[QUOTE=gocaps99]no, because then none of the kirk stuff would have existed.[/QUOTE]
Dave's stuff > Kirk's stuff
But back to the point, what do you think we would have missed out on?

I think it would've been cool if dave was still in metallica, but then there wouldn't be such thing as megadeth, and i like megadeth almost as much as i like metallica.

[QUOTE=metal guitar]Dave's stuff > Kirk's stuff
But back to the point, what do you think we would have missed out on?[/QUOTE]

hmm from what i heard a couple of pages back everyone was fighting about how dave only did two songs... compared to how many of kirk's?

everything good off of RTL, MOP, AJFA, Black, Load, and Reload. that's what we would have missed out on

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]I think it would've been cool if dave was still in metallica, but then there wouldn't be such thing as megadeth, and i like megadeth almost as much as i like metallica.[/QUOTE]

Yes True.. I wonder what Metallica would have been like with Mustain in there the whole time???
I think they would have certainly been heavier, and probably more old Skool..

Hears a though: Try and mix Megadeth and Tallica into one song.. Kinda like a Metallideth remix lol

[QUOTE=gocaps99]hmm from what i heard a couple of pages back everyone was fighting about how dave only did two songs... compared to how many of kirk's?

everything good off of RTL, MOP, AJFA, Black, Load, and Reload. that's what we would have missed out on[/QUOTE]
But that's mostly James' material (yes, and some of it is Dave's, I know this so no 'Deth fanboy flames).

[QUOTE=metal guitar]But that's mostly James' material (yes, and some of it is Dave's, I know this so no 'Deth fanboy flames).[/QUOTE]

yes but he wouldn't have as much on the album because dave is not just a lead, kirk is just a lead. he wrote some riffs, yea, but not as much as dave wrote

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]Yes True.. I wonder what Metallica would have been like with Mustain in there the whole time???
I think they would have certainly been heavier, and probably more old Skool..

Hears a though: Try and mix Megadeth and Tallica into one song.. Kinda like a Metallideth remix lol[/QUOTE]


It would probably have been pure thrash all day nonstop. No Fade to black or welcome home songs, just probably Kill em all kind of stuff

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]It would probably have been pure thrash all day nonstop. No Fade to black or welcome home songs, just probably Kill em all kind of stuff[/QUOTE]

yes which would have sucked. fade to black and sanitarium are my two favorite songs along with numbers 3 and 4, Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]It would probably have been pure thrash all day nonstop. No Fade to black or welcome home songs, just probably Kill em all kind of stuff[/QUOTE]

Yes true... But would they have had Bob Rock as the producer if mustain was there i wonder. I know Mustain was a little insane, hense the reason he got the boot, I have a DVD called Dark souls.. It says in there how when he bit a friend of hetfields neck and took out a chunk the band decided it was enough..

I think Mustain unfortunatly would have broken the band up to be honest... As Jaymez said, its either he goes, or we all go!

[QUOTE=gocaps99]hmm from what i heard a couple of pages back everyone was fighting about how dave only did two songs... compared to how many of kirk's?

everything good off of RTL, MOP, AJFA, Black, Load, and Reload. that's what we would have missed out on[/QUOTE]

but you gotta think of the possibilies that maybe kirk's stuff wouldnt have been as good as dave's. All of kill em all is pretty much dave's...and there was some rippin stuff on there. I think a metallica with mustaine would be like a megadeth and a metallica combined...and maybe better than that. I love kirk to death! he kicks major ****ing ***...but I think james and dave could have possibly put together something better if he had stayed in the band atleast until the 90s.

I just reckon that together James and Dave could have written some pretty sweet riffs.

[QUOTE]It says in there how when he bit a friend of hetfields neck and took out a chunk the band decided it was enough..[/QUOTE]
That's bull.

