yea yea, definately. well, more emo-influenced than plain emo. i really dont likethat song. its the only trivvers song i never listen to.

That's what I meant, emo-influenced. One more thing to add:Heafy looks like a damn monkey.

It's my favorite song from them, I mean I still like the rest of the album, but the vocals bring down the songs a lot.

a gunshot to the head of trepidation is my fave metal track of the new millenium. i love the guitar work. trivium i think are quite repetitive however gunshot being the standout track.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]I meant that Dying in Your Arms is more, well emo then the rest of the songs from that album.[/QUOTE]

Declaration and Departure are more emo IMO.

Not that I would say any Trivium is emo because the general message of songs such as DIYA is that you always have the choice to "break free" etc

Declaration, emo?

It's nothing like emo. It's more thrash. I love that pre-chorus riff so much.

yeah, and it's certainly not more emo than DIYA. but then, as i have said before, the lyric in Declaration, "bear witness to me" is sung in a very emo-esque way.

Well considering the lyrics for departure are:

"this weight is so unbearable caving in my lungs
all my life is flashing in front of my eyes
run away from all the pain run away and hide"

I think it's slightly more emo than:

"when i shoved you far away now i live the life i dreamed of you're dead to me"

God, the word emo is being thrown around too much and it's annoying. I never used to like Trivium, and I call anyone who listens to Trivium an emo becaue I like their reactions to it, but I don't seriously think they actually are. Just because he sings melodically sometimes...

Quick question. Has Matt and Cory switched to Dean guitars for good? I'll miss the Les Paul if they did.

I thought they were only alowd to use them for that one tour.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I thought they were only alowd to use them for that one tour.[/QUOTE]
Man, I hope so. I personally don't like MLs unless Dime is playing them.

I don't like them at all, so I guess I can agree. Corey's V is nice.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I don't like them at all, so I guess I can agree. Corey's V is nice.[/QUOTE]Amen

They are using them since Dime's widow gave them to them.

I really like the new direction Trivium is going in! Well thrash. And DIYA is not an emo song.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]They are using them since Dime's widow gave them to them.[/QUOTE]

That's what I read, but also that she'd let them use them for that tour.
It was in a Guitar World mag I believe.

[QUOTE=SimonCore]I really like the new direction Trivium is going in! Well thrash. And DIYA is not an emo song.[/QUOTE]

No one ever said it was emo, just that it sounds emo-influenced. And I was saying it sounds emo because of the guitar riffs and the sound of his vocals, not the lyrics, I really don't pay too much attention to lyrics unless they actually take quite a bit of thought, like LOG's. (not saying that Trivium's didn't take thought).

DIYA has direct roots with Matt's early Pop-punk stage. It's really as simple as that.

I'm going to make a drumtab for Pull Harder On The Strings of Your Martyr, does anyone have a recommendation for a tab editing program?

Drum tab editting programs aren't really necessary. Thought, I do remember having one a long time ago. I think I stopped using it because it was a trial or something.

You should probably just write it out in sheet music anyways. It's far easier to read.

[QUOTE=Huber]Drum tab editting programs aren't really necessary. Thought, I do remember having one a long time ago. I think I stopped using it because it was a trial or something.

You should probably just write it out in sheet music anyways. It's far easier to read.[/QUOTE]

No dude I was thinking about posting it on mxtabs. Plus I'm getting kind of rusty with my musical theory. I don't know if I will remember how to write it as good as I could tab it.

O yeah what the hell happened with that? I heard they made tabs illegal but now mxtabs is back up and running.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]God, the word emo is being thrown around too much and it's annoying. I never used to like Trivium, and I call anyone who listens to Trivium an emo becaue I like their reactions to it, but I don't seriously think they actually are. Just because he sings melodically sometimes...[/QUOTE]


I dont think they are anywhere near emo.
In fact quite the opposite; a lot of their songs deal with coping things the best you can and taking a possitive outlook on things.

How can you say the lyrics to Gunshot or Pull Harder are emo?

