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Screamin_Demon_Auz 12-25-2008 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=Ksama;16908719]Screamin Demon Auz, where in Ohio do you live?[/QUOTE]

I coach in Athens and sometimes Columbus.

kdash 01-05-2009 08:01 PM

I seem to have having endurance problems because of work. I can't seem to sing songs with high notes consecutively, sometimes i can't even finish one from start to finish, but individually i can hit the notes. Its like after a while my throat wants to quinch up. And when i sing medium pitch songs after a while my voice doesn't seem as bright. Is there any way to improve my endurance.

hiddengirl 01-16-2009 01:01 PM

Im a vocalist, and Im trying to improve my voice. Anyone know of any sites which may help?

Cheers,

Tonii.xo.

aworldofviolets 03-15-2009 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=kdash;17006235]I seem to have having endurance problems because of work. I can't seem to sing songs with high notes consecutively, sometimes i can't even finish one from start to finish, but individually i can hit the notes. Its like after a while my throat wants to quinch up. And when i sing medium pitch songs after a while my voice doesn't seem as bright. Is there any way to improve my endurance.[/QUOTE]

It sounds like you're singing out of your range, sing songs with lower notes for a while and if everything clears itself up

sweet_nothings 03-16-2009 03:35 AM

[QUOTE=kdash;17006235]I seem to have having endurance problems because of work. I can't seem to sing songs with high notes consecutively, sometimes i can't even finish one from start to finish, but individually i can hit the notes. Its like after a while my throat wants to quinch up. And when i sing medium pitch songs after a while my voice doesn't seem as bright. Is there any way to improve my endurance.[/QUOTE]

Is there any strain when you hit the high notes one-off? If there is, you're doing it wrong and you've got to stop and get your technique right first.

The larynx is a muscle like any other, and you've got to build up endurance. Warm up and warm down before and after singing, do scales across the entirety of your range.

Michael Willow 03-19-2009 05:20 AM

For anyone who is interested to read a few things about screamo voice here is a post

http://miketheblacksheep.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/is-the-screamo-singing-dangerous-for-the-vocal-chords/

hismajestythepope 04-17-2009 12:44 AM

"screamo voice"

You mean purposefully making your voice crack while yelling without any regard for your voice?

kitsch 04-27-2009 07:12 PM

lol

kitsch 06-26-2009 07:02 PM

any one have tipz to make me sing like taylor swift

she is such a brave young woman and i want to upload a youtube tribute

iamtherobots 07-10-2009 06:47 PM

Critique dis brahs:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvMRN_O6s7g[/url]

HOW COOL AM I?!

Primergrey 07-17-2009 03:23 AM

I'm a screaming vocalist. I'd like to say that I'm pretty good, but the problem is I have to warm up quite a bit before I can get the sound I desire out of my voice. What are someways I can learn to either a) skip that step entirely, or b) warm up quickly.

Primergrey 07-17-2009 03:25 AM

I'm a screaming vocalist. I'd like to say that I'm pretty good, but the problem is I have to warm up quite a bit before I can get the sound I desire out of my voice. What are someways I can learn to either a) skip that step entirely, or b) warm up quickly.

BuddhaOnTheMoon 07-17-2009 11:39 AM

woops

Adrienne Osborn 08-05-2009 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=Ashford;16506606]I've been going back 40+ pages and reading all the tips, doing the vocal warm-ups etc but for some reason I still sound flat when I sing. I can hear the notes fine but when I try to reproduce them, I just sound emotionless :/ My vocals sound pretty weak as well and I was thinking a vibrato would help but I haven't been able to sing with one despite all the warm-ups. Anyone with any ideas on how to work on these issues?[/QUOTE]
Ashford, maybe you could post a recorded sample of your voice to help us hear what's going on?

Adrienne Osborn 08-05-2009 08:52 AM

[QUOTE=Otter;16508125][url]http://www.supload.com/music/Operation-Frantic-Far-Away-ringtone-download-R037VOGBCXAQ.html[/url]

Ok so they is my somewhat poor attempt at singing . I was wondering if anyone could give some tips on how to improve myself ?[/QUOTE]
Otter, don't be so hard on yourself. You are doing a lot of things right. Nice selective vibrato, nice control, sounds good. You don't stay perfectly on key throughout the song, but I'm sure you do when accompanied.