[QUOTE=Sandtrap]but you gotta think of the possibilies that maybe kirk's stuff wouldnt have been as good as dave's. All of kill em all is pretty much dave's...and there was some rippin stuff on there. I think a metallica with mustaine would be like a megadeth and a metallica combined...and maybe better than that. I love kirk to death! he kicks major ****ing ***...but I think james and dave could have possibly put together something better if he had stayed in the band atleast until the 90s.[/QUOTE]

look, i agree with all that stuff. but honeslty, i like the riffs and solos better with kirk. it just sounds like the collaborated more and i really like it

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]It would probably have been pure thrash all day nonstop. No Fade to black or welcome home songs, just probably Kill em all kind of stuff[/QUOTE]

Personaly I think that would have been awsome! I love 'kill em all' over every album. And you say we wouldnt have any RTL. Well mustaine helped write the song ride the lightning and ktulu.
I dont think we would have missed a whole lot because mostly all kirk wrote were the solos, and mustaine can do it just as good as kirk.
in a way I almost think kirk is overrated...love the guy but there are others who can do what he doe.

[QUOTE=metal guitar]I just reckon that together James and Dave could have written some pretty sweet riffs.


That's bull.[/QUOTE]

I really dont think that ever, ever, ever happened. honesty I think thats just a rumor.

(i was reffering to what you were talking about by saying it was bull)

[QUOTE=Sandtrap]Personaly I think that would have been awsome! I love 'kill em all' over every album. And you say we wouldnt have any RTL. Well mustaine helped write the song ride the lightning and ktulu.
I dont think we would have missed a whole lot because mostly all kirk wrote were the solos, and mustaine can do it just as good as kirk.
in a way I almost think kirk is overrated...love the guy but there are others who can do what he doe.[/QUOTE]


Im not saying we wouldn't have had RTL, I'm saying that if dave was still in the band they probably wouldn't have written fade to black, not the Whole RTL album

Didn't Dave also make up the intro riff for Ride the lightning?

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]Im not saying we wouldn't have had RTL, I'm saying that if dave was still in the band they probably wouldn't have written fade to black, not the Whole RTL album

Didn't Dave also make up the intro riff for Ride the lightning?[/QUOTE]

oh ok..

as far as the opening riff I dont know...but if you look in the bocklet for RTL you can see under the song title(ride the lightning) that dave helped write it.

I like Metallica more than Megadeth because they have some variation within each record. Where as Dave wrote Megadeth the other way around. Each album had a different sound, but within those albums there was little variation. I like both bands a whole lot, and Megadeth isn't far behind Metallica on my list, but I prefer the style of Metallica's albums.

A little proof is Kill Em' All. Kill Em' All sounds to me honestly like a Megadeth album with James on vox. There's not much variation within that album, it's just thrash to the max. Something tells me Dave had something to do with that.

[QUOTE]Didn't Dave also make up the intro riff for Ride the lightning?[/QUOTE]
Dave's riffs are used in Ride The Lightning, but I don't know where.

he helped writing rtl and ktulu, but neither solos

[QUOTE=gocaps99]he helped writing rtl and ktulu, but neither solos[/QUOTE]

but I bet he could have written some really good solos for that song...just listen to what he did on Kill em all. He can [B]RIP![/B]

[QUOTE=Sandtrap]but I bet he could have written some really good solos for that song...just listen to what he did on Kill em all. He can [B]RIP![/B][/QUOTE]

yea but apparently he didn't do all of KEA. and yea he does write awesome solos but the thing is kirk's fit

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327462[/url]

If you like kirk Hammett, go vote for him if you havn't already, he is second, we need him in 1st!!!

already voted for him:thumb:

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007][url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327462[/url]

If you like kirk Hammett, go vote for him if you havn't already, he is second, we need him in 1st!!![/QUOTE]
You realise Marty Friedman is more deserving.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]yea but apparently he didn't do all of KEA. and yea he does write awesome solos but the thing is kirk's fit[/QUOTE]

you dont think the solos on the four horseman fit? one of them is dave's!

Yeah, but so can Hammet. Metallica's attitude isn't quite of Mustaine's.