And nor do i understand how you can label a band emo because they dont scream 99.99% of the time

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]I'm going to make a drumtab for Pull Harder On The Strings of Your Martyr, does anyone have a recommendation for a tab editing program?[/QUOTE]

Make sure you do it properly and include the 2 bar drum fill leading into the last pre-chorus.

Unlike those slack-arse people that have submitted to mxtabs :p

Hey is there any way to get the audio off of that Detonation video posted earlier into an mp3 or something. I would like to put it on my mp3 player if there is a way.

just because they scream doesnt mean they are emo

trivium are far from emo, they sing about how to deal with things and such

and im glad that they arent screaming much on the next one because Matt has a great voice. i like it much better and he is just singing

[QUOTE=Grumma]Make sure you do it properly and include the 2 bar drum fill leading into the last pre-chorus.

Unlike those slack-arse people that have submitted to mxtabs :p[/QUOTE]

Oh don't worry I'm about tired of those half-a$$ed sh1tty tabs i see allover the place. I haven't done many tabs, but I think this will be damn close to the real thing. Also, to be fair. Pull Harder is a fairly difficult drum part to tell what the drummer is playing.

O yeah, might be a dumbass ?, but what would a 2 bar fill be?

Still, any recommendations for a tab editing program anyone?

[QUOTE=SimonCore]I really like the new direction Trivium is going in! Well thrash. And DIYA is not an emo song.[/QUOTE]
no, it has emo influences though. logdrummer said it right.

[QUOTE=Grumma]Well considering the lyrics for departure are:

"this weight is so unbearable caving in my lungs
all my life is flashing in front of my eyes
run away from all the pain run away and hide"

I think it's slightly more emo than:

"when i shoved you far away now i live the life i dreamed of you're dead to me"[/QUOTE]
absolutely. i was just saying, there is an emo element in Declaration.[QUOTE=MRDuCran]God, the word emo is being thrown around too much and it's annoying. I never used to like Trivium, and I call anyone who listens to Trivium an emo becaue I like their reactions to it, but I don't seriously think they actually are. Just because he sings melodically sometimes...[/QUOTE]
its not the melody to it, its his tone, pronunciation.
[QUOTE=Grumma]I dont think they are anywhere near emo.
In fact quite the opposite; a lot of their songs deal with coping things the best you can and taking a possitive outlook on things.

How can you say the lyrics to Gunshot or Pull Harder are emo?

And nor do i understand how you can label a band emo because they dont scream 99.99% of the time[/QUOTE]
those two songs arnt emo, nor are any trivium songs. however, DIYA is certainly emoinfluenced.

[QUOTE=Rattlehead]no, it has emo influences though. logdrummer said it right.


absolutely. i was just saying, there is an emo element in Declaration.
its not the melody to it, its his tone, pronunciation.

those two songs arnt emo, nor are any trivium songs. however, DIYA is certainly emoinfluenced.[/QUOTE]


1. Yeah DIYA has emo influences to some extent. Though I prefer to judge emo moreso on the lyrical content than how it sounds

2. once again looking more at the lyrics than the tone of the song

3. yeah dont know whether you noticed or not (you probably did) but it was a rhetorical question and a good example of the un-emoness of Trivium

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]Oh don't worry I'm about tired of those half-a$$ed sh1tty tabs i see allover the place. I haven't done many tabs, but I think this will be damn close to the real thing. Also, to be fair. Pull Harder is a fairly difficult drum part to tell what the drummer is playing.

O yeah, might be a dumbass ?, but what would a 2 bar fill be?

Still, any recommendations for a tab editing program anyone?[/QUOTE]

Pull Harder isnt TOO hard. just be wary of the difference in toms and china/crash cymbals. Also the tempo seems to change a fair bit.

The fill is in the last part of the song where Matt screams "PULL! HARDER!"
and first Trav doesnt do anything then does a fill involving the toms, snare and crashes (and probably bass as well)
Every tab Ive seen excludes this part

[QUOTE=Grumma]Pull Harder isnt TOO hard. just be wary of the difference in toms and china/crash cymbals. Also the tempo seems to change a fair bit.

