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KittensInMicrowaves 05-11-2005 12:31 PM

I like Obie Trice, Young Buck, Eminem, Young Bloodz, and Lil Jon.....

they are all pretty good rappers I feel, my brother is obsessed with rap, he could probably respond to this thread better

Ganondorf 05-11-2005 01:22 PM

Kanye West is good, y'all need to check out The College Dorpout if you haven't already.

funk_rock_jazz_drummer 05-11-2005 01:24 PM

tupac. the roots. Dr. Dre. Jay - Z. Xzibit. Nas. Run DmC. Kurupt. Snoop Dogg. Nate Dogg. Mos Def. Dizzee Raskal.

are my personal favorites.

I hate his ego. I hate his image. And i hate what he stands for. But i gotta give it to him: eminem is the best lyricist rap has and will probably ever see.

Illmatic 05-11-2005 01:28 PM

[QUOTE=funk_rock_jazz_drummer]eminem is the best lyricist rap has and will probably ever see.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to assume this is a joke.

ATM 05-11-2005 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]Am I still going to be helping with the full FG later on, or have you and Illmatic got it covered?[/QUOTE]

I just went ahead and threw it together, but if you have anything to add, feel free to add it here, or get at me on MSN and I will edit it in.

3rdplanet 05-11-2005 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Don't think this was answered, so;

[url=http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09NIL4IM29RRH06CKHQS5YJONO]A Tribe Called Quest - Phony Rappers[/url]

[url=http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NOLJNI4NE8WZ2AG9LIBHIEG9J]A Tribe Called Quest - The Jam[/url]

[url=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2GX83AEM0ERZH209G272N6C9R5]A Tribe Called Quest - 1nce Again[/url]

Not necessarily their best tracks, since I don't have what seems to be considered their best album.[/QUOTE]

Ah thank you.

I have listened to them now, not quite doing it for me.

killswitchtony 05-11-2005 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I'm going to assume this is a joke.[/QUOTE]
i'm gonna' hope its a joke

i2 enegade 05-11-2005 02:46 PM

[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CYM7YK5MD9QQ3MRRXN6Y8DGIA]Excursions[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NP8Q3AUR7WA83G08IC291I5XQ]Scenario[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2LUZFJDK0HKXI2NAIZU1PB90BX]What[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=33NQCO5FULSZF0AO2VW3G9YXJ4]Buggin' Out[/URL]
[URL=http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MUBT78WW658K2TM0OKH931P35]Steve Biko(Stir it up)[/URL]

Some more tracks by A Tribe Called Quest.The first four tracks are off The Low End Theory, which has to be one of the greatest records put out. The last one is my favorite song off of Midnight Marauders.

ATM 05-11-2005 03:06 PM

Demigodz - The Godz Must Be Crazy

[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D5BMO5E2IWCS1QPT4G0RLE5AK[/url]

Aesop Rock - Oxygen

[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LA64R5HPJ6T50VOL5IC6NCGHY[/url]

Cunninlynguists - 616 Rewind

[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39TNEAXDYLG5L3KJE6YSNMUXC3[/url]

Broken Arrow 05-11-2005 03:22 PM

616 Rewind was my favourite out of the 3.

Thanks again.

Kosta 05-11-2005 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Demigodz - The Godz Must Be Crazy

[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D5BMO5E2IWCS1QPT4G0RLE5AK[/url]

Aesop Rock - Oxygen

[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LA64R5HPJ6T50VOL5IC6NCGHY[/url]

Cunninlynguists - 616 Rewind

[url]http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=39TNEAXDYLG5L3KJE6YSNMUXC3[/url][/QUOTE]


Out of those, I never liked Aesop. He annoys me to death. He was good on the Lif song, though.

Anyway, The Demigodz probably has/had some of the best punchline rappers, ever. Louis Logic is a flawless rapper. Apathy sounds like the biggest ******* in hip-hop (in a good way) and Celph is the most hardcore yet funny rapper of them all.

616 Rewind I love, too. Tonedeff started the song amazingly.

RockRevival 05-11-2005 03:26 PM

N.W.A rules.

Public Enemy and Run DMC are pretty good.

Illmatic 05-11-2005 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]Out of those, I never liked Aesop. He annoys me to death.[/QUOTE]

My respect for you++

I'll upload some stuff from Illmatic later tonight.

BludgeonySteve 05-11-2005 04:58 PM

Some rap is good. None of the generic, melody-less crap on MTV, but the good stuff.

Kosta 05-11-2005 05:33 PM

[QUOTE=funk_rock_jazz_drummer]eminem is the best lyricist rap has and will probably ever see.[/QUOTE]


Technically, he's not bad at all. He has a good breath control, stable flow and witty punchlines. But overal, he is terrible rapper. Greatest lyricist? Come on. You obviously haven't heard the greatness that is Ras Kass.

Nature Of The Threat

Download that song, and honestly try to tell me that Eminem comes even remotely close to this.

Tash from Tha Alkaholiks is still the best overal rapper to me, though.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]My respect for you++[/QUOTE]


Thank God I'm not alone.

The only time I ever liked him was on the Mr Lif song I posted. And he only did the chorus, anyway.

Iai 05-11-2005 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]Technically, he's not bad at all. He has a good breath control, stable flow and witty punchlines. But overal, he is terrible rapper. Greatest lyricist? Come on. You obviously haven't heard the greatness that is Ras Kass.[/QUOTE]
He talks great lyrics, and he mentions Ras Kass. Now [I]there's[/I] the sing of a man who knows his sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t.

