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repcak 06-03-2006 03:31 PM

i think there is a big difference between influence by playing the songs, or by (only) listen to them ... and try to copy it. try to copy something and come up with something new (and your own style) and copy something 100% correctly are two different things (imo)

MRDuCran 06-03-2006 03:44 PM

I know he says he wasn't very good at copying, but naturally I am, so me and him are different. I've also read the same thing from Matt Heafy of Trivium, preferring to learn a few things here and there whilst developing his own style. You could say my style was like Paul Gilbert since he's my overall favourite guitarist and has made me who I am today, but then copying his licks isn't my own either. I have only been playing for 4 years though. Matt has been playing since he was about 12, Alexi since 10, Gilbert since 7-9 I think, Jason Becker since 5, Malmsteen since 5, etc so I don't really feel I'm ready. That's a small portion of the reason I haven't bothered joining/starting a band.

Check out this link also:

[url]http://jacksonstars.com/rrj2sp.html[/url]














[url=www.meatspin.com]www.metallica.com/new_song[/url]

repcak 06-03-2006 03:49 PM

holy **** ... this guitar is beautiful O.o
it isn't realised yet?!

i said that i plan to get the Jackson DXMG next month, but today i just discovered the Jackson DKMG. the DKMG is even more beautiful than the DXMG, but i have to pay 150-200€ more :upset: so i think i will stay with the DXMG :)

Shadows Within 06-03-2006 04:08 PM

How much is the DKMG my DK2 was $575

Crysiss 06-03-2006 04:10 PM

I was thinking of getting a DK too, But my 3 guitars are already suitable for metal playing.

repcak 06-03-2006 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]How much is the DKMG my DK2 was $575[/QUOTE]
it depends on the exact model... 600-800€

TEST 06-03-2006 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I know he says he wasn't very good at copying, but naturally I am, so me and him are different. I've also read the same thing from Matt Heafy of Trivium, preferring to learn a few things here and there whilst developing his own style. You could say my style was like Paul Gilbert since he's my overall favourite guitarist and has made me who I am today, but then copying his licks isn't my own either. I have only been playing for 4 years though. Matt has been playing since he was about 12, Alexi since 10, Gilbert since 7-9 I think, Jason Becker since 5, Malmsteen since 5, etc so I don't really feel I'm ready. That's a small portion of the reason I haven't bothered joining/starting a band.

Check out this link also:

[url]http://jacksonstars.com/rrj2sp.html[/url][/QUOTE]

I fapp'd when I saw that guitar.














come on. I couldn't help it. That's one serious beauty.

blue3 06-03-2006 04:38 PM

Haha.. yeah it's quite awesome.

Crysiss 06-03-2006 04:46 PM

Ive seen it before, Ive played it too. Its beautiful but im not a big fan of the V shaped guitars.

TEST 06-03-2006 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=Crysiss]Ive seen it before, Ive played it too. Its beautiful but im not a big fan of the V shaped guitars.[/QUOTE]

I don't like em much either. Kinda lame:p

Shadows Within 06-03-2006 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I know he says he wasn't very good at copying, but naturally I am, so me and him are different. I've also read the same thing from Matt Heafy of Trivium, preferring to learn a few things here and there whilst developing his own style. You could say my style was like Paul Gilbert since he's my overall favourite guitarist and has made me who I am today, but then copying his licks isn't my own either. I have only been playing for 4 years though. Matt has been playing since he was about 12, Alexi since 10, Gilbert since 7-9 I think, Jason Becker since 5, Malmsteen since 5, etc so I don't really feel I'm ready. That's a small portion of the reason I haven't bothered joining/starting a band.

Check out this link also:

[url]http://jacksonstars.com/rrj2sp.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7zI-OIwz8Q&search=tuska[/url]

i think thats same one but with a black bridge instead of gold.

We should do a cover of a COB song like there doing in the Nevermore thread.

MRDuCran 06-03-2006 06:28 PM

I think there's only 1 other person in here who plays drums, and I'm not sure if he has a kit at home. I know I don't. Plus, Bodom drums are hard.

AA-12 06-03-2006 07:50 PM

I do. I could probably play Bodom song but haven't tried any.

Shattered_Future 06-03-2006 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I think there's only 1 other person in here who plays drums, and I'm not sure if he has a kit at home. I know I don't. Plus, Bodom drums are hard.[/QUOTE]

They really aren't.

MRDuCran 06-03-2006 07:55 PM

Double bass at 190-220 is.

Shattered_Future 06-03-2006 07:58 PM

I'm not talking speedwise, I'm talking patternwise. He doesn't deviate much from a standard beat.

MRDuCran 06-03-2006 08:03 PM

Oh right. Yeah that's true, he only really plays simple 3/4/6 patterns.

AA-12 06-03-2006 08:04 PM

Well, what song do you think we would do? That way I could see if I could learn it.

Shattered_Future 06-03-2006 08:04 PM

Not saying that he doesn't work well with the band though...his minimalistic style oddly works with the group.

MRDuCran 06-03-2006 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=The Unholy]Well, what song do you think we would do? That way I could see if I could learn it.[/QUOTE]

Well unfortunately, alot of their songs DO have alot of double bass and fast tom fills, fast guitar solos also, and alot of their songs are 170+. Sucks 'cause I can hardly play a complete song all the way through and they're my fave band.

