[QUOTE=Hrothgar]I'd probably find it amusing if I don't get into the movie. Like when I saw Life is Beautiful, my friend told me the ending, and so I was mad and thought I wasn't going to get into, but I actually did, and felt sad rather then laughing at what happened.

EDIT-D[SIZE=2]a[/SIZE]mn.. I was trying to hold this post long enough to get the 20,000. :upset:[/QUOTE]

I win, you lose. :)

And I don't hate Tom Cruise.

[QUOTE=Cain]so this one reminded me of a crossbreed between Alien, 28 Days Later, and the original Dawn of the Dead.[/QUOTE]

Explain this a little more please.

[QUOTE=Hrothgar]Explain this a little more please.[/QUOTE]

Alien had the total and utter terror of being exposed to a dangerous alien presence with no warning, no hope of defense, and quick, sudden death. It was a very dark film about Alien hostility that derived more fear from how the humans reacted to it rather than the Alien itself. 28 Days Later was a human nature study of what mankind would be like after a post-apolcalypse. In addition, it showed a fantastic portrayal of ordinarilly populated zones being totally abandoned with all the evidence of mass hysteria and destruction lying on the ground with the paper, the ash, and the ominous dead bodies. The original Dawn of the Dead showed a similar post-apocalyptic atmosphere with true terror, and combined this with fantastic human leads, whom we care about and who do not succumb to the hysteria around them. There are also marauders and surviving humans who react to mankind's plight with the most banal behavior. And it does another great job of showing locations with the evidence of mass hysteria all around.

In essence, this is the best portrayal of mankind's panicked-mob mentality one could hope to show, in addition to a great portrayal of the end of the world scenario. It's very upsetting and very eerie, as Tom Cruise and his family travel the countryside, with alien forces everywhere they go and panicked civilians running away to no place. And like the zombie movies, there is never an explanation for the alien presence, never any information on how to defeat them--nobody knows anything except that they're dying and that they don't want to, and will do anything to stop themselves from dying.

[QUOTE=madeyadams]No. I hate Tom Cruise more than I hate women drivers.

Wait, what? Anyways, point is. I hate him too. He's a douche. Anyone who believes in "scientology" is completely retarded.[/QUOTE]

I think Lunch means that he likes Tom Cruise.

[QUOTE=madeyadams]No. I hate Tom Cruise more than I hate women drivers.

Wait, what? Anyways, point is. I hate him too. He's a douche. Anyone who believes in "scientology" is completely retarded.[/QUOTE]

Just because he's a prick in person doesn't make him a bad actor. One could argue that Russel Crowe is the biggest ******* ever, but does that make his movies bad? No.

Scientology is indeed ridiculous, but the quality of his performance in this movie and many others cannot be questioned.

Wow Cain, yeah tomarrow, I'll have to go see it. Also, can someone enlighten me to what Scientology really is I know Tom Cruise and a few other actors are, but I have no idea what the beliefs are.

I really don't care what Tom Cruise does or says to other people about "scientology". I think he makes at least decent movies that are entertaining. You can enjoy the art form without enjoying their personality.

I enjoy him in movies, but I can't say I'd want to hang out with the guy. What is this scientology, by the way?

Scientology's a religion. John Travolta's a scientologist, isn't he?

Anyway, I like Tom Cruise just fine. Right before WotW came out, when he was cruising (pun!) the light night talk circuit, he was all right, and actually seemed like a down-to-earth personable guy. Then I saw bits of his interviews with Matt Lauer and started thinking he's kind of an a-hole, but just before 10:30 at night. He's cool the rest of the time.

[QUOTE=lunch998]I really don't care what Tom Cruise does or says to other people about "scientology". I think he makes at least decent movies that are entertaining. You can enjoy the art form without enjoying their personality.[/QUOTE]

His little rantings are just another reason I don't like him. Personally, I was never impressed with anything he's ever done.

[QUOTE=cjborton]I enjoy him in movies, but I can't say I'd want to hang out with the guy. What is this scientology, by the way?[/QUOTE]

Picture sci-fi nerds crossed with Christian Scientists. It's a gross over-simplification, but not too far from the truth.

