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Pluperfect_Arson 10-18-2006 09:14 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13466641]2^2=2 x 2
-2^2=-2 x -2
-2 x -2=4[/QUOTE]

Actually, it would be 2^2=2 x 2, so 2 x 2 = 4; however, -2^2 = -1 x 2 x 2, which would then, essentially, come out as -4. The one is just "invisible" as some would say. If it were (-2)^2 then, yes, that does equal -2 x -2, which does equal 4.

Mr. Pickle 10-18-2006 09:15 PM

whos watching south park? the dog the bounty hunter thing was hilarious.

Weezer 10-18-2006 09:15 PM

i am, funny stuff.

irishslappop 10-18-2006 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13466652]Uhh...

1+3=4 because we all know how to count and add numbers together.

Let me try to explain this...

People used to think the Earth was flat. This was regarded as fact and truth because there was no disputing it at that time. They couldn't disprove it. Eventually they discovered that it is actually round, which we know is a fact know.
The Earth is something that existed already and they were using their knowledge of it to come to the conclusions that they did.


so if they were invented by man, 1 has NO MEANING, only the meaning that one man decided to give it. 1 is nothing, a concept, a theory.
Mathematics and numbers were INVENTED by man, they did not exist beforehand. There is nothing new to find out about 1+1 because it already has an answer that is set in stone, 2. We're not going to suddenly get some new information by doing equation after equation that tells us, oh, 1+1 is actually 3.[/QUOTE]

exsactly, invented by man. one mans rules are right and the rest are wrong?

if he wanted to he could have said "1+1 = 3" and today, right now, you'd be arguing that 1+1=3. i think were having trouble articulating this in text.

BenJammin 10-18-2006 09:15 PM

Both MSN and myspace are being retarded and you people are blathering about math.

I'm so bored.

Phalanx 10-18-2006 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pickle;13466692]whos watching south park? the dog the bounty hunter thing was hilarious.[/QUOTE]

im waiting for it to get uploaded so I can bask in its glory

[quote=BenJammin]Both MSN and myspace are being retarded and you people are blathering about math.

I'm so bored.[/quote]

[img]http://nismo.me.uk/images/you_suck_sad.jpg[/img]

Moon Flavor 10-18-2006 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;13466701]Both MSN and myspace are being retarded and you people are blathering about math.

I'm so bored.[/QUOTE]

123456789

Get AIM, we will talk :p

Left Shoe 10-18-2006 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;13466701]Both MSN and myspace are being retarded and you people are blathering about math.

I'm so bored.[/QUOTE]

123

irishslappop 10-18-2006 09:18 PM

but you guys are still reading it -_-

Aerodyne 10-18-2006 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=Left Shoe]123[/QUOTE]

Quit complaining and go play your TRB's you. . . you. . . TRB owning jerk! :upset:

















:lol:

BenJammin 10-18-2006 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=jcs497;13466714]123456789

Get AIM, we will talk :p[/QUOTE]

AIM is terrible.

And I don't know if you saw that I responded to your blog comment, but the CDs are $5.

BenJammin 10-18-2006 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=Aerodyne;13466733]Quit complaining and go play your TRB's you. . . you. . . TRB owning jerk! :upset:

:lol:[/QUOTE]

Judd, I'm pretty disappointed with the FFV piano collection. It lacks a lot feeling in the playing and the piano was very bland sounding.

Spaceman Spiff 10-18-2006 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13466625]2 =/= -2

2^2 = 4

-2^2 = 4
[/QUOTE]
It's because it's negative two (-2) negative two (-2) times.

So...

-2 * 1 = -2

That shows -2 one time.

-2 * -1 = 2

That shows -2 negative one times. Negative, being the opposite of positive, so when a negative number is multiplied by another negative, you are showing what happens when that negative is shown a negative number of times, thus making it positive.

That probably wasn't clear at all (because it's damn hard explaining it in detailed words like that), but you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

Phalanx 10-18-2006 09:21 PM

[img]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b389/bwolf06/Funny/rex3d.gif[/img]

this picture is weird, something about it

Ting 10-18-2006 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13466744]It's because it's negative two (-2) negative two (-2) times.

So...

-2 * 1 = -2

That shows -2 one time.

-2 * -1 = 2

That shows -2 negative one times. Negative, being the opposite of positive, so when a negative number is multiplied by another negative, you are showing what happens when that negative is shown a negative number of times, thus making it positive.

That probably wasn't clear at all (because it's damn hard explaining it in detailed words like that), but you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.[/QUOTE]
I already posted that?

