^not to be rude or anything, but if one can do something as artful as making music, why can't one design the sleeve too? or, plan to have a friend do it. i mean, it's a two way thing. the band gets a cool sleeve, the designer gets recognition, both sides happy. a step forward for both! maybe someone has a better idea.

umm, why not follow up with the essential part of all now... copyrights and the like? i mean, being a musician u have to know ur rights and what to do with it. u know, like the one i usually see in the sleeve, with funny name like "board stiff music", "blood onion music"... what are they for?

This is a brilliant thread, thanks. :thumb:

I say again: something on doing live shows/gigs, maybe?

[QUOTE=XemoXmoshXpitX]I say again: something on doing live shows/gigs, maybe?[/QUOTE]
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What aspects of gigging in particular?

how about stuff like choosing your setlist and renting gear. What to do if the crowd isnt into you, what to do when you mess up, how to keep the gig alive etc

[QUOTE=Licketysplit]how about stuff like choosing your setlist and renting gear. What to do if the crowd isnt into you, what to do when you mess up, how to keep the gig alive etc[/QUOTE]
And maybe some tips on how to make a performance interesting?

Like um. Can't really explain what I mean.

What to do and what not to do? How to get the crowd into it? How to look alive on stage? How to create energy? How to make the show memorable? etc...

[QUOTE=XemoXmoshXpitX]What to do and what not to do? How to get the crowd into it? How to look alive on stage? How to create energy? How to make the show memorable? etc...[/QUOTE]
He put it into much better words than I ever could.

dam straight

[QUOTE=XemoXmoshXpitX]What to do and what not to do? How to get the crowd into it? How to look alive on stage? How to create energy? How to make the show memorable? etc...[/QUOTE]

Ok I'll go into it, Have I addressed Selling music online on mp3 sites yet? If I haven't I can't believe it, and I shall do that too, I feel its a very important issue when it comes to unsigned bands.

who cares, just give a lesson on wut moshpit said:thumb:

[now... all of that is super useful. if only i had a freakin' band to join.]

no, i don't believe you did the selling mp3 thing.

dude this is gonna be so helpful when my band starts gigging.

my friends band got ripped, £400 gb in the best studio in the UK (apparently) and they came out with half an album without mixing and no profit. a loss of around £300 altogether. and there only 15 lol

why didn't they just spend 100 bucks on a good sound card, and hook it up to one of yallz computer?

^^ thats what we're doing for our first e.p. our guitarist has a bit of a recording studio set up in his room (not much, just some inputs into his computer and a audio package), but its still does the job. the only thing we need are some drum mics.

[QUOTE=The Spliggity Splot]why didn't they just spend 100 bucks on a good sound card, and hook it up to one of yallz computer?[/QUOTE]

Because the sound engineer at the studio knows what he is doing better, he has more experience and equipment to call upon, he knows whether its best to punch in or record straight, he knows how much reverb will get you the CD sound you want e.t.c.

If you know about music tech and have a proper set up, mixer, multitrack, cassete recorder for mixdown, reverb unit e.t.c., then you can probably go for it, but your really cutting off your opertunities by only hooking up to a computer.

Either way though, I can recommend books that focus on specificly the basics of recording, i.e how far should the mic be, how should I record bass, what about pops on the mic? e.t.c.

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my friends band got ripped, £400 gb in the best studio in the UK (apparently) and they came out with half an album without mixing and no profit. a loss of around £300 altogether. and there only 15 lol[/QUOTE]

That is a hell of a lot to pay for an album, we're having difficulty deciding how to record our e.p. but at the moment we may be looking to use a studio, for the 5 tracks it's going to set us back £70-90, so for a 12 track album we'd be looking at maybe £200.

If it was their first album, it's probably best just seeking out another studio (if you cannot take legal action) and getting a cheaper deal, I suppose from the event they have learned how sweet the music industry is.

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no, i don't believe you did the selling mp3 thing.[/QUOTE]

Right I'll do the next issue on more gig stuff, and that debate.

Excellent!

I'm gonna contribute my two cents worth is no one minds...
For gigging the important thing is to keep going, no one knows you screwed up unless you say so. Also if equipment breaks down or somthing like that, try to make it into a joke or something cool. At my bands most recent gig our guitarist broke a string. Normally this would be a disaster and would totally ruin the vibe, but instead our guitarist proceeded to rip the string the rest of the way off with his teeth. The crowd went wild.
If you have good energy and you keep going through everything then theres not much bad that can happen.

Cool, that's probably gonna come in useful someday. Thanks.

Just read the thread. Very, very nice. Keep 'em coming! :thumb:

don't mean to be rude but, where's the threadstarter? hasn't been here for days... i hope it's b'cos something great is going for his band!

[QUOTE=doggonit]don't mean to be rude but, where's the threadstarter? hasn't been here for days... i hope it's b'cos something great is going for his band![/QUOTE]

Nah, I'm just ill, possible glandular fever, however, with any luck, it will just be something short term, we have a gig on the 8th so with any luck my throat will have cleared up by then.

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]Nah, I'm just ill, possible glandular fever, however, with any luck, it will just be something short term, we have a gig on the 8th so with any luck my throat will have cleared up by then.[/QUOTE]
Aww. Poor Mr. K. Hope it clears up in time.

get well soon dude. u know we love u, haha! btw, u do only vocals? play any instruments?

You can find out by reading his extensive biography. I've posted the whole thing here for you:

Biography:
I drum

:p lol - yeah, we love ya! Hope you're feelin better. :thumb:

Great stuff buddy, a really good read.

New Article tommorrow, it's not glandular fever, just turns out to be a nasty cold, a learning experience though, because I've never had one before.

If anyone wants, I'll briefly touch upon copyright, however, I won't tell you how to do it, I'll explain it's complexities (i.e. the difference in country laws, Russia has practicly no copyright protection)

EDIT: I do vocals and drums, though not at the same time. I'm also learning to use DJ decks, at which point my band will end and I will put "Mixmaster" before my name and team up with a blonde german woman called, Gretal and we will work the dance scene.

mixmaster kocaine, nice :cool: