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in case anyone cares :thumb:

First post here, but yea.

Any tips on how to do vocals like Atreyu? Sounds like how I sound if I try to breath in and sing, but not positive.

Here is how I do my 'scream":
Its more of a growl, like how cavemen are portrayed in cartoon, then I just add a lil air behind it and it sounds like a nice deathmetal raspy growl. Doesnt hurt my throat, untill I come home from practicing for 4 hours, then its kinda sore. We have a recording studio in the guitarists' basement, so maybe after our next gig we will record a song or so and stick it on the website. Ill post here if we do...

How do I do hardcore screams like Hopesfall?? I mean that guy screams so much I don't know how he hasn't totally Æ’ucked up his voice. Also, how would you describe the Alexisonfire screams?? Thanks :thumb:

I want to learn how to do the Elvis Costello scream. The kind of loud, shrill, half fearfull half insano-man yell.


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[QUOTE=metaliq]First post here, but yea.

Any tips on how to do vocals like Atreyu? Sounds like how I sound if I try to breath in and sing, but not positive.

Here is how I do my 'scream":
Its more of a growl, like how cavemen are portrayed in cartoon, then I just add a lil air behind it and it sounds like a nice deathmetal raspy growl. Doesnt hurt my throat, untill I come home from practicing for 4 hours, then its kinda sore. We have a recording studio in the guitarists' basement, so maybe after our next gig we will record a song or so and stick it on the website. Ill post here if we do...[/QUOTE]


STOP!!! Four hours at a time? Are you insane?! You are going to totally ruin your voice... Please at least coat your throat with honey before and during practise... It sounds like you have a good grasp on how to scream just practise... Just be reasonable, four hours at a time is rediculously excessive, are you just exagerating?

I mean the longest a set can last is an hour and a half... and that is a long set too.

[QUOTE=crponx]How do I do hardcore screams like Hopesfall?? I mean that guy screams so much I don't know how he hasn't totally Æ’ucked up his voice. Also, how would you describe the Alexisonfire screams?? Thanks :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Please everyone; in future instead of asking me "how do I do this type of scream?" Why not post your scream, I will then take time listen to it, critique it and tell you what you seem to be doing wrong and what to change so you can emulate the kind of scream sound you want to get.

Just get an account on [url]www.soundclick.com[/url] and post the scream there.

Sorry to be a prick, but im 99% someone has asked me how to do the Ateryu scream before and I don't want to keep downloading and listening to the same songs to say the same thing over again.

Alexisonfire is the easiest scream to duplicate... he just screams 1 syllable words, I guess its an emocore type of scream; the same technique as the guy from finch or the used just a lot easier to copy. It sounds like every note is very very attacked and forced... but it sounds cool, I'm not sure what kind of technique he uses but I can pretty much emulate it with the technique described on the first page of the thread.

[QUOTE=в?m~]i just have 1 question... i recorded my scream today and it just sounds like raspy whispering. is there a way to give my scream more "body"?[/QUOTE]

considering no one answered, no one really cares but... i figured out it was just the mic i was usuing. i used a real mic and it was fine

I'd post my scream, but it isn't even a scream. I really can't do your technique at all.

[QUOTE=sliver]STOP!!! Four hours at a time? Are you insane?! You are going to totally ruin your voice... Please at least coat your throat with honey before and during practise... It sounds like you have a good grasp on how to scream just practise... Just be reasonable, four hours at a time is rediculously excessive, are you just exagerating?

I mean the longest a set can last is an hour and a half... and that is a long set too.[/QUOTE]

Well, what I ment to say was after a 4 hour long practice with the band. Which includes the guitarist on vocals at points, me doing a lil not screaming, and then the ocassional break where they eat doritos and i drink more water.

Also on the Atreyu thing... I searched this thread and didnt see anything mentioned about them. This was the first thread I read on this forum, so if there was something mentioned about atreyu before this then I didnt see it. Sorry, my bad.

how do I post my scream? how should I save it because the files are always too big?

[QUOTE=metaliq]Well, what I ment to say was after a 4 hour long practice with the band. Which includes the guitarist on vocals at points, me doing a lil not screaming, and then the ocassional break where they eat doritos and i drink more water.

Also on the Atreyu thing... I searched this thread and didnt see anything mentioned about them. This was the first thread I read on this forum, so if there was something mentioned about atreyu before this then I didnt see it. Sorry, my bad.[/QUOTE]

really? I was sure somebody asked me about that... alright I'll give it a listen when I go home. :wave:

[QUOTE=osirisblind]how do I post my scream? how should I save it because the files are always too big?[/QUOTE]

get a program like acid studio pro or something, you can download it off kazaa or mirc.


[QUOTE=italic zero]I'd post my scream, but it isn't even a scream. I really can't do your technique at all.[/QUOTE]

:upset: really? ... its not exactly easy to practise cause you kind of need a house to yourself otherwise people think your nuts :lol:

try doin it one day when nobody is home and you can really let go, otherwise you'll always be holdin back.

