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metal_milita 11-26-2004 12:08 AM

[QUOTE=AimlessDave]I guess you could say that the very first part of System of a Down's song "Prison Song" is in 1/1. It just goes BAM! And that's the whole measure.[/QUOTE]

OR, the rested for the beginning 3 beats of the song and started on the 4th beat. OR they had a pickup. Theres no such measure as 1/1. I've never heard the song though, so i can't speak for sure.

Kwash2 11-26-2004 12:19 AM

[QUOTE=Anarchy for the UK]a lot of rush's stuff has weird time signatures. i think la villa strangiato has something like 3/5[/QUOTE]
We've been over this.

Although, I have been thinking, can't it be technically feasible for there to be a number that isnt a multiple of 4 as the bottom number?

bassman9985 11-26-2004 12:27 AM

[QUOTE=HaVIC5]..you're right, 5/8 and 7/8 does make it a little easier to think in.[/QUOTE]
I always try to break a complex rhythm in two.

Most rock, metal, and fusion lines are pretty simple to split into a few odd parts, as compared to taking on the whole mess at once.

Davidian85 11-26-2004 12:56 AM

heh heh, i reckon Slipknots Everything Ends, that chorus is pretty ****ed up lol

Dance of Maya 12-01-2004 04:03 PM

wow, i'm somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned 'electric dreams, electric sighs' from jm's 'electric dreams' lp. 23/8, and freakin' hard to play.

by the way, i have seen sheet music in 3/5. it's indian notation, and can be worked out to a 2.4 beat measure over a song played in 4, which is nearly typical of asian music. Normally in indian music, however, the time signature switches every 2 measures (see guardian angels, 5/4 *2, 3/4 *2), so 3/5 is just jazz for them.

ddeadheadd 12-01-2004 06:13 PM

yes and phish use some pretty wacked time signatures.

disasterpiece_012345678_515 12-01-2004 06:32 PM

the bass on the soft part on mudvayne's severed....I had to listen to the song about 20 times in a row to get it right

ToRidTheDisease 12-01-2004 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=disasterpiece_012345678_515]the bass on the soft part on mudvayne's severed....I had to listen to the song about 20 times in a row to get it right[/QUOTE]
Good song.

Zach De La Ro 12-01-2004 06:38 PM

there was this one genesis song with an insane time signature (sorry, forgot the name) and in some interview they said they loved seeing people dance to it, look confused for a second, and start dancing again...

wow

Deadman390 12-01-2004 06:41 PM

yeah def. tool
 
i think that tool would take that b/c they switch time sig. like i eat food (fast and often) so tool has my vote

bassi3 12-01-2004 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=Kwash2]We've been over this.

Although, I have been thinking, can't it be technically feasible for there to be a number that isnt a multiple of 4 as the bottom number?[/QUOTE]

I think there is... for example... If you want to write down a 3/4 in triplets, you can make it a 9/8 or a 9/9, after all, a 3/4 in triplets means the measure is divided in 9 pieces... But that's just my weird brain thinking....

ShiningFate 12-01-2004 07:07 PM

odd, but seems no one's mentioned Mudvayne. not like i'm a hardcore fan (or even know what time sig's they normally play) or anything, but it used to seem if friends talked about weird sig's, someone would bring them up. i think i vaguely remember something about a 9/16, but could be way off.

ShiningFate 12-01-2004 07:09 PM

err... stand corrected, someone did bring them up. disregard my previous comment, and this one, too.

Dance of Maya 12-01-2004 07:46 PM

you should have signed out: with disregards, ShiningFate. lol

Ironically, many people are ignorant to the fact that a song could be plain 4/4, and still sound just as rhythmically complicated as something in 13/8. See 'Peace One'. I love that bass line.

Duman 04-18-2006 07:28 AM

I think Dream Theater's Dance Of Eternity wins.

here comes the bird flu 06-03-2006 10:07 PM

The Dillinger Escape Plan.

Tyler 06-03-2006 10:08 PM

Well, I guess since it's already bumped (by spammers mind you), I'll post.

I dont feel dissonant time signatures are worth mentioning if they're unlistenable.

here comes the bird flu 06-03-2006 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Well, I guess since it's already bumped (by spammers mind you), I'll post.

I dont feel dissonant time signatures are worth mentioning if they're unlistenable.[/QUOTE]

Are you reffering to my post?

Tyler 06-03-2006 10:12 PM

Not at all, I just meant in general.

My primary example is Meshuggah. Most of their polyrhythms dont sound good.

Talc 06-03-2006 10:15 PM

"Portraits of Tracy" by Jaco P. is just like a song hey wrote while jaming and there is not really time signature. But to tab it out, the Guitar Pro file I have jund between different time signature in ajacent measure. It goes from 15/8 to 6/8 in one measure to 17/8 in the next or crazy things like that.

The other band I can think of is Meshuggah.

ghettoeddo 06-03-2006 10:52 PM

obviously dream theater has many songs where they constantly keep the /8 or /16 the same while shifting the top from 5-6-7-9.
octavarium has sections where it's in 3/16 etc.

easiest way to play (if there is one) polyrhythms is just to ignore the fact that the time signature is changing. unless you're a drummer. just get it in your ear as to how it goes and play.

Duncster 06-03-2006 11:38 PM

First of all, The Ocean is in 15/8

Noones mentioned[B] Gates of Delirium [/B]by Yes? Not much can top that.
This encouraged me to count out some tool songs...
Tool - Undertow 11/8 at end.. in the middle though 13/8 + 15/8 for about a minute or so.
Tool - The part in Jambi at 3:44. Whaa???
Same with the guitar at the end of Rosetta Stoned. Danny n Justin don't even try to follow it. :p
Primus - 11 11/8

King_Of_Terrors 06-03-2006 11:47 PM

My band's songs are mainly in 4/4, but there are a fair share in 3/4, 6/4, and there are alot of parts in our songs that have 7/4 and 9/8... 7/4 is used alot, not sure how though...:lol:

But Dream Theater's Dance Of Eternity has alot.

Drunken Viking 06-03-2006 11:48 PM

I can't even tell when a song is in a different time signature. I just ask my brother if it sounds weird. So basically any Tool song I listen to I ask him. :lol:

King_Of_Terrors 06-03-2006 11:50 PM

[SIZE=2]Just count quarter notes. one, two, three, four, and just keep counting until a new measure starts. Somehow, you just KNOW when the new measure comes. It just comes naturally for me.[/SIZE]

Killtacular 06-03-2006 11:54 PM

I saw a transcription of a Zappa song in 34/16.

teh weird

King_Of_Terrors 06-04-2006 12:04 AM

17/8

Duncster 06-04-2006 12:41 AM

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors][SIZE=2]Just count quarter notes. one, two, three, four, and just keep counting until a new measure starts. Somehow, you just KNOW when the new measure comes. It just comes naturally for me.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
It's the counting that people don't get at first.

MarkTremonti 06-04-2006 12:45 AM

Tool-Right in Two 11/4

Killtacular 06-04-2006 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors]17/8[/QUOTE]
It's a time signature, not a fraction.


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