life* I'll do the same for you."

She responded after a while and was pissed. She said, "You know deep down I would never hurt you like you just hurt me." And basically hung up on me.

Anyone's take?[/QUOTE]
The way I see it, you had every right to be angry. If she's flirting with your crush, then by all means, be pissed about it. Flirting with the guy is one thing, but after you went up to her and specifically told her that it was making you feel hurt that she was flirting with YOUR crush, then she should have stopped right there, but she didn't. So, if anybody was going to get mad at anybody, it was you who had the right. If she can't handle the fact that you got angry over something that you have every right to get angry about, then that is her problem, and she, in my own personal thoughts, can get the fuc[size=2]k[/size] over it.

-Thoughts from Tillius


And, Nick, we've established you're going to go crazy about not going back to your house, but, what, did you just move or something?


Guns N Zeppelin, it appears you must now die.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]*snip*[/QUOTE]
You said it in your first few lines, she's insecure. I think her manic flirt comes from that fact. She's dying for attention and is willing to get it from anyone, and probably might possibly have a habit of making it seem like some being polite and maybe flirting along with her (being nice) as them being attracted to her, then the story gets retold and exaggerated, yadda yadda yadda.


What can you do? I'm not sure, but I can think of two possible solutions, both of them suck. 1. You can ignore it, passing it off as "something she does"

or

2. You can cut her off, and not associate with her if it bothers you that much.



I dunno, I'm pretty tired, and after awhile, reading things become a big mess in my head, so I hope I read your post correctly, and having read it correctly, answered what help you were looking for. I dunno.

[QUOTE=Tillius]


Guns N Zeppelin, it appears you must now die.[/QUOTE]

imsrry. i love you babe

[QUOTE=Guns'n'Zeppelin023]A) wow, what a predictiment, giving advice to you.. *twilight zone theme*

b)I really don't know what to tell you, I mean, i don't have much real life experience, you know? BUt If you too just sit down and talk. It will help.
This is going to sound REALLY lame, as it should be, becuase i learned it in middle school health class. BUt when your in a situation like this, its best to you "I-messages" you know, instead of saying, " you this, you that" say" i feel hurt by some of the things you are doing" and such, that was it gets more to the point, and doesn't point blame, which turns people defensive.

Edit: beat you tillius. :evil:[/QUOTE]


^ That made me giggle.

This is why I told her "When you flirt with him I feel hurt." Which, in my opinion is much better than, "Ima cut your stupid [size=2]a[/size] if you do it again."

Thing is, she's so into the validation and the attention that she doesn't care how I feel.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]^ That made me giggle.

This is why I told her "When you flirt with him I feel hurt." Which, in my opinion is much better than, "Ima cut your stupid [size=2]a[/size] if you do it again."

Thing is, she's so into the validation and the attention that she doesn't care how I feel.[/QUOTE]

so i see, this is a toughy... Ill try and read it over, and see what i think, i tend to skim anything longer than a paragraph. my eyes hurt if i stare at the screen trying to read for too long.


Edit: perhaps talk to this guy?

[QUOTE=Guns'n'Zeppelin023]imsrry. i love you babe[/QUOTE]
/cracks knuckles
/loads guns
/puts scope in focus
/sharpens knives
/grabs the piano wire
/grabs the trashbags
/grabs the donuts(police bribe)
/grabs ridiculous amount of cash(backup for the donuts)

:evil:

I'm goin' huntin'.

[QUOTE=Tillius]The way I see it, you had every right to be angry. If she's flirting with your crush, then by all means, be pissed about it. Flirting with the guy is one thing, but after you went up to her and specifically told her that it was making you feel hurt that she was flirting with YOUR crush, then she should have stopped right there, but she didn't. So, if anybody was going to get mad at anybody, it was you who had the right. If she can't handle the fact that you got angry over something that you have every right to get angry about, then that is her problem, and she, in my own personal thoughts, can get the fuc[size=2]k[/size] over it.

-Thoughts from Tillius

[/QUOTE]

I knew when she took so long to respond to my last statement that I got her where it hurts. But I don't know if it was *too* harsh.

You know this situation, Mitch. He's not really "my property", he's just my crush. But she's supposed to be my friend. And I would NEVER do anything like that to her.

But, what I said really got to her.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]I knew when she took so long to respond to my last statement that I got her where it hurts. But I don't know if it was *too* harsh.

You know this situation, Mitch. He's not really "my property", he's just my crush. But she's supposed to be my friend. And I would NEVER do anything like that to her.

But, what I said really got to her.[/QUOTE]
No, he isn't your property. But like you said, she's your friend. Last year, I liked a girl so much. My friend began to like her too, almost as much as I did, but wouldn't do ANYTHING about it, because he's my best friend and would never do something like that to me. He didn't go for it until I told him I liked Sarah. Friends can't do that to friends. If they do, well, apparently their not much of a friend.

She deserved to hear whatever you said to her.

