But that's just not true.

usually when you say that you provide who you feel is the 'better' metalcore band

Well if I were to do that he'd come up with a thousand reasons why said metalcore band is worse than Botch and in the end I would give in because I wouldn't really care enough to argue back.

Converge > Botch

[QUOTE]Converge > Botch[/QUOTE]
Correct!

*Cracks knuckles.

Here I go!

@H&D, thanks for the rec on Burnt By The Sun mate, I'm really liking em, very solid.

But ya opinions are subjective blah blah but I'll say this, it took Converge 11 years to release their "Opus Magnus" and only 6 years for Botch. (Source:Wiki)

The only thing that Converge trumphs Botch on is their drumming.

[QUOTE=mathjic;17230976]@H&D, thanks for the rec on Burnt By The Sun mate, I'm really liking em, very solid.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you like them, look out for a new album from them soon.

Converge has at least 3 albums better than Botch's best album. Botch has three albums total.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17230981]Converge has at least 3 albums better than Botch's best album. Botch has three albums total.[/QUOTE]

This.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17230981]Converge has at least 3 albums better than Botch's best album. Botch has three albums total.[/QUOTE]

Yeah definitely this.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;17230977]

The only thing that Converge trumphs Botch on is their drumming.

[/QUOTE]

Def this, kid knows his metalcore.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17230981]Converge has at least 3 albums better than Botch's best album. Botch has three albums total.[/QUOTE]

False.

Botch is comparatively as good as Converge.

Top 5 metalcore goes as such:

1. Unbroken
2. Converge
3. Deadguy
4. Botch
5. Kiss It Goodbye

IDK NO ORDER

7A7P
Botch
Skycamefalling
Converge
Embrace The End

Embrace The End in the top 5? Whaaaaaaaaat?

Knut is up there for sure.

I love Knut, I just have trouble choosing a top 5.
[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;17231262]Embrace The End in the top 5? Whaaaaaaaaat?[/QUOTE]

They're ****ing awesome, imo.

And seriously,

[url]http://last.fm/user/thescourgetrial[/url]

I listen to them all the time.

i honestly don't know what mine would be anymore. i really don't know haha.

i like reading random youtube comments

"you say Lil Wayne- I say Disturbed
you say Jonas Bros- Rammstein
you say 50 cent- I say KoЯn
you say Soulja Boy- I say Metalica
you say Justin Timberlake- I say Slipknot
you say MIA- Guns and roses
you say rap and pop- I SAY listen to some REAL music.
92% of teens have turned to pop and rap.
If your one the 8% who like to to headbang and disturb the peace, copy and paste"

picking my top 5 metalcore bands would be tough just cuz i know i love more than 5 metalcore bands and im going to have a hard time picking that 5th spot. i can probably make a list in a few months because right now bands like Unbroken and Deadguy dominating for me

ill try....
right now i'd say

Mis sigs
Life In Your Way (debatably just melodic hardcore)
abr
shai hulud (also debatably just melodic hardcore)
and i've been on a bit of an old killswitch stint recently.

lol abr

everyone here knows i have a mad softspot for them. leave me alone =p

lawl, i used to listen to them all the time before i started listening to good music.

i dont even think i have a top 5 for metalcore, still so much new **** ive been listening to recently

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;17231567]Life In Your Way (debatably just melodic hardcore)
shai hulud (also debatably just melodic hardcore)
[/QUOTE]
Sorry dude, but no.

Listen to Omerta and Final Fight on repeat. Then listen to those bands on repeat.

Not the same thing.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;17231648]Sorry dude, but no.

Listen to Omerta and Final Fight on repeat. Then listen to those bands on repeat.

Not the same thing.[/QUOTE]

i will but i adore those bands haha

They're still metalcore, just more on the hardcore side of things.

I suck at choosing my favourite bands etc. I'm just really indecisive but idk my favourite metalcore would probably be:

Converge
Fear Before The March of Flames (would they count as metalcore?)
Poison The Well
Skycamefalling
Botch

[QUOTE=SlightlyEpic;17231872]I suck at choosing my favourite bands etc. I'm just really indecisive but idk my favourite metalcore would probably be:

Converge
Fear Before The March of Flames (would they count as metalcore?)
Poison The Well
Skycamefalling
Botch[/QUOTE]

FBTMF's early stuff is metalcore

I'd count their first two albums as metalcore.

never really cared for them

Art Damage is a good, interesting take on Botch.

[QUOTE=thomasj12e34;17231962]never really cared for them[/QUOTE]

Same, they get on my nerves.

listening to flesh and blood robot right now

good band

[quote=hismajestythepope;17231105]False.

Botch is comparatively as good as Converge.[/quote]
oh come on

Converge owns Botch imo.

by miles.

yeah i largely prefer Converge over Botch.

Yeah Converge > Botch.

Botch is still cool though