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dUSK 09-11-2005 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=clearvision]No, you should have used a downlaoding program like YSI-Get to make sure you can resume your download.[/QUOTE]

Don't you have to pay for use that?

If you don't, care to YSI me it? :lol:

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 09:20 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]sorry bro, its just that the two posts were about two completely different topics. i will try n avoid it as much as i can though.

do you guys know the tool song "Merbaka"?

aparently its egyptology and more ironically mentioned in a book called "Ægypt". im guessing thats where maynard got the blue prints for Ænema.

anyways, back to merbaka. its a form of early egyption meditation which helps one align his Mind (Mer*), Body(Ba*) & Soul (Ka*).

*(In Egyption).

in some of tool's concerts you can often see maynard sitting on the floor cross legged with both eyes closed while the rest of the band gives birth to a screaming sound.

cheers,

Feign.[/QUOTE]


Thanks, that was cool to know. MJK tends to get quite strange on stage. Not that I'm complaining. I would really kill to see them live. :smash: yah, kill.

Feign 09-11-2005 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]Thanks, that was cool to know. MJK tends to get quite strange on stage. Not that I'm complaining. I would really kill to see them live. :smash: yah, kill.[/QUOTE]


LOL! you would kill to see MJK live??? dude, i live in india. the last concert we had here were the bombay bangers.......

feign...

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 09:33 AM

The lost concert I saw was...muse, but that wasn't in my home country. The last concert we HAD was Westlife.

Feign 09-11-2005 09:36 AM

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]The lost concert I saw was...muse, but that wasn't in my home country. The last concert we HAD was Westlife.[/QUOTE]


haha dude, here in india we dont have any concerts cause none of them are approved by the ghandi club.

Spiritofmosa 09-11-2005 09:38 AM

wow u r from india? r u indian?

kurrpt 09-11-2005 09:41 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]sorry bro, its just that the two posts were about two completely different topics. i will try n avoid it as much as i can though.

do you guys know the tool song "Merbaka"?

aparently its egyptology and more ironically mentioned in a book called "Ægypt". im guessing thats where maynard got the blue prints for Ænema.

anyways, back to merbaka. its a form of early egyption meditation which helps one align his Mind (Mer*), Body(Ba*) & Soul (Ka*).

*(In Egyption).

in some of tool's concerts you can often see maynard sitting on the floor cross legged with both eyes closed while the rest of the band gives birth to a screaming sound.

cheers,

Feign.[/QUOTE]



Im pretty sure its "merkaba" which is like the spiritual sh!t the whole band is into. It even adorns their practice hall, for lack of a better term.

and i thought everyone knew it wasnt about heroine :lol:

Feign 09-11-2005 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]Im pretty sure its "merkaba" which is like the spiritual sh!t the whole band is into. It even adorns their practice hall, for lack of a better term.

and i thought everyone knew it wasnt about heroine :lol:[/QUOTE]


firstly, merbaka merkaba--- same sh i t.

secondly, EVERYONE i've seen in this forum has related H. with heroin.

cheers,
feign.

kurrpt 09-11-2005 09:45 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]firstly, merbaka merkaba--- same sh i t.

secondly, EVERYONE i've seen in this forum has related H. with heroin.

cheers,
feign.[/QUOTE]


well, with that being said, i think those are the same people that think stinkfist is about anal/**** fisting...


but thats been done to death already :lol:

Futuro 09-11-2005 09:48 AM

[QUOTE]secondly, EVERYONE i've seen in this forum has related H. with heroin.[/QUOTE] I dont relate his lyrics to anything, cause i could give a s[B]hi[/B]t less what he says. I only listen to tool for the music.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 09:49 AM

ha. that's funny. Tool really knows how to make people argue about useless sh!t.

kurrpt 09-11-2005 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]ha. that's funny. Tool really knows how to make people argue about useless sh!t.[/QUOTE]

If you really dissect/examine any arguement, you'll find this to be true.

ThePatient 09-11-2005 09:59 AM

[QUOTE=faith+1]I dont relate his lyrics to anything, cause i could give a s[B]hi[/B]t less what he says. I only listen to tool for the music.[/QUOTE]
You and me both. :chug:

Syncratic 09-11-2005 10:02 AM

I usually like to go beyond the song and see the internal message, but listening for the music is the way to go!

