hi Harmonisation, thanks for your reply :)
and what i see is most of this forum's member is male :( but i really need help from you all, plz

The band Arch Enemy has a female growler on their newest album I think.

Thats it!!! Arch Enemy is the band I was on about!! Thanx alot Deftone :thumb:

Okay, got my setup pretty well. Here's some of my singing. (Don't listen to any of the other songs!)

[url]http://fileserv1.soundclick.com/fastg6\HiF/thedirtyoranjbunny+waitaway.mp3[/url]

Tried to hide behind effects as much as I could, what do you think? Any advice? It's all improv, because I'm lazy. So the lyrics are simple and make no sense.

Your not a bad singer at all. I can tell your didn't enjoy listening to your self recorded, because of the FX, but if you listen to yourself more often you get over it. keep up the good work. You need to work on having a wider range of notes in your medody.

Hehe. Yes, that was the failing of me improvising the melody. I'm lazy :(

I can record myself clean, I just thought that the ambient effects enhanced that song.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/standsformusic.htm[/url]

here's an expanded version with some guitar.

Hey, i'm not actually singing in a band, i play drums...hence the name, but james hetfield has a really wierd voice...i don't know what it is he does, but if you listen to S&M, then the way he's singing is just...well, wierd...it's not low, and it's not high, but then again...it's not really in the middle either...i'm probably making myself look like a twat here, but what is it he does to make his voice sound so, big and strong (i suppose that would be the only way to put it) i'm not a singer, but i'd really like to have a go at being able to sing like that.

if i've made a complete mess of myself here, please put me right...

I have a song recorded where I'm singing (and playing the other instruments, but that's not the point) [url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/shagramusic.htm[/url]
the song is called indirection (click on the version that says (w/vox))

^^^dude, that singing was alright, but the music sucked....your drummer was HORRIBLE......

it's just the way that it was compiled - did it one track at a time without metronomes. It's just a draft anyhow. the guy can pull out some wicked chops, and i assure you he's really ****in good

I owul dlove to learn how yo sing death metal vocals its not shouting though its like a really heavy exhail of air lol listen to some of the opeth songs like masters apprentices youll see what i mean

Mikael is one amazing growler. check out the screaming 101 part 2 thread.

So I just finished reading this entire thread. My problem I have yet to solve is, I can sing a lot louder in a high wimpy voice (almost in falsetto) than I can singing lower, the stuff I sing lower is how i tend to sing when i sing quietly. Id prefer to go the lower root, but from PA experience, its not quite loud enough. What should I do? I push my voice as hard as I can and i dont get any louder.

Is it true that continually singing high up in your chest voice leads to getting a nice warm husky voice?

i can play guitar and i can sing (pretty well) but i just can't put the two together. My timing just gets thrown off and it seems just impossible to do it, any tips. thankz

eski - just try pumping up the mic levels. try warming up your voice before singing, and make sure you're projecting to your fullest potential.

I play guitar and I'd love to learn how to sing. I was wondering if asthma limits your abilty to sing. I have it and I get out of breath pretty quickly. Also, I can't sound exactly like any singer I listen to. I can harmonize with whatever I'm listening to in octaves or whatever I may be doing but I'm always either too high or too low to duplicate whatever I'm listening to. The closest I come to duplicating is the section right before the chorus in a song called Praise by Sevendust. I can nail that pretty well but that's honestly about it.

Some guys I think I have great voices are Chris Cornell, Robert Plant, Steve Perry, Layne Staley, and Lajon Witherspoon. I'd love to sing like them but I'm pretty horrible right now.

Help!!
I can match pitch but my voice is horrible! How do I fix this!?

I have a few questions about singing notes.

Ok let's say I'm playing a song in the Key of D. Now would I have to sing all Ds? Or just slant my voice a certain way to get into the key of D.

Are there ways to slant your voice to enter certain keys?

Also, how do I know for sure what notes I'm singing. I can't sing something and say "That was an F#". I don't really have perfect pitch so how do you guys go about knowing what your range is and what notes your singing?

I've got a big problem. My throat is always always covered with phlegm. This prevents me from singing high. Well high for me at least. I've got a relatively low speaking voice but when I try to sing, the phlegm in my throat contstantly prevents me from singing high. It'll either make my voice crack or just make no sound come out of throat. Is there anyway to get rid of this? I'm not talking about singing high like Geddy Lee of Rush or Coheed and Cambria but like a lot of songs by Thrice. I can sing some of them but I really can't when he sings high. Please help!