I don't have a problem with people that never cared for his movies in the first place, but this recent wave of everyone hating Tom Cruise is annoying.

Woah, this is what urbandictionary says.. but because it's urbandictionary I'm not sure about all the truth:
A cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. There core beliefs are as follows:

This area of the galaxy was once ruled by an alien warlord named Xenu. 65 million years ago his empire was overpopulated horribly, so to combat the overpopulation he had trillions of citizens called in for psychiatric evalutations and tax audits, where they were given paralytic drugs, loaded onto space planes, and flown to Planet Teegeeack. Once on this planet, their bodies were stacked in huge piles around volcanoes, while atom bombs were dropped into these volcanos, instantly killing trillions of galactic citizens.

To keep these people from reincarnating in the rest of the galaxy, Xenu set up a special trap. Powerful force-fields kept their souls (called "Thetans" in Scientology jargon) from escaping, and these thetans were then shown special holographic movies about the various lies they are supposed to believe, with characters like Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha. Over time, these thetans began to believe Xenu's lies about false gods, and began to reincarnate on Teegeeack (but the thetans called this world "Earth"). When intelligent life appeared on Teegeeack, thousands or millions of "Thetans" cling to every native soul (er, "thetan") and fill it's head with nonsensical thoughs and irrational beliefs.

The key idea of Scientology is to avoid tax officials and psychiatrists at all costs, while paying the church a large amount of money for special "counseling" (called "auditing" in their jargon) to help you reach a special enlightened state called "Clear" where you telepathically communicate with these "thetans" clinging to you and force them out of your body, and rid yourself of evil Xenu's influence.

(By the way, most Scientologists don't know this, like the Mystery Cults of the Greco-Roman world, Scientology doles it's doctrine out in tiny doses to it's new recruits, and tells the public next to nothing about what it believes. You don't hear that whole story until you reach a special rank in their group called "OT3" for "Operating Thetan 3". Their doctrine holds that if this got out, the Thetans in people would revolt at hearing the truth and people would get sick and die possibly just by hearing this story, which of course leads people who aren't Scientologists who hear this story to tell it to others and watch them not die or get ill from it.)

[QUOTE=Hrothgar]Woah, this is what urbandictionary says.. but because it's urbandictionary I'm not sure about all the truth:
A cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. There core beliefs are as follows:

This area of the galaxy was once ruled by an alien warlord named Xenu. 65 million years ago his empire was overpopulated horribly, so to combat the overpopulation he had trillions of citizens called in for psychiatric evalutations and tax audits, where they were given paralytic drugs, loaded onto space planes, and flown to Planet Teegeeack. Once on this planet, their bodies were stacked in huge piles around volcanoes, while atom bombs were dropped into these volcanos, instantly killing trillions of galactic citizens.

To keep these people from reincarnating in the rest of the galaxy, Xenu set up a special trap. Powerful force-fields kept their souls (called "Thetans" in Scientology jargon) from escaping, and these thetans were then shown special holographic movies about the various lies they are supposed to believe, with characters like Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha. Over time, these thetans began to believe Xenu's lies about false gods, and began to reincarnate on Teegeeack (but the thetans called this world "Earth"). When intelligent life appeared on Teegeeack, thousands or millions of "Thetans" cling to every native soul (er, "thetan") and fill it's head with nonsensical thoughs and irrational beliefs.

The key idea of Scientology is to avoid tax officials and psychiatrists at all costs, while paying the church a large amount of money for special "counseling" (called "auditing" in their jargon) to help you reach a special enlightened state called "Clear" where you telepathically communicate with these "thetans" clinging to you and force them out of your body, and rid yourself of evil Xenu's influence.

