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gmoneyguy 01-10-2005 04:00 PM

Blasphemy

jpj 01-10-2005 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=Woodstock]I will admit, that straight up blues music he plays now is kind of boring.



/flees[/QUOTE]
Yea, I find it very boring, and it's like there's no feeling to it. It's jst all very bland.







/flees

slowhand 01-10-2005 04:03 PM

Well, you see... he's old... he doesn't take drugs... he isn't with Cream... But he's still God to me.

Woodstock 01-10-2005 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]Well, you see... he's old... he doesn't take drugs... he isn't with Cream... But he's still God to me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he's a now unoriginal God.


/flees

slowhand 01-10-2005 04:34 PM

I don't think he's unoriginal now, he just doesn't carry the potential to captivate the modern audience.

Woodstock 01-10-2005 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]I don't think he's unoriginal now, he just doesn't carry the potential to captivate the modern audience.[/QUOTE]
Hence unoriginal...

Illmatic 01-10-2005 04:42 PM

That's what I've been trying to say...

slowhand 01-10-2005 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=Woodstock]Hence unoriginal...[/QUOTE]

Not really. To be original often means to be unnacepted by the standard of the masses. Hence, you become and outsider. Today's generation are really a 'hardcore' generation, losing their innocence at a very early age (I've been insulted by 5 year old kids, when I was 5, I wouldn't even know how to insult my sister other than saying "You're ugly" or "Mom doesn't love you")

Now, this generation has grown up with a mellow Clapton, who never went metal, hip hop, or punk. He's just a pop merchant, like Steve Winwood and Paul McCartney, few of the survivors of the 60's music scene. They are not tough enough for the youth (the ones who the music industry depends on) and are overlook as old-timers who sing pop songs for their old folks (something that each generation tries to separate themselves from).

How many people out there do a cover album of Robert Johnson's songs? What about an album with B.B. King? Who appreciate the blues, as they were originally?

See, to call someone "unoriginal" just because of his lost of fame is just wrong. In fact, he is one of the few artists out there that can actually do what he wants without really blemishing his reputation as an artist.

Of course, if you think Clapton is 'unoriginal,' then so be it. Clapton will still be Clapton for me and it's better than a lot of the crap out there.

Jim Spoon 01-10-2005 05:41 PM

To bad Clapton didn't stick to rock

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 01-10-2005 05:50 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]Not really. To be original often means to be unnacepted by the standard of the masses. Hence, you become and outsider. Today's generation are really a 'hardcore' generation, losing their innocence at a very early age (I've been insulted by 5 year old kids, when I was 5, I wouldn't even know how to insult my sister other than saying "You're ugly" or "Mom doesn't love you")

Now, this generation has grown up with a mellow Clapton, who never went metal, hip hop, or punk. He's just a pop merchant, like Steve Winwood and Paul McCartney, few of the survivors of the 60's music scene. They are not tough enough for the youth (the ones who the music industry depends on) and are overlook as old-timers who sing pop songs for their old folks (something that each generation tries to separate themselves from).

How many people out there do a cover album of Robert Johnson's songs? What about an album with B.B. King? Who appreciate the blues, as they were originally?

See, to call someone "unoriginal" just because of his lost of fame is just wrong. In fact, he is one of the few artists out there that can actually do what he wants without really blemishing his reputation as an artist.

Of course, if you think Clapton is 'unoriginal,' then so be it. Clapton will still be Clapton for me and it's better than a lot of the crap out there.[/QUOTE]

:chug: Greatest post Ive seen in this thread in long time :eek:. Rep for you.

*loves blues*

There is not enogh blues talk in MX.

