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Txus 05-17-2006 08:08 PM

Didn't see that storm, sorry...But yeah, BRI is an awesome song. My favorite Opeth song is To Bid Your Farewell though.

Stormrider 05-17-2006 08:12 PM

I said in my post that I loved it.

Theres this part I really love:

I have Kept it
The Awakenth symbol
Hidden Inside [B]the Golden Shrine[/B]
Until we rejoiced in the meadow
Of the end
When we both walk the shadows
It will set ablaze and vanish

That riff behind that part is amazing. Bold part is soo awsome.

Toaster 05-17-2006 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]There's some killer riffs in there though, you have to admit...[/QUOTE]

Definitely. I just think there are too many pointless parts, too many forgettable parts, and not nearly enough continuity.

Moses 05-17-2006 10:05 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]How did you go about getting those? I'm really interested in doing the same (more arranging, actually), although I'm not quite sure where to look.[/QUOTE]
I found my teacher through word of mouth. She's a really good teacher and her students won all kinds of stuff. I started taking them around October and they've helped me out alot. Before that I got 2nd in a state-wide composition competition though.

I appreciate BRI but in retrospect. It's definately a mishmash of things.

Darkness 05-17-2006 10:12 PM

I think it actually flows rather nicely, even if the parts are all different. I like that. I really don't care how amaturish it is from a professional song writing point of view, it's an excellent song. [I]Very[/I] epic.

Moses 05-17-2006 10:21 PM

It really depends on my mood. Sometimes the lapses will bother me and somtimes they won't.

BurningSky 05-17-2006 10:27 PM

My favorite part of BRI is the "it will set ablaze and then vanish" part, because of the way it goes acoustic as Mike is singing the word vanish. Very powerful piece of music...

i am the robots 05-17-2006 11:17 PM

I know it's already old news so to speak, but I actually think Lopez leaving will be good... I mean, he's a gread drummer, and he was good in the band... but he never quite fit how well Nordin did on the first two releases... in a lot of songs ([I]Benighted[/I] for example) he did stuff that was like, eh... could be better. Knowing Axe's pedegree I'm pretty psyched about him being in the band.

Dannyboy15 05-18-2006 12:31 AM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]I know it's already old news so to speak, but I actually think Lopez leaving will be good... I mean, he's a gread drummer, and he was good in the band... but he never quite fit how well Nordin did on the first two releases... in a lot of songs ([I]Benighted[/I] for example) he did stuff that was like, eh... could be better. Knowing Axe's pedegree I'm pretty psyched about him being in the band.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean "like eh?" Sometimes certain songs call for a certain kind of playing.

Darkness 05-18-2006 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]I know it's already old news so to speak, but I actually think Lopez leaving will be good... I mean, he's a gread drummer, and he was good in the band... but he never quite fit how well Nordin did on the first two releases... in a lot of songs ([I]Benighted[/I] for example) he did stuff that was like, eh... could be better. Knowing Axe's pedegree I'm pretty psyched about him being in the band.[/QUOTE]
Nordin didn't fit well at all. He wasn't very good IMO. Martin was much, much better.

Deth 05-18-2006 04:16 PM

Lopez leaving won't make Mikeal write any differently, so there won't be a change of direction like some people are hoping for. Plus, Lopez made every song better in my opinion, so his loss isn't good in any way.

Crysiss 05-18-2006 04:18 PM

I agree. At times, he was too basic or tried to do too much.

It was all too much the same.

Det_Nosnip 05-18-2006 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]I found my teacher through word of mouth. She's a really good teacher and her students won all kinds of stuff. I started taking them around October and they've helped me out alot. Before that I got 2nd in a state-wide composition competition though.

I appreciate BRI but in retrospect. It's definately a mishmash of things.[/QUOTE]

Cool, I'll look around then. A friend of mine is doing post-grad at a University here in Chicago...maybe I'll ask her if she knows anyone. Although I would say that I'm picking up on stuff fairly quickly (I got my keyboard about a year ago), there are alot of things that I'm sure would go faster with an instructor. E.g: orchestrating brass and woodwinds. :(

UpperDecker 05-18-2006 04:56 PM

I really hope they find someone whose style is similar to Lopez. I like how he had sort of a tribal sound in some songs. My favorite drumming by him is probably the end of Deliverance, i just really like that drumming for some reason.