I've been working with the method on the first page, and when I try I get this scream thats a little of a loud whisper in sound with some edge behind it. I haven't been practising into a mic, So I assume that with some volume it could be better. Could u advise anything that may help to get a full scream.?

Cheers,

Duffman

[QUOTE=sliver]
:upset: really? ... its not exactly easy to practise cause you kind of need a house to yourself otherwise people think your nuts :lol:

try doin it one day when nobody is home and you can really let go, otherwise you'll always be holdin back.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I haven't tried it in awhile but... it either comes out a whisper with no scream at all or like one of the Ringwraiths, which isn't bad, but not really what I'm looking for. I'll try it again sometime I guess, I really want to be able to do Maynard/Chino screams like you said. I still have a ways to go with singing anyways... a lot on my plate.

i think im starting to get it down
i wrote a part of a song with guitar and vocals and with screaming
i got the scream to come out good a few times
its not easy

but,
im worried im not doing it right, cause after i do it i start to get sort of a muscular pain in my throut, but i get the same from singing for a while, im guessing this is because im not used to using my vocal chords so much. is this kind of pain expected?

well control your screams and keep it even and dont lose your breath between one
and try to sound raspy

Silver- any update/ideas on the Atreyu scream?

[QUOTE=metaliq]Silver- any update/ideas on the Atreyu scream?[/QUOTE]

Sorry I've been away this week studying for midterms.

There are 2 things I never mentioned in my original post in this thread.

Before you scream do 2 things:

1. Tighten your stomach
2. Take a spoon or 2 of honey.

I think someone asked if it was normal to feel some pain... obviously when you scream you are going to experiance some discomfort as long as its not insanely panefull and you can talk afterwords your technique is fine. If you feel you loose your voice for more than a 5 minute period of time stop what you are doing and save up some money for some vocal classes.

Italic: a lot of screaming is about confidence, if you practise enough you can get it... if you are working on your singing you can post that as well, I have taken a few classes jazz, pop and rock and might be able to tell you what you're doin wrong.

The Atreyu Scream

So I listened to a few songs from this band, and honestly his scream changes from song to song... sometimes its great (the line) sometimes its not so good (bleeding hearts).

Regardless, technique is screaming is all the same... alway using your falsetto voice pushed hard. With this particular type of scream you're using your lower register, so you will be using more of your "whisper" voice than your falsetto voice. Practise making your whipser sound aggresive and keep pushing it harder and harder until you get a sound that you like, keep your stomach clenched (hard) at all times. Breathe in with your stomach and fill it with air and let it out while you scream. Practise just saying the words you are going to scream, while you are taking a break from the actual screaming.

Note: I'm not saying you should actualy "whisper", I'm just saying using the same technique your body uses when you whisper... try to scream with that (also its sort of the same technique as when you clear your throat). At first your probably going to experiance some strain and you'll probably be coughing a bit, take some honey and some tea before and after and you should be fine though. Keep in mind the techniques posted on the first page. Go for quality of sound over, actual loudness of scream since you can increase loudness with a mic. Take into account a lot of these screams are done up in a studio with effects like delay, chorus or phaser.

If you want to sound like a studio screamer, get a good mic, a decent PA and hell while you're at it, buy some cool guitar effects pedals. :lol: Honestly they sound really cool through a mic and a PA. I play guitar and I plug my dd-6 boss digital delay (or my chorus pedal) into my mic it sounds really good, plus when you are doing shows you don't have to rely on some drunk idiot sound guy to give you reverb or delay, you have total control of the way you want your voice to sound.

The best way for me to help you is for you to post your scream and I'll try to figure out whats what.

sliver

Ive been using my falsetto voice for a while just singing songs i know, to and from work sorta thing, but i'll try your techniques they sound promising,

thanks dudes

I saw something on the death metal scream, but :smash: here's my explanation of it. Try an "annoyance grunt" (that sound you make whan someone does something to/around you and you want to kill them, but can't!), then make your voice deep and PUSH! (for a while) You need an insanely large amount of air to get any sort of real volume to it, but I've found that once you have the death growl down, it's very hard to do damage to your throat, and it's great diaphram excercise. You might hurt yourself a couple times trying to get it right (and it hurts right away if you're doing it wrong).

Phil Anselmo screams (nowadays anyway, he used to have a really good singing voice too) are pretty much the same thing, but you stay in/above your mid-range. The shrieks are pretty much as explained on the first page, but Phil smokes a lot of dope, so his voice is pretty raspy.

I've heard that Dani Filth 'inward screams', but I can do a pretty good approximation of his voice (no pepsi challenge) with the standard outward shrieking. Is there something wrong with me?

I also read on here earlier that 'you can't extend your vocal range'. Total crap! In the past 3 years I've extended my normal range almost 1 1/2 octaves, just by practicing the highest and lowest notes I can hit until they become comfortable, then moving up / down. Also, my falsetto (screams especially) and death growl basso have extended a lot too (Dani Filth was totally out of the question a year ago).

I guess I shouldn't brag so much... especially since I've got a) no way to prove any of this - i.e. my mic cable's broken, and b) a really bad head cold that makes me crack and SHOOT PHLEGM when I go anywhere above 3 octaves from my lowest note.