(By the way, most Scientologists don't know this, like the Mystery Cults of the Greco-Roman world, Scientology doles it's doctrine out in tiny doses to it's new recruits, and tells the public next to nothing about what it believes. You don't hear that whole story until you reach a special rank in their group called "OT3" for "Operating Thetan 3". Their doctrine holds that if this got out, the Thetans in people would revolt at hearing the truth and people would get sick and die possibly just by hearing this story, which of course leads people who aren't Scientologists who hear this story to tell it to others and watch them not die or get ill from it.)[/QUOTE]


:lol: Sweet, I want to be one....not. ^ That + seeing Tom on Oprah makes me wonder abuot his sanity. Oh well though, as long as he keeps making decent films.

[QUOTE=lunch998]I don't have a problem with people that never cared for his movies in the first place, but this recent wave of everyone hating Tom Cruise is annoying.[/QUOTE]

I know how to separate the person from the art. I like a couple of Jim Carrey's movies, even though he's a douchebag in real life. I like Last Action Hero, even though Schwarzenegger is a misogynist.

But I never really liked Cruise to begin with. Now I hear him spouting off on Scientology, denouncing anyone who disagrees with him, and just want him to shut his noise tube and make a decent movie.

IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`

I definitely don't believe that's the definition of Scientology... I'll check the Wiki.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I know how to separate the person from the art. I like a couple of Jim Carrey's movies, even though he's a douchebag in real life. I like Last Action Hero, even though Schwarzenegger is a misogynist.

But I never really liked Cruise to begin with. Now I hear him spouting off on Scientology, denouncing anyone who disagrees with him, and just want him to shut his noise tube and make a decent movie.[/QUOTE]

I just said I have no problem with people like you who don't like his movies and never liked him in the first place.

[QUOTE=trev913]I definitely don't believe that's the definition of Scientology... I'll check the Wiki.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, Scientologists [i]do[/i] believe we're descended from aliens.

You know, I recall reading about how in the mid-twentieth century, the cult of choice for celebrities was LeVey's Church of Satan. Whatever happened to that?

[QUOTE=lunch998]I just said I have no problem with people like you who don't like his movies and never liked him in the first place.[/QUOTE]

I know. There was a point I was trying to make there, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]As far as I know, Scientologists [i]do[/i] believe we're descended from aliens.

You know, I recall reading about how in the mid-twentieth century, the cult of choice for celebrities was LeVey's Church of Satan. Whatever happened to that?[/QUOTE]
I'll take Satanists over Scientologist any day.

[QUOTE=ThE_B.P.C]IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`[/QUOTE]
Heh Heh. All the need is a 'Wpah !' and it would be the epitome of drunken posting.

Where is Jelle, actually? I haven't talked to him for ages :(

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I know. There was a point I was trying to make there, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was.[/QUOTE]

Heh, I just read it as an argument and responded accordingly.

[QUOTE=ThE_B.P.C]IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`[/QUOTE]

What kind of person goes on MX when they're drunk, anyway?

Seriously, if you're drinking, you really should have something else to do then post on an internet forum.

[QUOTE=Cain]What kind of person goes on MX when they're drunk, anyway?[/QUOTE]

I have to raise my hand on that one, as it's been done many a time. However, my typing is usually minimally compromised.

[QUOTE=ThE_B.P.C]IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`[/QUOTE]

Someone's a bit drunk. :lol:

[QUOTE=lunch998]Seriously, if you're drinking, you really should have something else to do then post on an internet forum.[/QUOTE]

My point exactly. :)

Like, when you're as drunk as Joe is. I mean is this cool?

"Dude, you were so drunk, do you remember anything?"
"Yeah, dude, I like, posted on MX totally wasted, and I misspelled everything and ****. It was awesome."

;) But I suppose if you're drunk, you don't really care about all that.

When I'm drunk, I really like to be places that aren't my computer.

Anyway, I'm checking in for the time being...I'll be off pretty soon.

I spent the day with my dad's side of the family...my granddad jammed with John Lee Hooker! He's played with a lot of bluesmen but Hooker is the most famous one, I think. I jammed with him today, too :cool:

I couldn't find any recordings of him, though :-\

I don't like Tom Cruise because he has to be the smarmiest, smuggest (is that a word?) man on the planet...ever hear him talk or see an interview? I can't trust him. He's too slimy.

Posting drunk on MX is stupid, I concur.