Det_Nosnip 05-18-2006 05:14 PM

Probably because it's badass. Well, they're not going to "find" anyone...they're just staying with bland ole Axenrot.

Darkness 05-18-2006 06:41 PM

Axe is good...

eighty d 05-18-2006 07:23 PM

I think it's a bit premature to call Axe bland. No one's heard how he would play in a band like Opeth. The only thing I've heard him play on, besides this Opeth tour, is Bloodbath's Nightmares Made Flesh. And I think the drumming fits perfectly on that album.

i am the robots 05-18-2006 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Probably because it's badass. Well, they're not going to "find" anyone...they're just staying with bland ole Axenrot.[/QUOTE]

/listens to [I]Outnumbering the Day[/I]... that's definately [I]not[/I] bland.

If you were listening to [I]Ressurrected Through Carnage[/I] I would call the drumming bland, but that was Dan Swano, not Axe.

Deth 05-18-2006 07:36 PM

Problem being of course, drumming in Bloodbath and Opeth is completely different. I love the drumming on Nightmares Made Flesh, but I don't know how his mellow parts would be.

i am the robots 05-18-2006 07:38 PM

He can do some pretty varied stuff I'm sure.... otherwise they wouldn't have chosen him, I mean, I doubt Peter, Mike, Martin, and Per would want a one trick horse in their band, being known for playing such varied styles.

Daven 05-18-2006 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=Deth]Problem being of course, drumming in Bloodbath and Opeth is completely different. I love the drumming on Nightmares Made Flesh, but I don't know how his mellow parts would be.[/QUOTE]

That's what i loved about MArtin Lopez, his mellow parts were incredible.

Deth 05-18-2006 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]Didn't he drum for Katatonia as well though?
[/QUOTE]
Witchery. The guitarist and bass player are from Katatonia.

i am the robots 05-18-2006 07:42 PM

Yeah, I just looked that up on metal archives, my bad :p.

[QUOTE=Daven]That's what i loved about MArtin Lopez, his mellow parts were incredible.[/QUOTE]

Credence anybody?

Deth 05-18-2006 07:46 PM

I like the outro to Closure the best out of his mellow parts.

i am the robots 05-18-2006 08:09 PM

I was wrong actually... I was thinking Nordin played on My Arms Your Hearse, and then I was listening to Damnation.... Lopez is damn good. Axe will be a fine replacement though.

TojesDolan 05-19-2006 12:12 AM

Wow, bee out of the internet a long while, let me see what I can find about this Axe man and whatever internet has to tell me about my beloved Opeth. :(

gmoneyguy 05-19-2006 01:27 AM

WE are really going to wait until the next album to really say if Axenrot is a good fit or not. I pretty sure he'll be able to adapt and still add some good stuff to Opeth.

Slapping Penguin 05-19-2006 04:14 AM

When people scremed for BRI at a concert he said "You only all like that f-ing song because its 20 minutes. You wanna see us suffer."

Well I love BRI, yes it jumpy but who cares.

PS: Does anyone elses Morningrise drums like jump between speakers. Like on second the ride is one the left then halfway way it jumps too the right.

[QUOTE]I like the outro to Closure the best out of his mellow parts.[/QUOTE]

When Axe played that live he added double kicks on the very last time it sounded cool.

Jude 05-19-2006 08:40 AM

I don't know if Axenrot is good or not. Det Nosnip seems to hate him though. Why's that?

But I will definitely miss Lopez's style. Nobody else is like him.

Back to BRI for a moment. I think it's the acoustic sections that make that song. The heavy riffs vary from tolerable to awesome, but mostly in between. The solo towards the end is also great. And the riff from 1:10 to 3:10 owns everything. But overall, the acoustic parts and vocal melodies are the highlights of the song. They are nearly all amazing, whereas the metal parts are average.

JamJar 05-19-2006 09:32 AM

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin]PS: Does anyone elses Morningrise drums like jump between speakers. Like on second the ride is one the left then halfway way it jumps too the right.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, mine does. The production on that album is awful, it really disrupts the listening for me.


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