Feign 09-11-2005 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=cigaro88]wow u r from india? r u indian?[/QUOTE]

yes, i am from india and yes, i am indian.

and stink fist is not about anal fisting my friends. it uses the metaphor of fist ****ing as compared to breaking through, or passing into something, being taken over by something.

cheers,

feign.

p.s- i agree, tool does know how to make people argue about useless ****, but then again "On a long enough timeline, everything is pointless" - Maynard James of Tool.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 10:05 AM

Yah, but the hidden meanings in the songs make it even more worth while to listen to. The hidden messages Tool tend to put in the songs are very interesting as it gives us a taste of what their views on common subjects are. I like that.

Syncratic 09-11-2005 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]yes, i am from india and yes, i am indian.

and stink fist is not about anal fisting my friends. it uses the metaphor of fist ****ing as compared to breaking through, or passing into something, being taken over by something.

cheers,

feign.[/QUOTE]

I like you, alot.

:thumb:

Feign 09-11-2005 10:10 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]Ænima is possibly the best tool album indeed. But the thing you've gotta love about tool is their exploration with albums. Each album focuses on a specific theme and the songs of that album just simply break down those themes making it more explanatory; eg: Opiate- "Question Authority" or Lateralus- "Reconciliation/Thinking outside the lines (Lateral thinking)". Through Tool's music we get a different perspective about life as a whole. Tool is definately one of the best bands to ever exist as it gives science, psycology, philosophy a sound.

Feign.[/QUOTE]

i've mentioned it before, and i just want to say it again.

YouGottaBeCrazy 09-11-2005 10:30 AM

You know, I'm watching this video of Maynard interviews, and I'm not exactly sure what he means by something. He says that he's only 1/4th of the importance of the band and I agree with that. He seems to have a problem with people looking at the lyrics, though. What I mean is, he says every song has a type of emotion and the lyrics are just there to reinforce that idea, and that they aren't that important. What I don't get is how he couldn't consider the lyrics as important as the rest of the music. When I hear their songs, it's the lyrics that are basically narrating the emotion and the music (which includes the vocal melodies) is acting out the emotion, so isn't it just as important? Without the lyrics, I might get a completely different vibe from a song. I probably just misinterpreted what he said.

clearvision 09-11-2005 10:33 AM

He is saying there is 4 people in the band, he is just one of the 4. And just as important as danny, adam or justin.

YouGottaBeCrazy 09-11-2005 10:36 AM

Yeah, I know that, but what I'm saying is, why doesn't he want people to think about the lyrics too much? The lyrics help me further understand what the music is trying to say. I would never listen to a song with great lyrics and terrible music because I consider the music to be more important, but music can't be about something, it can only express a feeling. The lyrics are needed to express what a song is about. Did that make sense?

denboy 09-11-2005 10:37 AM

That guy who did the oklahoma Tool bootleg is working on a multi angle, Dredg bootleg with great sound.. It's gonna be sooo :cool:

Feign 09-11-2005 10:37 AM

[QUOTE=satchforever]You know, I'm watching this video of Maynard interviews, and I'm not exactly sure what he means by something. He says that he's only 1/4th of the importance of the band and I agree with that. He seems to have a problem with people looking at the lyrics, though. What I mean is, he says every song has a type of emotion and the lyrics are just there to reinforce that idea, and that they aren't that important. What I don't get is how he couldn't consider the lyrics as important as the rest of the music. When I hear their songs, it's the lyrics that are basically narrating the emotion and the music (which includes the vocal melodies) is acting out the emotion, so isn't it just as important? I probably just misinterpreted what he said.[/QUOTE]

in no interview does he say hes only 1/4th of the importance of the band, however he does state that he is only 1/4th of the project; Tool. he does not say that the lyrics are not important, however he does say that when people listen to a song, they run straight to the lyrics to figure out what the songs about. they ignore the music. he states that in most bands (this is actually true) the music is made to suit the lyrics, however tool works in the opposite way-- first the music is recorded, then maynard feels the tone of the music and writes lyrics accordingly.

get your facts right bro :thumb:

cheers,
feign.

Syncratic 09-11-2005 10:38 AM

In other news:

The chord progression on "Maynard's Dick" sounds cool on my acoustic.

You can go back to your lives now.

Shadius 09-11-2005 10:40 AM

To add to that, he makes a witty comment about if lyrics were ultimately the most important thing, as some people seem to think, spoken word tours would be sold out.