Woodstock 01-10-2005 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]Not really. To be original often means to be unnacepted by the standard of the masses. Hence, you become and outsider. Today's generation are really a 'hardcore' generation, losing their innocence at a very early age (I've been insulted by 5 year old kids, when I was 5, I wouldn't even know how to insult my sister other than saying "You're ugly" or "Mom doesn't love you")

Now, this generation has grown up with a mellow Clapton, who never went metal, hip hop, or punk. He's just a pop merchant, like Steve Winwood and Paul McCartney, few of the survivors of the 60's music scene. They are not tough enough for the youth (the ones who the music industry depends on) and are overlook as old-timers who sing pop songs for their old folks (something that each generation tries to separate themselves from).

How many people out there do a cover album of Robert Johnson's songs? What about an album with B.B. King? Who appreciate the blues, as they were originally?

See, to call someone "unoriginal" just because of his lost of fame is just wrong. In fact, he is one of the few artists out there that can actually do what he wants without really blemishing his reputation as an artist.

Of course, if you think Clapton is 'unoriginal,' then so be it. Clapton will still be Clapton for me and it's better than a lot of the crap out there.[/QUOTE]
Whoa, I never meant Clapton was completely unoriginal. I love his work in Cream, Blind Faith and Derek & The Dominoes. I just find that some of his solo career and his current work are unoriginal. It just doesn't seem up to par compared to his previous material. And I never sayed I disliked the blues because they're not "hard or heavy" enough. I just don't find anything attention grabbing or interesting in itself. However, when the blues are mixed into rock, like Cream, I love it.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 01-10-2005 06:15 PM

A 1940 Delta bluesman > A 1966 British bluesman

Robert Johnson and Son House own any British dude who tried to immatate.

Broken Arrow 01-10-2005 06:58 PM

This isn't a blues thread. :angry:

/likes the blues

/doesn't flee

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 01-10-2005 07:04 PM

Blues influenced classic rock though.

jpj 01-10-2005 07:08 PM

I like blues, but not this crappy Clapton blues he's making now. It just all sounds like the same old thing over and over just being recycled.

Broken Arrow 01-10-2005 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma000]Blues influenced classic rock though.[/QUOTE]
That it did but we still don't talk about sraight up blues in this thread. :angry:

I liked the blues songs Clapton did at the Crossroads festival.

Woodstock 01-10-2005 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]I like blues, but not this crappy Clapton blues he's making now. It just all sounds like the same old thing over and over just being recycled.[/QUOTE]
True.

Johnny B. Good 01-10-2005 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]I like blues, but not this crappy Clapton blues he's making now. It just all sounds like the same old thing over and over just being recycled.[/QUOTE]

Amen. Every now and again he'll come out with a really really good blues song but then everything else is sounds like garbage. If he mixed his style of blues and rock together it would probably sound really good, that way he could have his blues that he loves so much and still be a kick@ss rock artist

thickasabrick 01-10-2005 08:22 PM

Some of you seem to forget that all Clapton ever wanted to do was to play the blues. The reason he went through so many bands is because he never liked when they started straying away from real blues, into more rock or mainstream stuff.

It was the same way with Hendrix actually, although I think both Hendrix and Clapton wrote way better rock/blues-rock songs than just straight blues songs.

I am a big fan of blues, but I prefer Claptons more rockish stuff.

Johnny B. Good 01-10-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Some of you seem to forget that all Clapton ever wanted to do was to play the blues. The reason he went through so many bands is because he never liked when they started straying away from real blues, into more rock or mainstream stuff.

It was the same way with Hendrix actually, although I think both Hendrix and Clapton wrote way better rock/blues-rock songs than just straight blues songs.

I am a big fan of blues, but I prefer Claptons more rockish stuff.[/QUOTE]

I don't Eric Clapton is very good at writing blues unfortunately. I like blues and all but his isn't that great but like I said earlier, every now and again he'll come out with a really good blues song

thickasabrick 01-10-2005 08:46 PM

Actually wait, I would like to correct my last post, but I figured it would be better to make a new post than to edit my last one...

Hendrix did not want to just play blues, it was the opposite...i'm not sure why i said that...Hendrix wanted to expand to more than the blues and it was John Hammond Jr who wanted him to stick to blues. I was wrong in my earlier post.