To make this better I'd suggest a couple of things:

- Less tension at loud volumes, because sometimes it starts to approach a bit of a shout. When I want volume like that, I think about moving the tension from my throat down into my belly (where it becomes "support" instead of tension). The descriptions like "it feels like when you are going to the bathroom" or sneezing or coughing are right on. Try putting a hand on your belly and a hand on your back and coughing to feel the muscles engage.

- More dynamics (loud vs. soft). This is a touching song! Find places to be gentler, like you do at the end of the word at 0:48.

Are there other specific things you believe need improvement?

iamtherobots 08-05-2009 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=Primergrey;17370270]I'm a screaming vocalist. I'd like to say that I'm pretty good, but the problem is I have to warm up quite a bit before I can get the sound I desire out of my voice. What are someways I can learn to either a) skip that step entirely, or b) warm up quickly.[/QUOTE]

lol gtfo with that noise, if you dont wanna do it right, youre gonna hurt yourself

Romulus 08-10-2009 10:22 PM

So I'm the vocalist of my band and I feel like if I wanna get to the next level from pretty decent to a good solid vocalist I need to improve my overall tone. My range is my strength, but sometimes I can sound just like I'm talking in different pitches. Is there something I can do to help with this, besides practice and repetition?

roflmonstercopter 08-20-2009 01:27 PM

here is someone who can give you advice..
 
http://www.myspace.com/skylinerising

this isn't me spaming,
if you have any vocal questions,
studio questions.
whatever,
this is an artist you are free to speak with,
and listen and support his music at the same time.

thank you <3

Sparkmouth 10-19-2009 08:48 PM

Can anyone help this guy? myspace.com/randallwainscottmusic.com

SomiAgow73 10-23-2009 04:24 AM

TheOFFICIALVoice/Singing Help Thread
 
Thanks for the tips

Im about halfway into a track that I think sounds good right now

Ill post it up here after i get the vocals in

thanks again

iskabal 10-23-2009 02:03 PM

hey guys.. im just new here..! is there anyone here write songs that melody comes first before the lyrics? can anyone teach me a technique? please.. but i got a standard vocalizing.!

DaveStep15 12-09-2009 06:31 AM

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[QUOTE=Rocket_Science;8862171]I am trying to improve my singing--specifically my pitch. Does anyone know of any videos or preferably something interactive, like software that can help?[/QUOTE]

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Good Luck :)
Dave

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kidthatplaysguitar91 12-27-2009 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=romgsom;17426624]So I'm the vocalist of my band and I feel like if I wanna get to the next level from pretty decent to a good solid vocalist I need to improve my overall tone. My range is my strength, but sometimes I can sound just like I'm talking in different pitches. Is there something I can do to help with this, besides practice and repetition?[/QUOTE]

You really have to put emotion into singing. The two most important parts of being a singer are pitch and emotion, if you have those two, you can fool anyone into thinking you're a good singer, no matter how big your range is. So if you have the pitch, emotion AND technique, thats what makes a good singer into a great singer. So work on rasp techniques, certain amounts of breathiness, and just sing along to songs.

kidthatplaysguitar91 12-27-2009 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=iskabal;17592266]hey guys.. im just new here..! is there anyone here write songs that melody comes first before the lyrics? can anyone teach me a technique? please.. but i got a standard vocalizing.![/QUOTE]

I sometimes get the melody and then after write lyrics. Thats literally all you do. It takes more time creating unique interesting lyrics, but it can be worth it. The other way around with writing lyrics first will take more time writing the melody.

Each way has its plusses and minuses.

Romulus 01-03-2010 03:19 PM

Thanks man, I've been working and hopefully I can get the hang of it soon

singinghelp 01-12-2010 08:52 PM

Singing Help with Emotion
 
[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91;17721121]You really have to put emotion into singing.[/QUOTE]

Agree with this opinion. I think what make singing great is that it can connect between he or she with the audience. If you really put emotion into the scene, you can make something magnificent on the stage.

jckychng 01-15-2010 02:09 AM

hey i hope you can take some time to check out my friend at

http://www.myspace.com/aliavery

she's a great singer (many of our friends say so) but is a bit shy about showing off her work. it'd be great if you can listen to her songs and lemme know what you think! (which might lead to a confidence boost for her?)