Otherside 09-11-2005 10:42 AM

I think it's kind of stupid to actually follow Maynard on stuff like that. Personal enjoyment should always override outside opinion.

Listen to it the way you want, the way that causes you to feel the most.

Darkness 09-11-2005 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=satchforever]I don't have a lot to give, but what would you like in return? I'm serious, by the way. This must have took a lot of your time, and I want to repay the favor.[/QUOTE]
You guys are all welcome, and to satchforever... Would you happen to have The Noose live?????? If not, don't worry about it.

YouGottaBeCrazy 09-11-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]in no interview does he say hes only 1/4th of the importance of the band, however he does state that he is only 1/4th of the project; Tool. he does not say that the lyrics are not important, however he does say that when people listen to a song, they run straight to the lyrics to figure out what the songs about. they ignore the music. he states that in most bands (this is actually true) the music is made to suit the lyrics, however tool works in the opposite way-- first the music is recorded, then maynard feels the tone of the music and writes lyrics accordingly.

get your facts right bro :thumb:

cheers,
feign.[/QUOTE]

Notice how I said that I may have misinterpreted what he said. I wasn't stating it as a fact. Get your facts right bro :thumb: No need to talk to me like that.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=satchforever]You know, [B]I'm watching this video of Maynard interviews[/B], and I'm not exactly sure what he means by something. He says that he's only 1/4th of the importance of the band and I agree with that. He seems to have a problem with people looking at the lyrics, though. What I mean is, he says every song has a type of emotion and the lyrics are just there to reinforce that idea, and that they aren't that important. What I don't get is how he couldn't consider the lyrics as important as the rest of the music. When I hear their songs, it's the lyrics that are basically narrating the emotion and the music (which includes the vocal melodies) is acting out the emotion, so isn't it just as important? Without the lyrics, I might get a completely different vibe from a song. I probably just misinterpreted what he said.[/QUOTE]

Do you have it on your computer? if you do, Could you maybe upload it. I really want more interviews...plz :)

Kage 09-11-2005 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]You guys are all welcome, and to satchforever... Would you happen to have The Noose live?????? If not, don't worry about it.[/QUOTE]
Are you aware that there's a video of it available or are you just desperately shooting in the dark?

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:18 AM

Fancy telling us where to get that?

Kage 09-11-2005 11:31 AM

Oh...I don't know of one. I was asking him if he did. I've never seen one, even though I, too, would love to see that song live.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:43 AM

oh, sorry, misunderstood you there. Yah, I would also like to see that. I'm on the look out for it on torrent sites.

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]Are you aware that there's a video of it available or are you just desperately shooting in the dark?[/QUOTE]
The answer is yes. A video does exist of it live. I saw a clip of it once... ment to get the whole thing but something went wrong with my internet... can't remember where I saw it though, and its been haunting me ever since.

Kage 09-11-2005 11:48 AM

Was it a good quality video? If it is, then I'll be on the look for it.

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:49 AM

Yeah it was pretty good, wasn't the best. Sound was top notch, video a little fuzzed.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:50 AM

DoG, My connection is fkin' fast, broadband, 354kbps. It just bombs everytime. I goes at around 40-50kbps download rate. wtf. it's crazy. Any advise?

Darkness 09-11-2005 11:53 AM

Very strange, does it cut out every once in a while? I know my friends broadband does that, and it messes his downloads sometimes. I use cable, and nothing like that ever happens to me.

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-11-2005 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=Feign]sorry bro, its just that the two posts were about two completely different topics. i will try n avoid it as much as i can though.

do you guys know the tool song "Merbaka"?

aparently its egyptology and more ironically mentioned in a book called "Ægypt". im guessing thats where maynard got the blue prints for Ænema.

anyways, back to merbaka. its a form of early egyption meditation which helps one align his Mind (Mer*), Body(Ba*) & Soul (Ka*).

*(In Egyption).

in some of tool's concerts you can often see maynard sitting on the floor cross legged with both eyes closed while the rest of the band gives birth to a screaming sound.

cheers,

Feign.[/QUOTE]


Merkaba is just another "vehicle" into the realm of the metaphysical. So basically, it's just another peice of proof that Tool is definitely big on metaphysics and the like.

Prince of Darkness 09-11-2005 11:56 AM

you see, my pc's internet kicks out every once in a while, but when I started downloading it on my brother's pc, it bombed at the same place. 280/300mb.hmm. Do you have part 2 of the show, DoG?


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