[QUOTE=SonorKen]I forgot what his octave range is, its either 4.5 or 6. Its very similiar to Maynards. I believe Maynards is 5. Anyone know for a fact what it is? Also, Seth's vocal coach was the guy on MythBusters who can actually shatter a glass with his natural voice![/QUOTE]
Wow that's really cool.

Maynard has nowhere near 5 octaves. That's like Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey.

When I had just started out on guitar last year, I jammed with that guy who I posted a song of and basically blew any chance of ever doing it again, mainly because I was basically worthless at the time. :p I ask him every once in a while if he has any free time to jam, but he's always busy. Funny thing is when I don't ask him, he's always bored out of his mind!


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Oh, and I think Maynard has at most 3 or 3.5. :confused: Guitars have 4, and that's an extreme sound going from the open low E to the 24 fret on the high E string.

Just wait for him to say he's bored.

Back on the whole Tool theme. I am listening to Eulogy right now, hae you noticed how Carey's snare strikes differ from one another. The majority of them are direct center of snare strikes but there are a few that are not and sound different. I think this shows alot about musicianship and them not having producers pro-tooling the crap out of their recordings.

Listen to the snare strikes in Eulogy, you'll see what Im talking about. I think it adds alot of character to the song.

Surprisingly, I have noticed that on Eulogy. Carey's playing has really shown me just how dynamic drums are, and how hard it is do control them.

Do you throw in little things like that in your playing, Ken?

The same thing happens with the snare on schism, check out the verses for what I mean

speaking of eulogy, i wonder whose playing wat sounds in the beggining, especially that glass tapping, man that gets implanted in your brain

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, and I think Maynard has at most 3 or 3.5. :confused: Guitars have 4, and that's an extreme sound going from the open low E to the 24 fret on the high E string.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm thats pretty cool then that Seth has right above 4.

I hear it.... I never noticed it before but, yeah.

'Bout the snare that is.

Is Danny doing that entire polyrythm during the intro of Eulogy? I can only play the first part with 2 hands. :p I think that part is coming through the left ear, then the more metallic sounding object comes in through the right. they could be both panned on center, but I think they're panned to each ear..

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Listen to the snare strikes in Eulogy, you'll see what Im talking about. I think it adds alot of character to the song.[/QUOTE]
I think he exemplifies that with his stuff in Volto.

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ok people, if you had to pick one tool song as your favorite, for watever reason, which one would it be? as a beggining bass player, my favorite is schism, because its quite a challenge to play. now that i think about it, it is really hard to chose one song as a favorite. Tool just has so many good songs, and heck, their all challenging in bass

Can't even tell you how many times we've done that SubCOnsciousFeer.

yeah. ive been playing for a year and am still working on schism, mainly cause I dont have bass effects:(

Danny does some cool hip-hop stuff in Eulogy.

Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?

i really want to get a wammy pedal, since when justin uses it, it sounds so cool

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Surprisingly, I have noticed that on Eulogy. Carey's playing has really shown me just how dynamic drums are, and how hard it is do control them.

Do you throw in little things like that in your playing, Ken?[/QUOTE]
I don't think Carey intentionally did that tho. I tend to play more ghost notes than Carey does. I love accenting drum fills with small little ghost notes. I tend to try to write drum patterns in odd patterns. The first song on the myspace account is actually wrote around patterns of 3. It has a very odd time signature which changes from measure to measure. I need to sit down and solidify the drum track for that song but havent had the time. When I get back from the beach I plan to spend quite a bit of time in our studio working on perfecting the drum tracks.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?[/QUOTE]
Ye but they are just to pricy. Am short on cash on the moment too. Am gonna save up for a pedal I saw on muscicians friend

I'd rather have a chorus pedal if I played bass. It seems more used in Justin's playing.

Ken- Yeah, those kinds of things are what make good drummers great. See Meshuggah's Stengah for some great, layered drumming. Sure, the drumming is amazing enough, but when you really concentrate on the drumming, you can hear these ghosts on the snare. Haake does that quite a bit, probably one of the reasons he is considered one of the genres great drummers.