Spec 01-25-2010 10:59 PM

pinch your throat, dont know what it means but rody walker told me to do it

plookey 02-05-2010 12:21 AM

[QUOTE=iskabal;17592266]hey guys.. im just new here..! is there anyone here write songs that melody comes first before the lyrics? can anyone teach me a technique? please.. but i got a standard vocalizing.![/QUOTE]

I'm new here as well, and for me the melody always comes first...I suppose it's because I would probably classify myself as a musician first and a songwriter secondly. On the rare occasion that I do come across a good lyric to flesh out into a song...it's almost always the hook or chorus.

AydinHumphries91 03-28-2010 03:06 PM

I have more than one question really in regards to singing but I thought it would be wise to give a little insight into my history as a musician; I actually do, and always have liked a variety of music from Chopin to Dizzee Rascal to Trivium. However I was trained to play piano in a classical style from the age of 9 or 10 (I'm 18 now). I consider myself a good pianist and am doing grade 8this wednesday, actually. I am an equally good percussionist (play tuned percussion as well as drums).

However the problem is that I have not really learnt how to LISTEN. I have always [I]read [/I] music and being a pianist, I do not need to hear how the notes should sound before playing them as you would do on a trumpet, for example. My knowledge of music theory is pretty solid and I know about dominant 7ths, diminished 7ths chords, etc and modes but have difficulty recognising these (not when played in isolation but in the context of music). I recently picked up the jazz piano book by Mark Levine and it is an excellent book, however improvisation is a little difficult if you can't play what you can hear in your head on the keyboard. So this was why I decided to practice sight singing; http://www.lightandmatter.com/sight/sight.pdf (this site is an invaluable source if you have similar difficulties to myself).

I notice that the original poster doesn't seem to post here anymore but perhaps there are some other local experts. Due to my increased interest in jazz over the past year or so I thought it would be an excellent idea to learn how to sing properly and maybe even scat. Since I have decided to sight-sing melodies, I thought it was perhaps worthwhile to learn the proper technique. I have been reading around, getting information about breathing into the diaphragm, etc. One particularly useful tip was about the tongue gagging the back of the throat; practice saying the 'ng' in sing and see if you can feel the tongue on the back of the throat. The tip of the tongue is in the correct position (touching the teeth) but the tongue should not be gagging you. Practice saying 'ng' then 'aah' (with the tongue in the same position, touching the teeth/bottom gum line). THe 'aah' is the correct tongue positioning. Well I have hear that one should sing in solfege but when I do this I find it difficult to keep my tonguein the right place. Should one try not to emphasise the consonants? Also it is hard to keep the mouth wide enough (to fit two fingers in vertically) when repeatedly singing consonants. Consonants seem to be a lot of trouble when singing but if I am to sing in solfege or learn to sing in scat, it seems inevitable. Yawning also seems to push my tongue back and cause the gagging effect (I have heard that one should 'yawn' while singing to produce more resonance and to make the sound produced brighter/sharper). Should you actually make a very slight yawn while singing or should you just open the mouth very wide? I often find that trying to visualise this makes me begin to actually yawn which is not necessarily a good thing. Also when breathing into the diaphragm, should the belly only come out a little bit or is it supposed to be a major thing? I don't have a very big belly as it happens so its a bit hard to visualise. I also try to sing along with the piano but I have a very soft voice which is hard to hear over the piano (I do not try to force it or anything but would like to know a little more about resonance and what you need to do to feel vibrations over the piano). If you learn how to sing very clearly is it still possible to sing quietly? It is just there are occasions I do not want to be heard like when it is night and don't want to wake everyone up.

Also is it necessary to learn the singing techniques just to learn how to sing in tune, thus developing a sense of pitch? Don't get me wrong I would very much like to learn how to sing and especially learn how to scat; when taking a piano solo or vibes solo or something in jazz band it would be really cool to scat along just to show off and amuse everyone else a little. I would need to learn how to be able to hear the pitches I am to play before they are played however and also be able to develop resonance so that I am actually heard.

The other thing is when sight-singing, how do you know if you are in tune without using the guidance of an instrument? It is very difficult.

Does anyone know of any good singing or scatting courses over the summer holiday. Or maybe a jazz improvisation course? This being in Birmingham, UK.

Thanks a lot.


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