[quote]Are there ways to slant your voice to enter certain keys?[/quote] no. you just have to make sure you are singing all of the right notes that are in the key.
[quote]how do you guys go about knowing what your range is and what notes your singing?[/quote] to see what your range is, you can just check your highest and lowest notes on a keyboard/guitar/whatever. To see what notes you're singing, you have to know what notes the background music is playing. If you're singing a capella, you just have to have relative pitch. From what you're saying, it seems that you don't know much about music. Read up, learn how to read sheet music, and keep learning. good luck.

deftone - you've got to go into falsetto. Other than that, clear your throat often and drink water. I guess you have to live with your voice. If you have a low voice, then there's basically no way to sound like the guy from Thrice (I'm pretty sure he's a tenor). Your strong range is probably a lot lower than that.

No I don't think I can even go falsetto because my throat prevents me from doing it. It's really frustrating. Thanks for the help though. I guess maybe Thrice songs are out of my range.

Maybe go to a doctor or a vocal specialist. There might be a way to get rid of your problem. Good luck

Alright, thanks a lot for the help :).

oh man, this is so cool...a bunch of guys talking about singing...and actually knowing what they are talking about...being a choir bumb, i find this impossibly cool. ANYWAY, i'd like to ask you all, is it possible to scream without damaging your voice? If there's a way, i'd take it...i can belt, i can yell on pitch, but cannot for the life of me scream on pitch...any help? or has this already been answered? a way to scream while maintaning a chamber-choir-quality voice, much like switching between the 'clean' and 'distorted' channels on you amplifier? or is that impossible?

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[QUOTE=Burningwater]Help!!
I can match pitch but my voice is horrible! How do I fix this!?[/QUOTE]

erm...i know a bit about singing myself...pitch is only one of four parts of quality sining. The other three are Tone, Vowels, Breathing. Remember, breathe through the area UNDER your ribs...through your gut...more air that way. Also, take care not to take loud, noisy breaths...

as to tone...open your mouth...don't sing through your nose like Kurt Cobain did in some parts of You Know You're Right (1st verse, 'things have never been so swell, etc.)...it sounds kind of...well...nasal. You know that muscle you stretch when you yawn? try to stretch that muscle when you open your mouth to sing...imagine a snake swollowing an egg. and keep the tounge back!

and alas, VOWELS! the worst case of bad-vowels i have ever heard is Wierd Al, who has an otherwise great voice. Don't sing with whatever accent you have (american is worst)...the lines "so close, no matter how far/ couldn't be much more from the heart" should sound more like "So close, no mattuh how fawr/ couldn't be much mowah from the heawrt" but don't leave OUT the 'R's...just soften them. English and Irish/Scottish singers will have an easier time with this. The "a"s should be softer, more like "aw"s...you know what i mean? just imitate the Beatles for good vowels if you're totally lost...good vocals all around, actually ("Yesterday" is prime example of this). The S&M album by Metallica also has excellant vocals, particularly "Outlaw Torn" and "Sad but True".

hope this helped somehow....

sorry, everyone probably knew everything i wrote here...just thought i'd throw in my own bit of wisdom, whatever it be worth.

[QUOTE=thenextgarcia]i can play guitar and i can sing (pretty well) but i just can't put the two together. My timing just gets thrown off and it seems just impossible to do it, any tips. thankz[/QUOTE]

I've got the same problem. the two things apart are pretty descent but when i combine them, one always gets kinda crappy. especially with difficult songs. Help on this one?

Practice, that's the only way you can achieve singing and playing simultaneously. There aren't too many tricks to doing this. Just start out playing and singing the song at half speed. As you keep progressing in guitar, singing over it will become easier as well.

start by playing chords with 8th notes while singing so you can really get good at changing chords at the right time. From there, start making the strumming pattern more complicated until it has a rhythm completely independent of the vocal melody. This should give your playing and your singing more independence

I can't sing, at all.
I have a relatively lower than normal voice(I'm a girl) and I can't seem to go more than a not above my speaking range.
I can scream way above it, and make it sound OK.
I can't sing though.
What should I do?
-And I hate metal. Don't want to be a screamer.