The London thing was terrible...I'd make a snide comment about the Olympics, but the two places I would have placed above London (New York and Madrid) for the Olympics have experienced worse terrorist attacks in recent history.

Also, I'm still mystified as to why we have the 2008 Olympics in f[size=2]uck[/size]ing China. WTF?

Also, I love breasts too (late, I know) but as I've said before, when it comes to physical beauty I hold just about all the major parts in equal regard.

[QUOTE=Cain]Alex, don't be silly. Tom Cruise is a prick but he does a great job in this movie. It is NOT a movie to wait for DVD. It needs to be understood and processed in the very loud, amplified movie theater environment. Your enjoyment will only be less if you watch this on TV.[/QUOTE]

Don't bother me now. I'm being a petty otaku. :upset:

EDIT: And while we're reviving the conversation, I never understood the big deal about DD breasts. I actually prefer something in a B or C cup, personally.

What the heck is an Otaku?

[QUOTE=Illmatic]What the heck is an Otaku?[/QUOTE]

Anime nerd.

Oh.

Pardon me as I back away slowly, in comic disgust of your love for anime.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]EDIT: And while we're reviving the conversation, I never understood the big deal about DD breasts. I actually prefer something in a B or C cup, personally.[/QUOTE]

I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: It all depends on the girl's body.

Yea, if a girl is fat then she can have huge breasts.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]What the heck is an Otaku?[/QUOTE]

"Otacon?"
"It stands for Otaku Convention. I'm a fan of Japanese anime."

...Yeah, I've played Metal Gear Solid a lot...

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Oh.

Pardon me as I back away slowly, in comic disgust of your love for anime.[/quote]

/middle finger

[quote]I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: It all depends on the girl's body.[/QUOTE]

Well, I prefer slender girls. Long legs, subtle curves, thin without being grotequely skinny... that sort of thing.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]/middle finger[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Saw that coming.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Well, I prefer slender girls. Long legs, subtle curves, thin without being grotequely skinny... that sort of thing[/QUOTE]

I'm dating a...well, I don't know how to describe her. She's athletic, but she's not like one of those tiny-breasted female athletes in the Olympics or the WNBA (she has very good breasts...). So...I dunno.

Hi again. Steerpike - check page 797 I left a message for you. I'm off to lecture now.

Bye everyone. Again.

Oh, WNBA = lame.

And... Brakhage = still gay

and... Pepsi = gross. It leaves a nasty film of sugar on your teeth and is too sweet and undercarbonated.

And that is all. For now.

Yes, DM, we all know that Coke is far superior to pepsi in every way possible, or at least i do.

Coke for life!

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]Sup. So I've made 2 movies so far and watched many many others. Just saw Dead Man with Johnny Depp.. Holy crap it is amazing. Lots of avant-garde films (especially Brakhage who either really annoys me or I love). Basically, it's a good time. I don't get to use editing software until next wek though so everything's been in camera. I got to act in a make-out scene too which was fun. I've got class from 9-12 then 1-5 and lecture most nights from 8-10 but lecture is usually watching films. I'm really busy and need to go to class in a few minutes.

That was all mostly for Steerpike's benefit as I doubt most of you understand the Brakhage comment and that was the on;y one anyone else should care about.

My roommate listens to metal as does my floor counselor and next door neighbor. Sweet. They're mostly into metalcore but they like death metal too which is cool and I talk underground rap with some kid on the first floor. Remind me to check out more Immortal Technique. Alright, that's all for now. Go vote Sean Malone. Bye.[/QUOTE]

I hate you right now. I've just encountered another handful of setbacks in my attempt to make my own movies. Specifically, money. I was working for days a week, but now according to my bosses, I'll be lucky to work more than two. And since the Homestead property taxes came in, my first paycheck amounted to zero.

(sigh) You ever get that feeling like the entire universe is concentrating its energies on thwarting you?

[QUOTE=X12ouncesofhateX]Yes, DM, we all know that Coke is far superior to pepsi in every way possible, or at least i do.

Coke for life![/QUOTE]

D[size=2]a[/size]mn straight!