Kosta 05-11-2005 05:46 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]He talks great lyrics, and he mentions Ras Kass. Now [I]there's[/I] the sing of a man who knows his sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t.[/QUOTE]

You, sir, are awesome for liking Ras Kass. I was the biggest Ras Kass groupy ever when I was 14 (haha, 2 years ago). I started listening again to him recently. I can't believe how flawless he is. Instead of sacrificing his lyrics for a good flow, he just improved his flow and delivery. And now, he's [i]the[/i] best at what he does.

Razzy and Tash should record a song together some time.

Anyway. Someone should post Nature Of The Threat, Interview With A Vampire, or Van Gogh by Ras Kass.

I think I will tomorow. It's late here.

ATM 05-11-2005 06:24 PM

I forgot all about Rass Kass. I used to really dig him.

Tash is great, as well. I always look forward to his verses in Alkaholiks songs.

Bartender 05-11-2005 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]Technically, he's not bad at all. He has a good breath control, stable flow and witty punchlines. But overal, he is terrible rapper. [/QUOTE]

How does that work?

Kosta 05-11-2005 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]I forgot all about Rass Kass. I used to really dig him.

Tash is great, as well. I always look forward to his verses in Alkaholiks songs.[/QUOTE]


It's my favorite group. Coast 2 Coast is the best rap album I ever heard. Too bad Tash wasn't on "Hit And Run". It's hilarious how J-Ro's considered the star of Tha Alkaholiks, although the true lyrical genius was Tash. J-Ro's just decent.

Too bad they broke up.

[QUOTE=Bartender]How does that work?[/QUOTE]


****ty voice, dumb lyrics, boring and overused subject matter.

ATM 05-11-2005 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]It's my favorite group. Coast 2 Coast is the best rap album I ever heard. Too bad Tash wasn't on "Hit And Run". It's hilarious how J-Ro's considered the star of Tha Alkaholiks, although the true lyrical genius was Tash. J-Ro's just decent.

Too bad they broke up.




****ty voice, dumb lyrics, boring and overused subject matter.[/QUOTE]

Another good rapper is Defari. Heard of him?

Kosta 05-11-2005 06:47 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Another good rapper is Defari. Heard of him?[/QUOTE]


I listed him earleir in this topic. Look Into My Eyes is one of my favorite songs. He's cocky, but I like him. His second album was a bit boring, but his first is a west coast underground classic.

Killing Spree is an amazing song as well. Hell, the whole Likwit Crew is awesome. Likwit has been my favorite crew since I started listening to hip-hop. Phil Da Agony, Tha Alkaholiks, Lootpack, Defari, King Tee. Great collective. Too bad Xzibit went pop after his second album, though. He was a great addition to the crew.

ATM 05-11-2005 06:49 PM

Xzibit used to be good, but he definantly went pop.

I've got the Lootpack cd laying around my room somewhere.

Kosta 05-11-2005 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Xzibit used to be good, but he definantly went pop.

I've got the Lootpack cd laying around my room somewhere.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, it's like Xzibit rapped about his future self when he recorded "Paparazzi". Great song, though.

I'm basically collecting Madlib's work. So I listen to the Lootpack on a weekly basis - used to be daily, but I'm in an emo, post-rock, math-rock, electronica, death metal and noise phase lately - but I have the Lootpack's album, their EP and their rarities collection.

DeusExMachina 05-11-2005 07:16 PM

Rap is awesome. Thank you very much ATM.

ATM 05-11-2005 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]Yeah, it's like Xzibit rapped about his future self when he recorded "Paparazzi". Great song, though.

I'm basically collecting Madlib's work. So I listen to the Lootpack on a weekly basis - used to be daily, but I'm in an emo, post-rock, math-rock, electronica, death metal and noise phase lately - but I have the Lootpack's album, their EP and their rarities collection.[/QUOTE]

I'm into a lot of electronica and death metal lately as well. It's nice to see somebody with diverse tastes like mine :cool:

i am the robots 05-11-2005 07:39 PM

Good thread sir, that's basically a sample of every CD of my brother's that I haven't taken out of my basement, for rap I'm really just a fan of Wu-Tang, Red Man, EPMD, Def Squad, Eminem, D12, Tupac, Notorious BIG, Wu-Tang Solo Careers (Ex. Ghost Face Killah - Iron Man, Gza - Liqued Swords, Rza - Bobby Digital, Method Man - Tikal), K-os, Nas, and a few morew that have slipped my mind :-/.

black\m/metal 05-11-2005 07:47 PM

[/QUOTE]to sum it up: Old rap = good
New rap = no good[QUOTE]

THANK GOD SOMEBODY AGREES! although there is exception to this rule
i stand by it for the most part.

36Dritzlfists 05-11-2005 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=Ganondorf]Kanye West is good, y'all need to check out The College Dorpout if you haven't already.[/QUOTE]

Kanye West's College Dropout is a great cd that Everybody can realate to, especially if your a colleeg dropout like myself, Kanye has a great delivery style and has some very intelligent raps.

Zesty Mordant 05-11-2005 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]
Tash from Tha Alkaholiks is still the best overal rapper to me, though.
[/QUOTE]

Man, Tash is indeed great. He has some killer lyrics and probably has one of the most distinctive voices in the whole genre- He actually sounds drunk when rhyming.


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