Peace out... (but who's buying this bs)
:chug: :wave: :smoke:

alot of these pointers have helped me and see i figured im on the right track but i stopped practicing since i was sick. i use my falsetto voice kinda whisper and then try to push extra out and it sounds ****ty but i think with practice i'll get there...i once heard someone in my school who was having a really ****ty day and then blew up at someone and was so pissed they were screaming at the top of their lungs, and it sounded like bert from the used it was cool..im rambling but uh..*bump*?

I use the same technique as gabey said, and it doesnt hurt my throat at all.

But recently (today, lol) I tried to get the kinda 'scream' (more sorta a shout? not sure) from hatebreed and its pretty simple to nail. Instead of growling, I use the same technique as the growl btw, I kinda yell? Yea, bad description, but you can pull off the raspiness he has in some words pretty easily without hurting your voice. I dunno what the point of this post was...

Edit: Yea, I dont know why im talking about Hatebreed - im not too much a fan of hardcore, but thought ide comment if anyone was interested, but I guess I wasnt very descriptive... **** I need some more sleep...

[QUOTE=gabey667]
I've heard that Dani Filth 'inward screams', but I can do a pretty good approximation of his voice (no pepsi challenge) with the standard outward shrieking. Is there something wrong with me?

I also read on here earlier that 'you can't extend your vocal range'. Total crap! In the past 3 years I've extended my normal range almost 1 1/2 octaves, just by practicing the highest and lowest notes I can hit until they become comfortable, then moving up / down. Also, my falsetto (screams especially) and death growl basso have extended a lot too (Dani Filth was totally out of the question a year ago).
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- inward screaming ruins your voice and makes you cough like a mofo. I've never heard any kind of scream that can't be done with just the normal outward screaming (with a little practise).

- of course when you start out singing you can improve your vocal range, I was never trying to say that... however MOST people don't improve their range by more than 1/2 an octave even with lessons... and after that you are stuck. Its not like your voice is going to keep getting higher and higher all the time :p

and don't worry I believe ya dude, just post a clip whenever.

ps. to anyone who reads this thread and finds it usefull, could you please give it a good rating. Maybe it can get stickied so new members can read it, thanks.

Yeah, great thread silver. :chug:

Just have to get my parents out of the house again...

As far as singing, I know what I have to do, thanks for the offer, but I'm taking lessons and it's just the sheer number of songs I have to learn right now, plus working on my technique. Singing Mozart's Reqiuem tenor when you're a baritone who just learned it, and isn't even a great singer = :(

Also, as far as expanding range, if you did gain that much range, which I don't doubt is possible, but many people don't have a large range just because they have never really warmed up.

i know its wrong to use your voice to scream with but i cant get ANY volume unless i use some voice... otherwise its like a dieing cow. i can get a shout thats somewhat like dustin from thrice in a couple songs but i cant get a falsetto scream worth anything. been practice 2 months and nowhere near a falsetto scream like bert mckracken

[QUOTE=italic zero]Yeah, great thread silver. :chug:

Just have to get my parents out of the house again...

As far as singing, I know what I have to do, thanks for the offer, but I'm taking lessons and it's just the sheer number of songs I have to learn right now, plus working on my technique. Singing Mozart's Reqiuem tenor when you're a baritone who just learned it, and isn't even a great singer = :(

Also, as far as expanding range, if you did gain that much range, which I don't doubt is possible, but many people don't have a large range just because they have never really warmed up.[/QUOTE]

Classical is cool, I wanted to take classical vocal at my university but they wouldn't let me in the class because I didn't have enough classical influence in my voice... so I ended up in jazz instead (which is still cool anyway). But before that I took lessons with this guy who specialized in rock and screaming. I am also a baritone... but sometimes I can sing certain tenor notes... I can hit a high B or C if I am doing it for just a syllable, I can sing A for a short period of time, but mostly I stick with G and G# as the upper end of my range.

[QUOTE=chris4aker]i know its wrong to use your voice to scream with but i cant get ANY volume unless i use some voice... otherwise its like a dieing cow. i can get a shout thats somewhat like dustin from thrice in a couple songs but i cant get a falsetto scream worth anything. been practice 2 months and nowhere near a falsetto scream like bert mckracken[/QUOTE]
Screaming isn't wrong.
I do many screams, I do a sort of Dani Filth singing, which is done by tightenening the throat, I can also do a high pitched banshee sorta thing, which is done by tightening the throat, and taking air in. Then there's the deep growly vocals, or cookie monster vocals as some people call them.
Justin Hawkins vocals/screams are hard to do, but then again I'm not really bothered seen as it's mostly black/death metal vocals I do. You could try wearing tight pants to get a high voice. :lol: :smash:

so how do you do the mudvayne scream?
i allways seem to scr3w it up :smash:
sorry if this was asked before

hi guys, girls and all in between.... my band is playin a gig in a few days. could anyone give me help on screaming 7WORDS by Deftones??? i really need help with it, any feed back would be really appreaciated!!!!
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