Metallica with Dave:
Kill Em' All
Ride The Lightning (A Little Bit)

Just Dave:
Killing Is My Business.....And Business Is Good
Rust In Peace
Peace Sells
You get the idea

After Dave faded away, MoP happened. An album I think is pure Metallica. I think that's what Metallica was looking to make up until they did, and they did it without Dave involved.

Edit: Sorry, came late.

[QUOTE=metal guitar]You realise Marty Friedman is more deserving.[/QUOTE]

it's more of an opinion. and to be honest stevie ray vaughan is the best guitarist on that list, no question. i voted for hammett because he has more of an impact on my playing

and about the four horsemen, yes i liked it but i liked fade to black

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Yeah, but so can Hammet. Metallica's attitude isn't quite of Mustaine's.

Metallica with Dave:
Kill Em' All
Ride The Lightning (A Little Bit)

Just Dave:
Killing Is My Business.....And Business Is Good
Rust In Peace
Peace Sells
You get the idea

After Dave faded away, MoP happened. An album I think is pure Metallica. I think that's what Metallica was looking to make up until they did, and they did it without Dave involved.


Edit: Sorry, came late.[/QUOTE]
he did some of kea and some of rtl, nothing else. and those ones that say just dave are with megadeth

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Yeah, but so can Hammet. Metallica's attitude isn't quite of Mustaine's.

Metallica with Dave:
Kill Em' All
Ride The Lightning (A Little Bit)

Just Dave:
Killing Is My Business.....And Business Is Good
Rust In Peace
Peace Sells
You get the idea

After Dave faded away, MoP happened. An album I think is pure Metallica. I think that's what Metallica was looking to make up until they did, and they did it without Dave involved.

Edit: Sorry, came late.[/QUOTE]

personaly I would rather listen to KEA and RTL over MOP anyday. mustaine or no mustaine.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]it's more of an opinion. and to be honest stevie ray vaughan is the best guitarist on that list, no question. i voted for hammett because he has more of an impact on my playing

and about the four horsemen, yes i liked it but i liked fade to black[/QUOTE]
I am uploading a Marty song for the "Request YSI" thread. Check it out and then see what you think. Unless you've already heard Marty's solo work.

[QUOTE=Sandtrap]personaly I would rather listen to KEA and RTL over MOP anyday. mustaine or no mustaine.[/QUOTE]

Shame really, since we have no idea what mustaine would have done with MoP.

I didn't ask for your preference, or what album was better. I said MoP was the sound Metallica was looking for, and they found it without Mustaine. So to restate my thesis:

MUSTAINE DID NOT FIT METALLICA

yea that's one thing i forgot to mention

Metallica is the biggest metal band EVER. If they became big without Mustaine, what makes anyone think they'd be better with him?

[QUOTE=gocaps99]yea that's one thing i forgot to mention

Metallica is the biggest metal band EVER. If they became big without Mustaine, what makes anyone think they'd be better with him?[/QUOTE]
While they didn't become multi millionaires while Mustiane was in the band, the "fondations" were set while Mustaine was in the band. They couldn't have done it without Dave.

All in all I doubt metallica would be where they are now if dave was still in the band.

yea they wouldn't be anywhere near where they are if dave stayed. they became really famous because of RTL, MOP, and the Black album

Hell **** Satan Die Rape KIll All ****t asss bitch cun.t

666 satan has come for you!!




Sorry 666th post, but yeah i think they would've been like slayer, not really exploring new grounds and just staying pure thrash.

But around KEA era, and before KEA was released Dave was crucial to the band. He helped get them started big time.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]he did some of kea and some of rtl, nothing else. and those ones that say just dave are with megadeth[/QUOTE]

I know, that's why I listed them. Notice how violent and aggressive the names dave Mustaine are associated with are, and then when he's gone that attitude kinda faded away?

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I know, that's why I listed them. Notice how violent and aggressive the names dave Mustaine are associated with are, and then when he's gone that attitude kinda faded away?[/QUOTE]

what do you mean?

Metallica \m/