The fill is in the last part of the song where Matt screams "PULL! HARDER!"
and first Trav doesnt do anything then does a fill involving the toms, snare and crashes (and probably bass as well)
Every tab Ive seen excludes this part[/QUOTE]

Oh I knew what fill you were talking about, I was just trying to figure out why you called it a 2 bar fill. Do you mean a 2 measure fill...? Yeah I wasn't saying Pull Harder was extremely hard, so many songs that are much harder to tab. It's just trying to find out when he is hitting the toms, and like you said the difference between each symbol and tom. All in all it's not really complicated to play. That "2 bar fill" as you call it really isn't hard to play I know what he is doing there, I don't know if you're a drummer or not so... That fill is nothing compared to Chris Adler's "Ruin Fill"-played insanely fast.

If you read my post in the Lamb of God thread, the same opinion for them applies to Trivium as well. The only difference is that Trivium are pretty decent musicians actually.

Morgoth - Body Count -- Cursed [03:36m/160Kbps/44KHz] - 1993

[QUOTE=Aronax]If you read my post in the Lamb of God thread, the same opinion for them applies to Trivium as well. The only difference is that Trivium are pretty decent musicians actually.

Morgoth - Body Count -- Cursed [03:36m/160Kbps/44KHz] - 1993[/QUOTE]

Ok, so now LOG's member aren't talented musicians now? I would like to see you play half the stuff they can instrumentally. Willie and Morton aren't guitar gods, but they are solid metal guitarists, and bring in their own creative and unique riffs. Chris is a drum "god" if you would ask me. I haven't heard any other band that puts as much stuff as he does into his playing. Blythe brings in brutal vocals, with intelligent lyrics, and he varies from high to low pitches, unlike many thrash and death metal vocalists. Musicianship is about a lot more than just talent, my friend. Trivium is a very talented band also, they are more than just "decent".

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer]Ok, so now LOG's member aren't talented musicians now? I would like to see you play half the stuff they can instrumentally. Willie and Morton aren't guitar gods, but they are solid metal guitarists, and bring in their own creative and unique riffs. Chris is a drum "god" if you would ask me. I haven't heard any other band that puts as much stuff as he does into his playing. [B]Blythe brings in brutal vocals, with intelligent lyrics, and he varies from high to low pitches, unlike many thrash and death metal vocalists.[/B] Musicianship is about a lot more than just talent, my friend. Trivium is a very talented band also, they are more than just "decent".[/QUOTE]

Eh...you seem a little ignorant. Especially about the bolded. I really like Randy Blythe's voice, but it isn't any more powerful than a lot of others'.

[QUOTE=lamb_of_goddrummer] That "2 bar fill" as you call it really isn't hard to play I know what he is doing there, I don't know if you're a drummer or not so... [/QUOTE]

Yeah Im a drummer: got the whole song down except for that because i havent been able to get the timing or what [b]exactly[/b] he's playing.

My ear for music is pretty **** so yeah . . .

[QUOTE=Huber]Eh...you seem a little ignorant. Especially about the bolded. I really like Randy Blythe's voice, but it isn't any more powerful than a lot of others'.[/QUOTE]

Not so much ignorant, but biased. And quite uninformed.

[QUOTE=Grumma]1. Yeah DIYA has emo influences to some extent. Though I prefer to judge emo moreso on the lyrical content than how it sounds

2. once again looking more at the lyrics than the tone of the song

3. yeah dont know whether you noticed or not (you probably did) but it was a rhetorical question and a good example of the un-emoness of Trivium[/QUOTE]

Trivium is definately not an 'emo' band, compared to actualy emo bands.

I think thats been established lol

Because thats exactly what everyones been saying for about the last 5 pages :lol:

I know. I'm just too tired to care.

Haha fair enough

Anyway Trivium arent emo

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