[QUOTE=Tillius]/cracks knuckles
/loads guns
/puts scope in focus
/sharpens knives
/grabs the piano wire
/grabs the trashbags
/grabs the donuts(police bribe)
/grabs ridiculous amount of cash(backup for the donuts)


:evil:

I'm goin' huntin'.[/QUOTE]

I was trying to think of something clever to say. And i read the "I'm going huntin" part, and looked at your avatar, and fell out of my chair laughing.

[QUOTE=Tillius]No, he isn't your property. But like you said, she's your friend. Last year, I liked a girl so much. My friend began to like her too, almost as much as I did, but wouldn't do ANYTHING about it, because he's my best friend and would never do something like that to me. He didn't go for it until I told him I liked Sarah. Friends can't do that to friends. If they do, well, apparently their not much of a friend.[/QUOTE]

Me and my friend actually used to "team up" haha
we've recently stopped talking. eh

[QUOTE=telemore]You said it in your first few lines, she's insecure. I think her manic flirt comes from that fact. She's dying for attention and is willing to get it from anyone, and probably might possibly have a habit of making it seem like some being polite and maybe flirting along with her (being nice) as them being attracted to her, then the story gets retold and exaggerated, yadda yadda yadda.


What can you do? I'm not sure, but I can think of two possible solutions, both of them suck. 1. You can ignore it, passing it off as "something she does"

or

2. You can cut her off, and not associate with her if it bothers you that much.



I dunno, I'm pretty tired, and after awhile, reading things become a big mess in my head, so I hope I read your post correctly, and having read it correctly, answered what help you were looking for. I dunno.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure that I won't need to cut her off...she'll cut me off, after my comment. And I wonder if that is really all that big a deal. She gave me lots of support last year when I truly needed it, but I've done the same for her with her revolving door of guys that just want a booty call with her. Whenever that happens I see it (she doesn't) and I make sure I'm there for her when the inevitable happens. But, I mean, who needs friends like her?

It's hard for me to understand...the flirting part...because I just don't do it.

[QUOTE=Guns'n'Zeppelin023]I was trying to think of something clever to say. And i read the "I'm going huntin" part, and looked at your avatar, and fell out of my chair laughing.



Me and my friend actually used to "team up" haha
we've recently stopped talking. eh[/QUOTE]
So this is funny now? Funny?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:evil:

[QUOTE=Guns'n'Zeppelin023]so i see, this is a toughy... Ill try and read it over, and see what i think, i tend to skim anything longer than a paragraph. my eyes hurt if i stare at the screen trying to read for too long.


Edit: perhaps talk to this guy?[/QUOTE]

He's not the problem, she is. I mean, she gets downright skanky with the flirting. He throw a remark back at her that doesn't mean anything. I can't talk to him about it.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]I'm pretty sure that I won't need to cut her off...she'll cut me off, after my comment. And I wonder if that is really all that big a deal. She gave me lots of support last year when I truly needed it, but I've done the same for her with her revolving door of guys that just want a booty call with her. Whenever that happens I see it (she doesn't) and I make sure I'm there for her when the inevitable happens. But, I mean, who needs friends like her?

It's hard for me to understand...the flirting part...because I just don't do it.[/QUOTE]
Yea. You don't need friends like that. They're just a headache. And headaches suck.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]He's not the problem, she is. I mean, she gets downright skanky with the flirting. He throw a remark back at her that doesn't mean anything. I can't talk to him about it.[/QUOTE]

Oh, well, then...I dunno, But have you talked to your friend about this flirting, and other such problems, not from your point of view, but how it is/will afftect/ing her relationships?

Edit: 5 pages in one day. the last one died before 200, so. if we keep thi rate up... we have like 40 days with L&R 3.0
but of course, we won't and well slowly settle back down.

[QUOTE=Tillius]
And, Nick, we've established you're going to go crazy about not going back to your house, but, what, did you just move or something?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I moved last summer, and I've gone depressed or something, I mean, even though I have several friends and I've adjusted quickly, now I want to leave

Tell her she's too fat to be flirting with your crush.


Nick, I honestly don't know how to help you you clown rapist you. :p

[QUOTE=Tillius]Nick, I honestly don't know how to help you you clown rapist you. :p[/QUOTE]

:angry: don't start, I don't want to have to put up with crap right now

[QUOTE=Tillius]Tell her she's too fat to be flirting with your crush.


Nick, I honestly don't know how to help you you clown rapist you. :p[/QUOTE]

:confused: :confused:
You know what never mind, i dont want to know

Anyway, tommorow, I have a problem of my firends to post, but for now,

Good Night emex and L&R 3.0
:wave:

[QUOTE=PinkFloydFan082692]:angry: don't start, I don't want to have to put up with crap right now[/QUOTE]
Well, the way I see it, you have three choices.
1.See about moving back home.
2.Accept the way things are.
3.Kill yourself.

I wouldn't recommend 3, but to each his own.