Jam2Me 01-10-2005 08:50 PM

I love "Bellbottom Blues" but it doesn't sound too bluesy. (Derek & Dominos)

lunch998 01-10-2005 08:51 PM

I like Clapton's drug influenced music. Disraeli Gears>Solo Career.

2 Grand :thumb:

BludgeonySteve 01-10-2005 08:55 PM

The Clapton Blues stuff is awesome. His tribute to Robert Johnson [I]Me and Mr. Johnson[/I] is really good ;).

jpj 01-10-2005 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]I like Clapton's drug influenced music. Disraeli Gears>Solo Career.

2 Grand :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Everything he ever did with Cream>solo career.

BludgeonySteve 01-10-2005 08:58 PM

Probably so. He uses a hell of a lot of Cream/Derek And The Dominoes (actually just Layla) in his concerts.

thickasabrick 01-10-2005 09:04 PM

I like his work in Cream the best.

magicbus 01-10-2005 09:05 PM

Please kids. Blues is Clapton's main influence in any and all of his music, its only respectable of him to do covers of Robert Johnson's music, who was his biggest influence. I love the blues, and I think Clapton does it wonderfully. Just cause it doesn't "rock", doesn't mean it doesn't rock. I will always have respect for anything Clapton does, because you know he'll never do something crappy.

And I don't want to get off the topic of Clapton in all his greatness, but I listened to My God last night and it was really sweet. I really loved the flute solo.

Badmoon 01-10-2005 09:18 PM

Top Grateful Dead Songs (At the moment (Download now! Or sample)
----------------------------------------------------
1. Ramble on Rose
2. U.S. Blues
3. Crazy Fingers
4. Black Peter
5. Tennessee Jed
6. Foolish Heart
7. Sitting on Top of the World


"They're Red Hot" off of Me & Mr. Johnson is pretty good.

thickasabrick 01-10-2005 09:21 PM

Badmoon what's your favourite Grateful Dead song of all time?

edit- and your da[COLOR=White]m[/COLOR]n right that's a sweet flute solo Magicbus. also..i've updated how amazing Ian Anderson is in the Jethro Tull thread, you may want to see what he has to offer.

Badmoon 01-10-2005 09:23 PM

[QUOTE]Badmoon what's your favourite Grateful Dead song of all time?[/QUOTE]

Probably "Sugar Magnolia".

thickasabrick 01-10-2005 09:25 PM

I like Sugar Magnolia as well...I think you recommended it to me, i'm not sure though.

I like it best when they use harmony in the vocals.

KingOfSka 01-10-2005 09:39 PM

**** how long has this thread been going?

magicbus 01-10-2005 09:42 PM

Since March 16th.

BIGdave7789 01-10-2005 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Yep. Then again so is Good Charlotte :(. Some teenagers are more cool than others I guess.[/QUOTE]


I would be one of the teenagers that love classic rock.........ACDC, Led Zeppelin, the stones, jimi, bad company, the doors,
GOOD CHARLOTTE DOES SUCK!!

Illmatic 01-10-2005 09:58 PM

Any opinions on Mott the Hoople?

"All the Young Dudes" is a good tune, and I want to know if I should check them out further.

KingOfSka 01-10-2005 10:00 PM

sorry if anybody mentioned this before, but somebody is making a movie about Jimi Hendrix, and Jimi might be played by Andre 3000 from Outkast, but they cant get the rights for any Hendrix songs to be played in the movie

Johnny B. Good 01-10-2005 10:01 PM

If you like like Def Leppard you should like them, they're supposed to be very influential on Def Leppard

Badmoon 01-10-2005 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=Disconnection Notice]Any opinions on Mott the Hoople?

"All the Young Dudes" is a good tune, and I want to know if I should check them out further.[/QUOTE]

I like that song :). However, that is all I have heard.

BillCosby 01-10-2005 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=StuckPunk]and Jimi might be played by Andre 3000 from Outkast, [/QUOTE]


That would be awesome.


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