Moon Flavor 10-18-2006 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;13466735]AIM is terrible.

And I don't know if you saw that I responded to your blog comment, but the CDs are $5.[/QUOTE]

Ooooh thanks, I probably wouldn't have checked back :p

Shipping...?

Ting 10-18-2006 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Phalanx;13466750][img]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b389/bwolf06/Funny/rex3d.gif[/img]

this picture is weird, something about it[/QUOTE]

Thats fuc[I]k[/I]ing sick.

Pluperfect_Arson 10-18-2006 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Ting;13466756]Thats ****!ng sick.[/QUOTE]

And causing me to have a seizure.

[QUOTE="Pluperfect_Arson"]Actually, it would be 2^2=2 x 2, so 2 x 2 = 4; however, -2^2 = -1 x 2 x 2, which would then, essentially, come out as -4. The one is just "invisible" as some would say. If it were (-2)^2 then, yes, that does equal -2 x -2, which does equal 4.[/QUOTE]

Left Shoe 10-18-2006 09:22 PM

myspace works!


pff i am playing it

irishslappop 10-18-2006 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13466744]but you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.[/QUOTE]

:wave:





do you think weed is green? assuming its not some bomb purple-erple?

HELLonWHEELS 10-18-2006 09:23 PM

whoa that pic^^^

Aerodyne 10-18-2006 09:23 PM

Yeah. I would have to agree. It has one or two good songs, but for the most part, yes, moste blande. *recieves two monocles on the prenentious-ness scale*

Brink of Time if effing amazing and the Grand Finale isn't bad either. :thumb:

Radiobass81 10-18-2006 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13466698]exsactly, invented by man. one mans rules are right and the rest are wrong?

if he wanted to he could have said "1+1 = 3" and today, right now, you'd be arguing that 1+1=3. i think were having trouble articulating this in text.[/QUOTE]

I'm with Spiff on this one, because, the way I see it, you're not arguing logic, but you're arguing the definition of something.

If they thought us that 1+3 = 12, we would eventually grow and see it's illogical, just like we saw that Santa Clause was an illogical concept. And if someone said 1 + 1 is 3, he would be either wrong, or his concept of 3 is actually 2.

Spaceman Spiff 10-18-2006 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13466698]exsactly, invented by man. one mans rules are right and the rest are wrong?

if he wanted to he could have said "1+1 = 3" and today, right now, you'd be arguing that 1+1=3. i think were having trouble articulating this in text.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for not comprehending what my post was saying.

It's okay, it happens to the best of us every now and then.

BenJammin 10-18-2006 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=jcs497;13466753]Ooooh thanks, I probably wouldn't have checked back :p

Shipping...?[/QUOTE]

I have no idea. I can't imagine it'd be that expensive to ship a CD. I've yet to look into it yet, since I don't have cover art for the CDs so they're not technically for sale yet.

BenJammin 10-18-2006 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Aerodyne;13466775]Yeah. I would have to agree. It has one or two good songs, but for the most part, yes, moste blande. *recieves two monocles on the prenentious-ness scale*

Brink of Time if effing amazing and the Grand Finale isn't bad either. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Brink of Time is totally the s[size=2]hit[/size].

Spaceman Spiff 10-18-2006 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13466767]do you think weed is green? assuming its not some bomb purple-erple?[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Weed would look like the color that it is regardless, green is the name that color was given.

The color was not invented, the name was.

HELLonWHEELS 10-18-2006 09:27 PM

I finally played the intro to classical thump well.

irishslappop 10-18-2006 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=Radiobass81;13466779]or his concept of 3 is actually 2.[/QUOTE]

this is what im arguing. im not arguing that a single apple and a single apple make two apples, thats very "true". im arguing that if you were told from day 1 that 1+3=12 you would believe it, because it was told to you as truth.

numbers aren;t anything, they dont exist. can you punch the number one? of course you cant. number are what humans made them. they have no inherent traits because there is nothing inherent about them. it's a technicality, but the world runs off of them.

you cant say, i percieve this pen as black, but i know that it may not be and then say, all numbers have an inherent value, they;re both human constructs, its the same thing.

Radiobass81 10-18-2006 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13466793]:lol:

Weed would look like the color that it is regardless, green is the name that color was given.

The color was not invented, the name was.[/QUOTE]

Correct.

The way I see it, either Irish is discussing being taught illogical things, or being taught something if the definition of one thing was replaced by another (the value of three and the value of two, for example).


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