AA-12 06-03-2006 08:50 PM

The double bass could probably come to me, and I'm pretty sure I can do most of the fills. This will hopefully work out :)

Shadows Within 06-03-2006 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Well unfortunately, alot of their songs DO have alot of double bass and fast tom fills, fast guitar solos also, and alot of their songs are 170+. Sucks 'cause I can hardly play a complete song all the way through and they're my fave band.[/QUOTE]
what about downfall? i just learned most of that on keys :p
or we could do everytime i die... easy drumming

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 12:04 AM

I'd say Everytime I Die was your best bet. I hardly see anyone being able to play the Downfall solo.

TEST 06-04-2006 01:29 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I'd say Everytime I Die was your best bet. I hardly see anyone being able to play the Downfall solo.[/QUOTE]

I've seen Alexi play it. If that counts.

Silenius 06-04-2006 01:33 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I'd say Everytime I Die was your best bet. I hardly see anyone being able to play the Downfall solo.[/QUOTE]
The Downfall solo is basic, just really ****ing fast. It's hard don't get me wrong, but not there is definitely harder stuff.:)

TEST 06-04-2006 01:50 AM

[QUOTE=Silenius]The Downfall solo is basic, just really ****ing fast. It's hard don't get me wrong, but not there is definitely harder stuff.:)[/QUOTE]

We're Not Gonna Fall solo or TL&S solo

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 01:58 AM

I know it's basic but it's the speed that makes it hard. I've said before, sure:

E-3-4-3-4-3-4 is fricken easy, but can you play it at 240bpm with semiquavers...I think not.

I think if you slowed down all Alexi's solos, you'd find they were pretty basic but because he plays most of them at like 190, it's a bitch to get them close to that speed while staying 100% accurate. This has also been proved to me by youtube.

TEST 06-04-2006 02:05 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I know it's basic but it's the speed that makes it hard. I've said before, sure:

E-3-4-3-4-3-4 is fricken easy, but can you play it at 240bpm with semiquavers...I think not.

I think if you slowed down all Alexi's solos, you'd find they were pretty basic but because he plays most of them at like 190, it's a bitch to get them close to that speed while staying 100% accurate. This has also been proved to me by youtube.[/QUOTE]

Yup. Youtube has many bad bodom covers

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 07:07 AM

Check out this guy playing Sixpounder on drums, I like it.
The only fault I can find is he speeds up a tad during the (C-222222) bit.
His double kick is great.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxUbGEd968o&search=Children%20of%20Bodom[/url]

AA-12 06-04-2006 07:11 AM

He has some terrible hand technique though. I feel like learning that now.

EDIT: I found a cool video of my second favorite drummer: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2fYot9AjN8&search=virgil%20donati[/url]

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 08:03 AM

He got the fills out fine, I don't see what's wrong.

I used to be into Virgil Donati, not anymore though. I got over his hi-tom stuff, and stick spinning pretty quick.

I have a video of Carter Beauford playing Tripping Billies, I really like that guys' style. Chris Adler I like also. Can't really think of anymore original drummers. Most of the stuff I listen to features speed, and most people will argue if you say Derek Roddy is good, and I can't be bothered arguing over my opinion.

Shadows Within 06-04-2006 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I'd say Everytime I Die was your best bet. I hardly see anyone being able to play the Downfall solo.[/QUOTE]
My friend could probally do it, and i know most on keys.

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 12:08 PM

I'd like to hear it.

Oh wait, you mean the guy who played Everytime I Die with you....?

AA-12 06-04-2006 12:10 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]He got the fills out fine, I don't see what's wrong.

I used to be into Virgil Donati, not anymore though. I got over his hi-tom stuff, and stick spinning pretty quick.

I have a video of Carter Beauford playing Tripping Billies, I really like that guys' style. Chris Adler I like also. Can't really think of anymore original drummers. Most of the stuff I listen to features speed, and most people will argue if you say Derek Roddy is good, and I can't be bothered arguing over my opinion.[/QUOTE]
His hand technique is the problem. His grip is tight.

Virgil has some pretty gimmickey things, but not many drummers come close to him.

I get into tons of Roddy arguements, haha.

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 12:22 PM

I'm sure he'll sort that out as he progresses.

I'm guessing you're against Roddy, purely for the fact that he's 16th s 250bpm for 3534636352466 minutes and adding random tom fills in there too??

AA-12 06-04-2006 12:42 PM

He's my favorite drummer actually, :p

MRDuCran 06-04-2006 05:11 PM

Ah right, wasn't expecting that.

Shadows Within 06-04-2006 05:14 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I'd like to hear it.

Oh wait, you mean the guy who played Everytime I Die with you....?[/QUOTE]
yeah thats him

he just did a silent night, bodom night/downfall song for a guitar comp.

he won 3rd ****ing place because the guy who won had been playing for 26 years and the kid who got 2nd...well they just felt bad for him i guess cause he was horrible.

he's going to post the vid of him at the comp later on tonight so you'll get to see it along with me because I wasn't there.

MRDuCran 06-05-2006 04:45 AM

Well tbh, I doubt it sounded that great. I didn't like his playing on Everytime I Die and that's a slow song.

TEST 06-05-2006 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Well tbh, I doubt it sounded that great. I didn't like his playing on Everytime I Die and that's a slow song.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I do the triplets in SNBN, not full speed.


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