Oh geeze, more Meshuggah talk. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Is Danny doing that entire polyrythm during the intro of Eulogy? I can only play the first part with 2 hands. :p I think that part is coming through the left ear, then the more metallic sounding object comes in through the right. they could be both panned on center, but I think they're panned to each ear..[/QUOTE]

Thats a difficult question to answer. Alot of it is patterns that he has put together in strings to run together. Some of the actual patterns that he plays are with the Roland Handsonic. The Handsonic is phenominal because it will allow you to play up to 10 to 12 different rhythms at one time. You use all 10 of your fingers and your feet. I believe the majority of the intro to this is all strung out in (man, I am having a brain fart, I can't think of the word for a string of pre-arranged music) strings or pre-arranged music that he triggers the beginning and end.

If you listen to the recording you will hear the tabla type beats continue. This could be done as overdubbing in the studio but I have heard it played live and it is identical to the recording. He was playing the Handsonic when I saw them live in 92.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Did you ever look for a BP pedal, Herb?

Moses- That is one of my favorite parts of Aenima. "You claimed that all this time you would die for me."

I assume you're talking about that part, right?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that and a couple others.

I'm doing the polyrhythm right now with my foot as the cymbal type part. On my computer desk of course.

Oh, yeah yeah, that's right. I remember hearing about that Handsonic. Are you thinking of the word loop? :p So, when he plays it live, he just puts the Handsonic on a loop?

Ok, I know I'm the usually the resident tone whore around here, but I have been stumped- The intro of H.? How the hell does he get such a 'wet' tone? I'm talking about before the clean part, the very first riff played. It sounds like a different amp, or a fuzz/grunge pedal of some sort?

Am gonna get a pedal with pretty much all needed.

Dont you ****ing lie! High points of aenima!

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I'd rather have a chorus pedal if I played bass. It seems more used in Justin's playing.

Ken- Yeah, those kinds of things are what make good drummers great. See Meshuggah's Stengah for some great, layered drumming. Sure, the drumming is amazing enough, but when you really concentrate on the drumming, you can hear these ghosts on the snare. Haake does that quite a bit, probably one of the reasons he is considered one of the genres great drummers.

Oh geeze, more Meshuggah talk. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

THe thing I love about ghost notes are they are actually felt and not heard when played properly. You know something was played, you feel it, but you didn't hear it. When I do my sound check before a show I always make sure my sound engineer sets up my snare for Ghost notes.

mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Oh, yeah yeah, that's right. I remember hearing about that Handsonic. Are you thinking of the word loop? :p So, when he plays it live, he just puts the Handsonic on a loop?[/QUOTE]
hahahaha yea, loops! My god. There is another word for it too, I use it in my Roland gear!

I plan to use my SPDS to create and run some of my major loops and use the D-beam controller on the Handsonic to start and stop some of the more laid back drum beats. I have always wanted a Handsonic but couldnt ever really justify buying one. Now that Crutch is poised to take off huge I can justify spending the 1000 bucks for one!

Nice avatar Ken. That's a cool design.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Seth- Glad to see you posting here. Here are a few links to what we need vocals on.

Part of Me
Lateralus
Stinkfist

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/thelachrymologists_music.htm[/url]

They call all be downloaded there. They aren't full insturmentals yet. Part of Me is only my guitar part, but we have drums, they've just not been uploaded yet. Lateralus has a drum track, and we've got the guitars coming. Stinkfist has my guitar track, which is out of time, and a good drum track. If you have AIM, add DrJakeDestructo, or on msn you can reach me at spiralout7 @ gmail.com.[/QUOTE]

Bump'd for Seth.

7 octaves, holy christ. :amaze: She does have that wierd whine thing though. :-/ Still extremely impressive.

[QUOTE=breakyourCrutch]mariah carey has 7. Jim gillette has the most with 8[/QUOTE]
Well not counting those squeaking notes she should have 5 am I right? I only hear Maynard use about 2 or 3 but with excellent control. Tarja from Nightwish has only two but has amazing control.